• Router Suggestions (replacing DGL-4500 also a "Rage at D-Link" thread)
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I'm having issues with DGL-4500 and will return it soon to Newegg. D-Link currently has a firmware hell with the router and I wouldn't like to step anymore into that. I can't stand it restarting every day (at longest), I'm going to stick back to my temp router TEW-652BRP once I return it. Must features:[list] WAN must be 10/100/1000[/list][list] Rest of it also must be Gigabit for LAN.[/list][list] Wifi - B/G/N[/list][list] Band - 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz [/list][list]Large Community (for DD-WRT, OpenWRT, or Tomato later down the time).[/list] Would like:[list] Wifi - A/B/G/N[/list] [list]Detachable Antennas[/list][list] USB Port[/list][list] Usages of 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz at the same time.[/list] I was using a Belkin F5D7230-4 v1111tt for the last few years (which during that time was flashed to DD-WRT for it's last 2 or 3 years) until the WAN port died last month (thus me getting the DGL-4500).
My advice, stay clear of anything linksys, there firmware is Insanity ensued i reccomend a Dlink DIR-615
DIR-615 from what I been reading on D-Link's forums is going through a firmware hell as well now. I'm kind of want to stay away from D-Link, this currently issue with the DGL-4500 has really left sour taste in my mouth.
Netgear DGN2000
[QUOTE=ReznorT;16598286]Netgear DGN2000[/QUOTE] Have Comcast. I do have a small list I'm currently looking at: [list]TRENDnet TEW-633GR [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156226[/url][/list] [list]LINKSYS WRT610N [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124296[/url][/list] [list]D-Link D-615 Though highly unlikely.[/list] I'm more towards the TEW-633GR though the fixed Antennas really annoys me. Also this is something I plan to use for like a decade almost, my price range is 140USD. Also I will do more research but I need some more routers at least to give me a sense of idea. I loved my old Belkin since it's uptime was over a few months sometimes and at very least a month between requiring powercycles (DD-WRT v24).
Stay away from the linksys, it's nothing but trouble
Well the ratings on Newegg scare me off, just looking at some of the feature-wise, it's decent, though I'm sure that performace-wise it's all down the trash tube. I'll be back later.
I have a Linksys router, it works great.
My neighbor has a Dlink and it worked great for me until he blocked me.
[QUOTE=Lego399;16598499]I have a Linksys router, it works great.[/QUOTE] Good for you, as for me, it unstable as fuck
Just to let everyone know, I did like my DGL-4500, just it's not reliable (constant reboots, firmware hell, firmware fucked USB/sharepoint features up). Also providing models would be more helpful to me than telling of brands (models first, then brands because of their customer service is important).
The WRT54G2 I think is what I have and it's great no issues. it's not the WRT54GS which is shit.
[QUOTE=ReznorT;16598573]Good for you, as for me, it unstable as fuck[/QUOTE] Mine works pretty well too, it came to replace a fucked DI-604.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;16598726]The WRT54G2 I think is what I have and it's great no issues. it's not the WRT54GS which is shit.[/QUOTE] Had a taste of Gigabit and can't go back. Also now looking at the ZyXEL X550N, apperently this had flaky firmware at first and from what I been skimming, they actively been fixing it up right (not like D-Link). ZyOS means little support from hacking :( All Gigabit with N, but no 5Ghz Radio :( but 83USD then 58USD after rebates.
There's nothing wrong with Linksys, I've had a couple, the first one melted (my fault, not linksys'), but the second one is still going strong.
Belkin Wireless-G Plus MIMO. I have it and it's pretty good. Gets good range and is a faster alternative than Wireless-G
Netgear is terrible Linksys blows I have this one. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127215[/url] Best router ever and I love the firmware. Theres so much settings to be configured aswell and it's extremely easy to forward those pesky ports.
