JB and upcoming KLP have mostly fixed that, but the problem is that people are designing apps to Gingerbread, rather than the up to date ICS design guidelines.
maps.google.com in safari works alright, its not fantastic, its not terrible
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;37736668]JB and upcoming KLP have mostly fixed that, but the problem is that people are designing apps to Gingerbread, rather than the up to date ICS design guidelines.[/QUOTE]
Or they go off and do their own shit and make it worse than anything else.
[QUOTE=garry;37736627]The last time I used android it was terrible. Totally not smooth. Inconsistent design.[/QUOTE]
You must have used a phone where the OS isn't optimized. I have seen ranges of smoothness on different phones depending on how important that specific device is to the manufacturer or how good the manufacture is with optimizing in general.
It is a galaxy s2
[QUOTE=garry;37737122]It is a galaxy s2[/QUOTE]
That's strange, I've never had any performance issues on it.
By the way did you get the iPhone 5 garry?
The only 'smooth' Android devices at the moment are the S3 and GNex (haven't used a Nexus 7) on 4.1. Even then it's just the launcher, settings and Jelly Bean apps that are smooth. You still can't beat iOS in terms of smoothness, responsiveness etc.
Also does Siri still get its info from Wolfram?
[QUOTE=PyroCF;37737362]The only 'smooth' Android devices at the moment are the S3 and GNex (haven't used a Nexus 7) on 4.1. Even then it's just the launcher, settings and Jelly Bean apps that are smooth. You still can't beat iOS in terms of smoothness, responsiveness etc.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with the S3. My dad has one, and since first boot everything has been worse than my Nexus S. He eventually stuck a rom on it and now everything's fine but it's far from smooth,
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37735771]I don't get why people tout Flash as a great feature of Android. I have Flash installed on my Xoom - which runs an OC'd 1.6GHz Tegra 2 - and it's slow, buggy, hard to use. Watching inline videos is often jittery and cuts out after awhile or the browser just freezes, and playing flash games is impossible.
Some things just aren't mobile optimized. My car manual says I can tow things with my car, but what am I going to tow with a Honda Prelude? It's the same sort of concept.[/QUOTE]
flash lags on my core i5 pc
it just needs to go
[QUOTE=wingless;37737427]I disagree with the S3. My dad has one, and since first boot everything has been worse than my Nexus S. He eventually stuck a rom on it and now everything's fine but it's far from smooth,[/QUOTE]
I sell phones for a living and your dad should return his phone because it's not working properly. The S3 is the smoothest Android phone I've ever sold and this is the slower Qualcomm edition.
I'm an Apple fanboy, but this time it took them too long to release a new iPhone. Sinc my subscription almost ended i needed to choose a new phone and took the Galaxy S3. I don't regret it seen the iPhone 5. It's such a disssppointment compared with their previous releases. Hardware wise it's also inferior to the Galaxy S3; no HD screen, only dual core while quad core is thriving.. Sorry Apple, not this time. And IOS is still so closed, it doesn't give the iPhone's hardware it's full potential.
Safari in iOS 6 feels twice as fast as before.
Feels like i've got a 4SS now, love it.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37735771]I don't get why people tout Flash as a great feature of Android. I have Flash installed on my Xoom - which runs an OC'd 1.6GHz Tegra 2 - and it's slow, buggy, hard to use. Watching inline videos is often jittery and cuts out after awhile or the browser just freezes, and playing flash games is impossible.
Some things just aren't mobile optimized. My car manual says I can tow things with my car, but what am I going to tow with a Honda Prelude? It's the same sort of concept.[/QUOTE]
My experience with Flash was *sortof* the opposite. For the most part everything worked, and my Nexus ran circles around a Pentium 4 running Flash (granted, that's not saying a whole lot). Videos and such all played perfectly fine, although you still ran into that issue that touch input can be awkward.
Not to say adopting HTML5 video and such isn't an improvement. Its just this transitional period is going to be a pain.
[QUOTE=Drumdevil;37738242]I'm an Apple fanboy, but this time it took them too long to release a new iPhone. Sinc my subscription almost ended i needed to choose a new phone and took the Galaxy S3. I don't regret it seen the iPhone 5. It's such a disssppointment compared with their previous releases. [b]Hardware wise it's also inferior to the Galaxy S3; no HD screen, only dual core while quad core is thriving[/b].. Sorry Apple, not this time. And IOS is still so closed, it doesn't give the iPhone's hardware it's full potential.[/QUOTE]
Yah man. By the way I'm selling this EIGHT CORE AMD CPU. More cores is thriving and so it's definitely better than that quad from that other company Intel.
NO! The A6 chip has performance comparable to the Exynos 4412 in the Galaxy S III. The GPU performance is miles ahead, and it does that while being more power efficient. Most mobile apps are not designed to take advantage of four cores, it's a god damn waste when you can use more powerful cores and get comparable performance with a dual core like Qualcomm's Krait and Apple's A6.
As for the screen. Enjoy your grainy rendering and gaudy oversaturated colors. The iPhone screen is indeed not HD, because such a difference wouldn't be perceivable in normal use on a 4" panel. It does however have nearly perfect calibration much like the new iPad compared to the S3 which has a white point of 7860 degrees kelvin meaning whites are too blue, sRGB coverage of 139%(too large is visibly worse than too small), gamma at 2.38 which is too high compared to where it should be at at 2.2, and a max brightness of 224 cd/m2 which is poor and it's used to try and delay blue subpixel degredation.
