CIPWTTKT&GC v0X12 (v18): Makol can't Computer Very Good - Hardware & Software

I still think that the best desktop user experience I ever had was Ubuntu 9.10. All the versions after it have sucked and I've never found another setup of Gnome 2 that worked as well as that did out of the box. Windows is nice, but it just doesn't compare to Gnome for me.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;35303572]It's godlike on my laptop, though. Much better organization, and less tedious to hit.[/QUOTE] Good for you, the bloody thing doesn't even install on my laptop. "incompatible BIOS" :v:

[QUOTE=inconspicious;35303609]I agree with you about the gatekeeper bullshittery, but I suppose it keeps the inept portion of their userbase safe. My point is that Microsoft in their attempt to stay fresh and up to date have just vomited all of a pre existing [B]mobile[/B] optimized UI onto the desktop and labelled it as innovation. Now Apple are meticulously picking and choosing what is worth transferring over. I mis-worded my previous statement, they aren't doing it "properly" but better I suppose.[/QUOTE] I pretty much agree with you on all fronts, there. I just hope Gatekeeper will be like UAC, levels of security including being able to disable it.

Found out Dell didn't put one stick of RAM back in when they had my computer for repairs a couple months back. I should have checked but man was it annoying realizing that I've been working with only 2gb since January...

[QUOTE=1/4 Life;35300402][img]http://i.imgur.com/7BRNJ.jpg[/img] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/YOy9Q.jpg[/img_thumb] Depth of field, so real.[/QUOTE] So just like Compiz but for Windows?

[QUOTE=wingless;35303622]I pretty much agree with you on all fronts, there. I just hope Gatekeeper will be like UAC, levels of security including being able to disable it.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure you can get rid of it, yeah. They would be insane not to allow you to.

[QUOTE=Dr. Deeps;35303614]I still think that the best desktop user experience I ever had was Ubuntu 9.10.[/QUOTE] Windows 7 is the best experience I've had with a UI, as much as I hate to admit it. It's the epitome of the Windows UI. It's gone through so many iterations, so many damned good changes, It's learned from all previous mistakes and now is just goddamn glorious.

[QUOTE=wingless;35303622]I pretty much agree with you on all fronts, there. I just hope Gatekeeper will be like UAC, levels of security including being able to disable it.[/QUOTE] You're able to fully disable it in the current developer release, as far as I know. Especially the part about where you can install apps from. There's currently a UAC type thing in OS X Lion that launches the first time you run an app, asking if you'd like to trust it. There's a command you can run in the terminal that shuts it off, but I actually do like having it.

[QUOTE=Dr. Deeps;35303531]If there was something like Apples Magic Trackpad for windows, so you could manuever the system with swipes and gestures instead of having to move a physical mouse around, I could see it working better on a desktop or laptop system. As is, the only way it will currently work well is if they move Metro to a touch-screen only idea, or have it work similar to a Rainmeter setup and have it sitting on top of the normal desktop. Otherwise a computer is completely unusable if it has Windows 8 on it, imo.[/QUOTE]I wonder how hard it would be to make an application that would let you use a Magic Mouse in conjunction with Metro.

[QUOTE=Dr. Deeps;35303643]You're able to fully disable it in the current developer release, as far as I know. Especially the part about where you can install apps from. There's currently a UAC type thing in OS X Lion that launches the first time you run an app, asking if you'd like to trust it. There's a command you can run in the terminal that shuts it off, but I actually do like having it.[/QUOTE] Oh Apple. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80sWifG40B0[/media] I just remembered this. Oh you and your little hypocrisies. It makes me just wanna pinch your cute little cheeks and ruffle your hair. [editline]27th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Political Gamer;35303645]I wonder how hard it would be to make an application that would let you use a Magic Mouse in conjunction with Metro.[/QUOTE] That's something I'd like to see.

[QUOTE=Political Gamer;35303645]I wonder how hard it would be to make an application that would let you use a Magic Mouse in conjunction with Metro.[/QUOTE] Probably not very hard. The Apple bluetooth interface devices already work with Windows. I would assume that someone out there might be able to make a custom driver that would be able to detect swipes and finger locations on it.

I was hoping that for Windows 8, Metro would only be on touchscreen PCs (like anyone wants a 25-inch desktop touchscreen) or on laptops that would function like the ASUS Transformer. It would, by default, go to Aero when docked with the keyboard, and then to Metro when undocked. But, knowing Microsoft, experimental technology seems to be hit or miss, and this one's a miss.

[QUOTE=Political Gamer;35303645]I wonder how hard it would be to make an application that would let you use a Magic Mouse in conjunction with Metro.[/QUOTE] I don't know about you, but I'm interested in using kinect as an input device for a desktop computer. I think it really has potential when it comes to uses such as a point of sale or an information stand.

[QUOTE=Dr. Deeps;35303664]Probably not very hard. The Apple bluetooth interface devices already work with Windows. I would assume that someone out there might be able to make a custom driver that would be able to detect swipes and finger locations on it.[/QUOTE] My laptop has built in multi-touch gestures (I disabled the fuckers, I hate that shit). It's entirely possible.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;35303667]I was hoping that for Windows 8, Metro would only be on touchscreen PCs (like anyone wants a 25-inch desktop touchscreen) or on laptops that would function like the ASUS Transformer. It would, by default, go to Aero when docked with the keyboard, and then to Metro when undocked. But, knowing Microsoft, experimental technology seems to be hit or miss, and this one's a miss.[/QUOTE] That's how I originally assumed it would work as well, and to me that would be genius. I'm sorry, but I really think that at least at the way it is looking now, I will not be buying Windows 8 and will probably recommend to clients that they continue to use Windows 7, just because it's something similar to what they've worked with for years.