[QUOTE=ReznorT;16598253]My advice, stay clear of anything linksys, there firmware is Insanity ensued i reccomend a Dlink DIR-615[/QUOTE] Nothing wrong with the old WRT54G flashed with DD-WRT. Got 2 of them paired up as a wireless bridge, because I'm too lazy to pull LAN cables around my house. EDIT: this stuff [url]http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge#Instructions[/url]
I got a DIR-615 today, it works great so far.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;16605131]Netgear is terrible Linksys blows I have this one. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127215[/url] Best router ever and I love the firmware. Theres so much settings to be configured aswell and it's extremely easy to forward those pesky ports.[/QUOTE] Recent reviews shows problems :/ Firmware hell going on. Not really want to deal with that crap again. What's your average uptime on it though? Need something that can stay at least a month and have average of actually being a few months or more. [editline]04:33PM[/editline] Just shipped my DGL-4500 back D:<
Any consumer level device you get WILL have problems. The best options for consumer level shitboxes are DD-WRT compatible devices with hardware that is not absolute shit. ==== I suggest to build a low power computer with multiple Linux/BSD compatible network interfaces and install a router operating system such as pfsense. If you don't have $300-500 to spare see if you can find someone who is getting rid of an older computer (businesses) and install another network interface. You will also need a switch unless you have enough network interfaces for it, for all your devices. This will last you for many years so it's worth it. It's either that or blow away $150-200 every 2-3 years for another consumer level shitbox from a company that has you by the balls for updates because it's a closed source black box.
[QUOTE=The Pro;16610326]Any consumer level device you get WILL have problems. The best options for consumer level shitboxes are DD-WRT compatible devices with hardware that is not absolute shit. ==== I suggest to build a low power computer with multiple Linux/BSD compatible network interfaces and install a router operating system such as pfsense. If you don't have $300-500 to spare see if you can find someone who is getting rid of an older computer (businesses) and install another network interface. You will also need a switch unless you have enough network interfaces for it, for all your devices. This will last you for many years so it's worth it. It's either that or blow away $150-200 every 2-3 years for another consumer level shitbox from a company that has you by the balls for updates because it's a closed source black box.[/QUOTE] I need something small, that idea of building my own is possible but I would have to get all new parts and make sure it's low power (less than 20 watts), and that would be that problem would be size and power usage.
[QUOTE=LeYang;16611172]I need something small, that idea of building my own is possible but I would have to get all new parts and make sure it's low power (less than 20 watts), and that would be that problem would be size and power usage.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=34#j7f2sel[/url] a 1,2 ghz passive mini itx motherboard. Pair it up with a 3 port gigabit ethernet daughterboard, and a pci Wifi card supporting A/B/G/N. and throw in a pico psu with appropriate ac/dc adapter [url]http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=10[/url]
I am having a heart attack at the prices adding up so quickly already. I though there would be more Atom boards with mPCI-e slots though. [editline]07:27PM[/editline] Actually looking at parts from Newegg so I'm not having a heart attack as much. [editline]07:52PM[/editline] TRENDnet TEW-633GR ~100USD ZyXEL X550N ~60USD Currently my two main choices.
The Intel Atom is an overpriced underpowered gimmick, whats the point in paying twice as much for what amounts to a P3 800mhz, it's also a closed source black box with awful driver support and you can't remove the CPU. Think of it as how big content wants your computer to be, low speed 100% intergrated devices that you can't modify and that you don't actually own, a one way street. Mini ITX is also a gimmick for this situation because it costs a large amount of money and really limits your options and upgrade options. [QUOTE=LeYang;16611621] TRENDnet TEW-633GR ~100USD ZyXEL X550N ~60USD Currently my two main choices.[/QUOTE] 1. sucks, shitty hardware, closed source (once they stop making updates you're fucked) 2. sucks, shitty hardware, closed source (once they stop making updates you're fucked) [QUOTE=LeYang;16611172]I need something small, that idea of building my own is possible but I would have to get all new parts and make sure it's low power (less than 20 watts), and that would be that problem would be size and power usage.[/QUOTE] I don't see why users have such a problem with size and insist on the smallest computer possible even when it limits their options and upgrades. I am sure that you can fit a 3U or 4U case in your room. Just because those sub par home routers are small doesn't mean that they don't use power. If you want less then 20W power usage you will have to spend more money for specialty parts such as ATX/MATX motherboards that accept mobile CPU's. How much does power cost in your area? Add some figures to get the actual cost for running it. The idle power usage will be around 40-50W with optimal non LP desktop parts and around 90 at load. [url]http://techreport.com/articles.x/15653/12[/url] Slightly less if you have solid state storage. I'd ask a professional what parts to get when you are ready to buy. [QUOTE=Van-man;16611327][url]http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=34#j7f2sel[/url] a 1,2 ghz passive mini itx motherboard. Pair it up with a 3 port gigabit ethernet daughterboard, and a pci Wifi card supporting A/B/G/N. and throw in a pico psu with appropriate ac/dc adapter [url]http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=10[/url][/QUOTE] That jetway board is awful, the "gigabit ethernet" board can't support 1Gbps on one NIC even if you had a superior CPU to handle it's high resource usage and even theoretically you could only get 1Gbps shared to all three as it uses the PCI bus. For network interfaces you should use PCI-e as you won't have the bandwidth limitations of PCI.