I feel really bad though, because all you said about it not being HD and quad cores being better is exactly how I sell people Android phones that bring in immediate profit.
[editline]20th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Demache;37738351]My experience with Flash was *sortof* the opposite. For the most part everything worked, and my Nexus ran circles around a Pentium 4 running Flash (granted, that's not saying a whole lot). Videos and such all played perfectly fine, although you still ran into that issue that touch input can be awkward.
Not to say adopting HTML5 video and such isn't an improvement. Its just this transitional period is going to be a pain.[/QUOTE]
It'll be easier with it being gone on every platform rather than just iOS and WP7.
I love the new turn to turn GPS to maps. Very useful
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/EFBKv.jpg[/IMG]
nope.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;37738358]
It'll be easier with it being gone on every platform rather than just iOS and WP7.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I was thinking that too. Maybe now that Flash is gone, web developers will start seeing a real need to put HTML5 players on their sites, to avoid losing views from mobile devices, since they don't really have a choice.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;37736548]iOS is the only thing that really puts me off of using an iPhone, the phone build quality and exterior design is Grade A but I really can't stand how iOS Looks and feels.
I don't think Android is very good either to be honest, so I'll be giving WP8 a go.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly the sort of dilemma I have.
Both are well established, I don't exactly have the money to fork out for an iPhone and neither am I too bothered on the OS, yet I am drawn to WP8 as it looks brilliant but isn't as well established and doesn't have as much to offer as other mobile operating systems do.
I think I'll go for a WP8 phone when it comes to it, though.
WP8 looks like what WP7 should have been. I felt that WP7 was wholly underwhelming and put too much of a focus on integrating social networking.
Well the maps app sucks and the app store cant connect to itunes for some reason on top25/categories. Plus the order of the bottom tab things seems to randomly change, my updates is in the middle for some reason.
Is it me or has the Android fanboy brigade shown its true colors since the release of the iPhone 5/iOS 6? Facepunch is rampant with them right now and it's honestly disgusting how people tout entirely subjective features as being objectively better...
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37740181]Is it me or has the Android fanboy brigade shown its true colors since the release of the iPhone 5/iOS 6? Facepunch is rampant with them right now and it's honestly disgusting how people tout entirely subjective features as being objectively better...[/QUOTE]
It's been like that on Facepunch for...well forever. It's so funny to watch because some of the arguments like the one 10 posts above yours are so uninformed and badly thought out, it's laughable.
EDIT:
And honestly, a lot of Facepunch doesn't know their technology as much as they think they do, and it's really just the people in H&S who do. So it only fits that people who only think they know what they're talking about would put forth some silly statements about technology. If you look at an Apple thread in sensationalist headlines [url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1211588]it's really pathetic[/url] and most of the people actually would get their asses kicked if they argued with somebody who knew what they were talking about. But when it's discussed here[url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1209854] it's more levelheaded and objective[/url]. That's not to say people like me or anyone else who mainly hangs around here is innocent. Just take a look at the second post in that first link and you'll see what I mean. Quite hypocritical when the entire multitouch smartphone idea that Android uses was only put in after Apple did it, before that it was meant as a Blackberry competitor.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;37740223]It's been like that on Facepunch for...well forever. It's so funny to watch because some of the arguments like the one 10 posts above yours are so uninformed and badly thought out, it's laughable.[/QUOTE]
They just seem more active since the release of the new iPhone. About the only legitimate complaint I ever see raised is the skeuomorphic tendencies of the UI, but that's still entirely subjective and if you jailbreak your phone...
Anti-fanboys are 1000% worse than Fanboys imo.
[QUOTE=alien_guy;37740253]Anti-fanboys are 1000% worse than Fanboys imo.[/QUOTE]
It's just annoying that people can't see what Apple has done well. And honestly, where would Android be if Apple hasn't remained competitive?
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37740283]It's just annoying that people can't see what Apple has done well. And honestly, where would Android be if Apple hasn't remained competitive?[/QUOTE]
It would be a Blackberry style OS built to use trackpads and physical keyboards. Don't have the sources on hand but it was pictures from the Google v. Oracle trial if I remember correctly.
[QUOTE=alien_guy;37740253]Anti-fanboys are 1000% worse than Fanboys imo.[/QUOTE]
What's an anti-fanboy? Is that like a person who goes around hating on fanboys? Yah if that's it I can see where that can get annoying too.
[editline]20th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;37740334][img]http://www.embeddedflash.com/wp-content/ti_android_prototype.jpeg[/img][/QUOTE]
Thanks for that, I couldn't find it in time to throw it in my post.
I don't have very many features here. I am still on the iPhone 4.
[QUOTE=ExTek;37740554]I don't have very many features here. I am still on the iPhone 4.[/QUOTE]
Most of the left out stuff relating to maps like flyover is due to the A4's SGX 535 being not so modern anymore. Siri is more of a marketing thing but beyond that it's mostly due to hardware concerns.
It's a shame Apple can't port Siri back to the older generation iPhones, iPads, and the 4th gen iPod touch.
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;37740707]It's a shame Apple can't port Siri back to the older generation iPhones, iPads, and the 4th gen iPod touch.[/QUOTE]
I have Siri on my iPhone 4 unofficially and it takes a while to initialize but it's not exactly a slow performer
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