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so you're over budget on PSU as well as mobo USB power supply get a better PSU and then a powered USB card
DHL Postage only costs £20/$26 ish and takes 2-3 days
It's not the RAM or fan, those don't take up much power at all. It's mainly the 570, which can run on 460w fine if it's a good quality unit but not a great idea on an OEM one.
Wow, no wonder why I wasn't able to overclock it, like, at all. New PSU it is then.
I'd still suggest a separate powered card you're drawing a lot of power off the motherboard to run all your USB ports
This would be an excellent option
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVDLyX Upgrading from Xeon E3-1230v3, 16GB, GTX 770. Keeping case (Fractal Define R5), power supply (650w Rosewill full modular 80+ Gold), storage (120gb boot SSD, 500GB storage SSD, 2x 1tb HDD). Going to Ryzen because value/performance. Primarily gaming machine with some video editing and other moderate workstation work.
I recommend you go with a non-matx board for Ryzen, they've historically had problems. Pretty good boards: ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s USB.. ASUS Prime X470 Also better Ryzen reliable RAM: Team Dark Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288
Huh, might not be a Define R5, my current case. It's definitely Micro ATX.
Can you recommend a good mATX board for Ryzen then?
I don't even think there are any X470 mATX boards lmao. So none. And then your best bet for Mini-ITX is probably the Asus ROG Strix x470-I. Ryzen ain't no Intel platform, very bad selection of non-ATX boards.
Shit, I guess I'll have to step up to ATX for my 2600X build then.
X370 will technically work with Ryzen 2nd gen, but to get the most out of it (PBO,XFR 2,SenseMI) you really should go X470. That ASRock SLI/AC is a pretty good board for a pretty good price. Obviously, the Asus CROSSHAIR VII HERO is the best board, but is P expensive.
Shit, I had no idea that XFR2 was only available on X470. I guess that's what I'm going with.
This is pretty much my recommended middle-tier X470 core parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rngTMZ high-tier parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gF47TB broke-af parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJfqdX Below that, you're looking at APU territory and really bad boards, basically not worth it generally.
jesus christ does anybody make a motherboard that doesn't look absolutely retarded?
no.
Sorry less stupid boards are a TR4 exclusive feature
What is it I heard that having M2 SSD disables one/two of the SATA lanes? Last night I got my shit delivered (New mobo, ram, cpu and m2 ssd). I rebuilt my PC and M2 works and 5 SATA drives work fine. Although I did have to disconnect drive from SATA #1 and connect it to #4 instead as for some reason it kept saying Not Present.
It depends on the motherboard, Intel boards especially don't have enough PCI-E lanes to dedicate to M.2 but it's much less of an issue on Ryzen. My Intel laptop can't run the second M.2 slot if the first M.2 is running in PCI-E mode but will gladly run both in SATA mode (both in addition to dual 2.5mm SATA slots). My Ryzen desktop is fine with a 960 Evo in the M.2 and all 8 SATA slots populated.
Speaking of Ryzen, a coworker of mine recently replaced his home laptop with an HP that's got the new R3 with a Vega iGPU Since when did lower-mid-end laptops become this... decent? The thing only cost him like $500 and it feels better to use than some first-gen ultrabooks.
Intel boards use a QPI-like link to simulate a PCIe x4 slot for m.2 iirc, Ryzen has the same amount of lanes going pretty much everywhere besides that.
Can anyone recommend a budget sound-card, under <$125? (Or if they're even needed.) I've been looking at the Sound Blaster Z but it seems the latest windows 10 update fucked with audio drivers and they're not going to update them. Currently using the integrated audio on a ASUS Z370-A and a pair of beyerdynamic DT 770s.
Im really contemplating if I should get a new system. I used to have a i7 920 which I swapped for a XEON X5660 about a year ago. Combined with my GTX 680 it still most games fine on medium to low settings. I kinda want to wait for the new generation of GPUs, but they could still take a while. I had a i7 8700k and a GTX 1080 build in mind. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DcPX29 Feel free to change some things up, pricewise I want to stay somewhere at around 1600€/$1800, lower is better.
5400RPM drive needs to go for sure, especially since it looks like it's your only storage option. If you're carrying over other drives from your old build (especially a SSD) then I would say only use it for media storage if you do buy it. Also, keep an eye on /r/buildapcsales. I've seen 1080 Ti's this week for the price of your 1080. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/
The listed part is a 8700, not a 8700K. The 8700 isn't overclockable, so you want to get the 8700K version if you want to overclock. If you don't care about overclocking, choose a motherboard based on the H370 chipset and keep the 8700, since the H370 chipset should be better and cheaper with the tradeoff of no overclocking. (If you want the better chipset and overclocking, see if you can find a Z390-based motherboard) The i5 is mostly identical in games. If you don't intend to do a lot of productivity tasks or streaming, i'd recommend switching to that instead. 8600K for overclocking, 8600 if you don't ever want to overclock. Do you have an SSD already? If not, i can't understate how important it is to get one as an OS drive for your next build. The difference between a HDD and a SSD for your OS is night-and-day, and probably the biggest computer upgrade you've been able to get for the last 5-6 years. If you can find the Kingston Fury X for a reasonable price in Germany, it's still one of the cheapest SSDs that don't sacrifice quality. The MX500 is also an excellent drive. (2,5" and M.2). Otherwise, just ask if you find one and we should be able to tell you about it.
i7 8700 being in there was a mistake, fixed it. I do not want to overclock right now but I want to hold that option open for the future, who knows. Right now I dont need it and frankly im a little scared to do it. Z390 is yet to come and I will look into it if its there when I will finally decide to pull the trigger. From what I´ve read it does has its advantages over Z370, main one it being made for Coffee Lake and not just rushed out like Z370 to be able to compete against AMD. Other features like WIFI and improved audio are not really necessary for me since I will get fitting cards if I need it. Sidenote: I dont really know much about chipsets and im just reading into it right now. It always seemed to my that there are only a few minor changes from chipset to chipset which apparently is not the case. I do own a Kingston SSD which im quite pleased with. I agree that its probably the best upgrade you can have for your money. Biggest concern still is the new lineup of Nvidia GPUs. Rumor now has it that August will be the release date, but until aftermarket cards are available for an acceptable price could take a while. If the numbers were available right now of how much better they will be I could make a decision right now - but they arent.
That's always an issue buying hardware. For what it's worth, it's very likely that the cards will be out in august since Nvidia will be talking about them at Hot Chips in august, which is usually a post-release engineering tech talk. One thing to mention is that if you buy an EVGA GPU, you can exchange it for a better one if a new one gets released within 90 days of your purchase. The cool thing about this is that you're guaranteed MSRP on the card you're exchanging to, which i've personally used to exchange an overpriced 970 to a 1080 while the 1080 had a massive launch overprice. I paid barely 125ish€ to upgrade an emergency purchase GPU to a really good GPU while it had a 3-400€ price difference in my country It's still a risk, since the aftermarket parts usually release a month past the stock cooled cards and the launch date isn't confirmed, but if you're itching for an upgrade it's a path you could take.
That is pretty cool, I will look into EVGA Cards then. My only deadline right now is the release of Forza Horizon 4, which is on the 2nd of October 2018 so it seems like I still got some time to decide.
You're really not going to see crazy increases over Intel chips in a while I think. They're 10nm production has been an actual disaster for them with it potentially not being marketable for years. They've been on the same shit for years and the only major difference is when they suddenly bumped core count after Ryzen launched.
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