[QUOTE=wingless;35303678]My laptop has built in multi-touch gestures (I disabled the fuckers, I hate that shit). It's entirely possible.[/QUOTE] Eugh, my friend's old ASUS K53 had multitouch trackpad features and they were shitty, but I guess Asus isn't renowned for industry standard trackpads.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;35303667]I was hoping that for Windows 8, Metro would only be on touchscreen PCs (like anyone wants a 25-inch desktop touchscreen) or on laptops that would function like the ASUS Transformer. It would, by default, go to Aero when docked with the keyboard, and then to Metro when undocked. But, knowing Microsoft, experimental technology seems to be hit or miss, and this one's a miss.[/QUOTE] They were saying something along those lines a while back, but now with both dev and consumer previews out and everything we keep seeing based around Metro, I really doubt it.

[QUOTE=Dr. Deeps;35303664]Probably not very hard. The Apple bluetooth interface devices already work with Windows. I would assume that someone out there might be able to make a custom driver that would be able to detect swipes and finger locations on it.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;oMbiA56-2p8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMbiA56-2p8[/video]

[QUOTE=inconspicious;35303675]I don't know about you, but I'm interested in using kinect as an input device for a desktop computer. I think it really has potential when it comes to uses such as a point of sale or an information stand.[/QUOTE] So maybe to swipe through the tiles on metro you could just wave your hand around in front of your face like there's an annoying fly near you?

[QUOTE=Dr. Deeps;35303684]That's how I originally assumed it would work as well, and to me that would be genius. I'm sorry, but I really think that at least at the way it is looking now, I will not be buying Windows 8 and will probably recommend to clients that they continue to use Windows 7, just because it's something similar to what they've worked with for years.[/QUOTE] Yeah, everyone at school is pretty much the same. Windows 7 is what everyone is going to stick with here, oh the joys of working in a literate environment.

[QUOTE=Dr. Deeps;35303684]That's how I originally assumed it would work as well, and to me that would be genius. I'm sorry, but I really think that at least at the way it is looking now, I will not be buying Windows 8 and will probably recommend to clients that they continue to use Windows 7, just because it's something similar to what they've worked with for years.[/QUOTE] Yeah, it's like they were indecisive with what they wanted to do with Metro then just kind of shoved it in, saying "well it's an improvement if you can get past the fact it's a noticeable, extreme change from the old, time-tested UI that Windows has used for several years of iterations."

[QUOTE=Dr. Deeps;35303705]So maybe to swipe through the tiles on metro you could just wave your hand around in front of your face like there's an annoying fly near you?[/QUOTE] "These are not the droids you are looking for" *hand gesture* I was thinking more subtle movements like that for panning and scrolling.

[QUOTE=inconspicious;35303698][video=youtube;oMbiA56-2p8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMbiA56-2p8[/video][/QUOTE] That reminds me of another thing. The whole sidebar design, how it pushes the entire desktop in whatever direction. Windows 7 already did this perfectly without destroying desktop real estate.

[QUOTE=inconspicious;35303720]"These are not the droids you are looking for" *hand gesture* I was thinking more subtle movements like that for panning and scrolling.[/QUOTE] Oh, using Kinect technology to navigate an OS would be so entertaining. And quite an improvement over the distinctly nonexistent exercise I'm getting now

[QUOTE=Protocol7;35303735]Oh, using Kinect technology to navigate an OS would be so entertaining. And quite an improvement over the distinctly nonexistent exercise I'm getting now[/QUOTE] As I said, I think it would work excellently in an environment where you are already standing, but when I'm slobbing out in front of my PC, I think I will be giving my arms a rest with a mouse and keyboard.

Yeah, having my elbows firmly planted on a desk is nice and comfy.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;35303782]Yeah, having my elbows firmly planted on a desk is nice and comfy.[/QUOTE] On screen kinect keyboard. Typing has never been this retarded!

[QUOTE=wingless;35303729]That reminds me of another thing. The whole sidebar design, how it pushes the entire desktop in whatever direction. Windows 7 already did this perfectly without destroying desktop real estate.[/QUOTE] I ahev to say that I didn't really think that I would use it in the first case, but on a 15.6" screen, it's really nice for having a chat, a PDF reader or whatever open. 1366x768 is almost too small to actually be doing side by side work on, and the "fill 1/3 or 2/3 of the screen" works marveously with that, as you have a fast way to switch to the other app, and still be able to get the other in focus with a single click. While you could argue that it's redundant or whatever, I find it to be a smart move.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;35303811]I ahev to say that I didn't really think that I would use it in the first case, but on a 15.6" screen, it's really nice for having a chat, a PDF reader or whatever open. 1366x768 is almost too small to actually be doing side by side work on, and the "fill 1/3 or 2/3 of the screen" works marveously with that, as you have a fast way to switch to the other app, and still be able to get the other in focus with a single click. While you could argue that it's redundant or whatever, I find it to be a smart move.[/QUOTE] You could already do it with Windows 7 though, and with more customization. The only advantage it serves is being able to pop it away and back with a keystroke, which you could pretty much already do with the task bar.

[QUOTE=wingless;35303825]You could already do it with Windows 7 though, and with more customization. The only advantage it serves is being able to pop it away and back with a keystroke, which you could pretty much already do with the task bar.[/QUOTE] Not the same thing, I think there was a miscommunication somewhere.