[QUOTE=ReznorT;16598573]Good for you, as for me, it unstable as fuck[/QUOTE] Just because one of their routers is unstable for you doesn't mean they're shit. Don't be so naive.
[QUOTE=The Pro;16615882]The Intel Atom is an overpriced underpowered gimmick, whats the point in paying twice as much for what amounts to a P3 800mhz, it's also a closed source black box with awful driver support and you can't remove the CPU. Think of it as how big content wants your computer to be, low speed 100% intergrated devices that you can't modify and that you don't actually own, a one way street. Mini ITX is also a gimmick for this situation because it costs a large amount of money and really limits your options and upgrade options. 1. sucks, shitty hardware, closed source (once they stop making updates you're fucked) 2. sucks, shitty hardware, closed source (once they stop making updates you're fucked) I don't see why users have such a problem with size and insist on the smallest computer possible even when it limits their options and upgrades. I am sure that you can fit a 3U or 4U case in your room. Just because those sub par home routers are small doesn't mean that they don't use power. If you want less then 20W power usage you will have to spend more money for specialty parts such as ATX/MATX motherboards that accept mobile CPU's. How much does power cost in your area? Add some figures to get the actual cost for running it. The idle power usage will be around 40-50W with optimal non LP desktop parts and around 90 at load. [url]http://techreport.com/articles.x/15653/12[/url] Slightly less if you have solid state storage. I'd ask a professional what parts to get when you are ready to buy. That jetway board is awful, the "gigabit ethernet" board can't support 1Gbps on one NIC even if you had a superior CPU to handle it's high resource usage and even theoretically you could only get 1Gbps shared to all three as it uses the PCI bus. [B]For network interfaces you should use PCI-e as you won't have the bandwidth limitations of PCI[/B].[/QUOTE] You don't know what you're talking about right [editline]03:21AM[/editline] [QUOTE=JDK721v2;16615967]Just because one of their routers is unstable for you doesn't mean they're shit. Don't be so naive.[/QUOTE] It's a known problem :downs: by linksys :downs: The device crashes after 10 hours and requires a reboot if you use WPA2 or WPA [editline]03:22AM[/editline] And infact this isnt a closed case it's in every single WAG160N built
[QUOTE=ReznorT;16616035]You don't know what you're talking about right [editline]03:21AM[/editline] It's a known problem :downs: by linksys :downs: The device crashes after 10 hours and requires a reboot if you use WPA2 or WPA [editline]03:22AM[/editline] Anf infact this isnt a closed case it's in every single WAG160N built[/QUOTE] :downs: Then fix it. Don't blame them on your incompetence.
Are you retarded? There is no way of fucking "fixing it" The firmware all shit, every version, and lnksys arn't providing any cashback on the fucking thing
[QUOTE=ReznorT;16616107]Are you retarded? There is no way of fucking "fixing it" The firmware all shit, every version, and lnksys arn't providing any cashback on the fucking thing[/QUOTE] You're doing it wrong.
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