• PC Building V3 - Complain about RAM prices here
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And under no circumstances should you buy a Ryzen CPU with an X suffix, they're a scam
The 2600X is a 2600 with a 200MHz factory overclock that you can accomplish on your own in five minutes, saving you $30 ish. No reason to buy the 2600X. A 2600X and an overclocked 2600 are physically identical in every single way.
so i got all my parts today and then promptly realized the cooler i got doesn't come with thermal paste. thanks amazon 2 day shipping pls hurry
Why were you planning on using included thermal paste anyway?
With PBO2/SenseMI, it's basically worth it to just let the CPU handle its own overclocking; most people are finding this out on their own, after reporting worse results in benchmarks when doing their OCs vs just letting the CPU do its thing.
I just coincidentally stumbled across this comment on Reddit, can anybody verify how true it is? "No, get the X model of Ryzen 2000 CPUs. Unlike the 1000 series, it's worth it. The 2600X clocks far higher on XFR2 and will outperform an overclocked non-X version all the time, always. Higher boost clocks + the single-core performance boost, you can't get that with non-X because manual overclocking entirely disables XFR2. It's almost a crime to manual OC 2000 series chips due to how hands off it is, thanks to the massively improved algorithms." I'm happy to be proven wrong about my previous statement.
Just looking at Techspot: https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/1613/bench/Cinebench.png We can see the 2700x hitting a smidgen higher single-core clock (since it probably boosted the one core up to 4.3~), and a marginal lead on the overclocked part. Worth noting though, is the test used the standard box Prism cooler for the non-OC test, and a Corsair H110i v2 was used for the OC ones; suffice to say we would probably see much more even results if the same cooling solution was used on both. L1T also has a good breakdown of SenseMI and their experiences with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_rzXHRwg0
who the fuck uses stock coolers
Hey quick question: I'm about to start streaming on twitch on my days off and I'm looking to get a good webcam for it. Any recommendations?
AMD actually has pretty competent stock coolers. https://i.redd.it/5nv1zswytor01.png
i have one of those wraith spires still in the box if someone needs one for some reason imo with ryzen+ its better to pay the tiny bit extra for a X and run it stock, if you want to overclock for overclocking's sake go with intel theres way more headroom
Wraith Max (pictured) is even a little overkill for all but the R7. Meanwhile Intel's coolers are basically a complete waste of aluminum. Even their Xeon cooler can't keep load temps under 95, in my experience. Why do they even bother including them?
Hello I'm gonna bitch about RAM prices as per thread title I'd like to upgrade my CPU (currently have an i5 4440) but seeing as I'm on a LGA 1150 socket I'd have to replace the motherboard as well - and then I'd most likely have to get rid of my DDR3 memory in favor of DDR4 h-hold my hand brothers. The Ryzen CPUs are looking real good
Speaking of RAM, I'm very new to the concept of overclocking RAM. Will this motherboard be capable of OCing a DDR4-3200 kit to 3200MHz? It says it's capable of it on the box but I know that sometimes boards can't hit OC frequencies they state that they're able to.
They also don't look like they were manufactured in the 90s unlike Intel's. I mean, Intel's coolers are ok but let's face it - the main reason most people replace them with stock CPUs is because they look lame compared to the rest of a gaming PC.
Currently out of town for a conference and working remotely via my laptop. Boy do I miss having ports. Sure laptops these days are nice, but... Boy do I miss having ports. It's only been two days and I've already achieved m a x i m u m d o n g l e just connecting to ethernet at the hotel, using their TV as a monitor, reading my SD card, charging my tablet, and copying my eSSD to a few dozen hand-out flash drives. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/228820/59363be9-a3b9-4ddf-88fc-94cde6db2ce7/image.jpg (Not pictured: a 6-port USB hub and a 4-port USB hub attached via a splitter plugged into USB port 1, and two more SD cards that need reading. Send help.)
laughs in ThinkPad
To be fair this is WAY outside the scope I ever intended for it. I got it at a pretty deep discount so I just took it in as a "light productivity at home and abroad" machine. That being said, it's handling this much of a dongle-based gang-bang much better than I was expecting. Thunderbolt 3 has some insane bandwidth, I tell you.
Why not just get a TB3 add-in card?
Is TB3 supported on AMD-based systems via add-in cards?
I don't see why it wouldn't, it's basically just fancy PCIe over an external cable. As long as the card has the TB3 chip itself (to do the TB3 signaling) then it should work fine.
It really doesn't. Intel is kinda the worst.
Thunderbolt is basically the single best connection type ever created, and using the type-C connector in gen 3 has made it just about perfect, but Intel's deathgrip on it has really been stalling mainstream use of the technology. Imagine if Qualcomm took the time to adapt it to ARM. Smartphones with a TB3 connector for charging and data, that can use full-size peripherals like monitors without needing a dock.
Fuck Intel Fuck Nvidia Fuck Qualcomm
God damn it yall are saying intel's heatsink is bad because of poor looks and performance but can we take a minute to talk about these fuckers: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109874/65a9b175-0e1a-4dbe-bf3e-01d3b7ded9f4/image.png These have got to be the most mind-numbingly awful pieces of shit I've ever had the misfortune of trying to use. Those stupid tips bend or snap off like they were made from the inbred orgy of every single no-name china brand plastic supplier in the people's republic. I've YET to find 1 person (IRL anyway) who can actually install these in 1 go without fucking a corner up.
Whats the difference between these two? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-Z370-Extreme4-Motherboard-Socket/dp/B0763BS899/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1529602712&sr=1-1&keywords=ASrock+z370+extreme4 https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-Z370-Pro4-Motherboard-Socket/dp/B07639M7MY/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1529602712&sr=1-2&keywords=ASrock+z370+extreme4 Is it worth extra 50 Pounds?
If you need to ask, chances are you won't need the features. But as far as I can tell, the Extreme basically supports Nvidia SLI, and has some beefier components (probably won't make a big difference to you). A bit of a difference in PCI-E lanes, but that should be about it. Post your planned specs if you feel like it, but I'd just go with the cheaper one.
I mean it definitely could speed wise, but unlikely on latency. TB3 goes to the CPU, USB has to route through the South Bridge. You'd probably have to up the bandwidth to the SB too if you wanted to push 40gbps USB.
The Extreme 4 has reasonably better VRMs, looks like a slightly better PCIe layout, and a few other niceties (the PRO4 series doesn't have the far-right ATX screws, meaning putting the 24-pin power bends the board like crazy).
Besides bandwidth, the big thing is interrupt vs polling, afaik. TB3/PCIe interrupts the system, for USB the system has to ask the bus for updates every x ms.
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