Oh ok that makes sense I guess. What about [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005531"]this [/URL]23" or [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288"]this[/URL]?
[QUOTE=Lilyo;44035427]Oh ok that makes sense I guess. What about this 23"? [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005531[/url][/QUOTE]
Seems nice. I'd try to find some reviews but if there isn't anything overwhelmingly negative then go for it. Plus it has the eco thing mine has which I have turned off so it tells me that I've saved 0 trees every time I turn it on and I think that's pretty amusing.
I think I might go with this one? Seems to be the same but with actual reviews and a bit cheaper. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288[/url]. And you even get a free screen clear wow what a deal
[QUOTE=Lilyo;44035612]I think I might go with this one? Seems to be the same but with actual reviews and a bit cheaper. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288[/url]. And you even get a free screen clear wow what a deal[/QUOTE]
Asus is pretty great too I know a bunch of people with monitors and laptops from them and I haven't heard a single complaint.
[QUOTE=Lilyo;44035064]Ugh I just saw [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236103"]this[/URL] for $230... 27", 2ms, 0.31 PP, TFT panel. Wish I was a bit less poor.
And how are VA monitors better than IPS? VA is an older technology, they're barely produced anymore + they're closer to TN than IPS, in terms of both color and reliability.[/QUOTE]
No technology is better than another for color, you could produce an 8bit TN with 100% sRGB coverage and a dE<1 if you really wanted to and it's perfectly possible to calibrate one to at least have the latter 2 attributes although you're going to get terrible banding with a full sRGB monitor that only does 6bit + AFRC. I've already explained why a VA is generally better than an eIPS but it's clear nobody is interested in reading or deviating from the falsehood of "IPS=best color" which really isn't true because IPS means nothing more than good viewing angles and any other benefits are just a result of how much you pay to get calibration and 8/10bit panels for better gradation across those large gamuts. I've already stated, any cheap panel is going to have a similar narrow gamut so at least with a VA you get good gradation that you don't get with eIPS or TN, that's why it's better.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;44034969]What are you talking about? You just linked an ASUS TN while calling a VA panel garbage. Every monitor you're linking is an eIPS or a TN, they're all inferior panels.
No it isn't. Again I state my disbelief and ask, what are you talking about? One of the huge appeals of VA panels is substantially better black levels than anything TN or IPS offers because the contrast is so much better. We're not discussing dynamic contrast here, the difference between 5000:1 and 800:1 static contrast ratios is huge.
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Anything is going to look different at home if it's not a calibrated monitor. You're apparently used to a 2560x1440 display with full 8bit per channel color and a 100% sRGB gamut. It's not near as simple as just buying an IPS and being done with it, cheap IPS panels, VA panels, and TN panels all are going to have narrow color gamuts, large errors in color rendering, and possibly gradation issues.
This thread is way offtopic, the OP hasn't responded and now we're getting crazy recommendations from posters who call decent monitors garbage and think garbage monitors are good. Good luck to the OP if he's even checking this thread anymore.[/QUOTE]sorry, but instead of going off on me, perhaps be nicer about it and just say incorrect, I still don't believe you can really tell a difference in contrast ratios, but i'd have to see in person.
i don't believe that all VA panels are superior to TN or IPS, from quick research about them they aren't best for gaming because ghosting can occur in dark scenes and games, again ill look more into them. they are like the halfway point of TN and IPS, seems they have better color production, and viewing angles with the best brightness too.
[QUOTE=ClaBrendon;44036823]sorry, but instead of going off on me, perhaps be nicer about it and just say incorrect, I still don't believe you can really tell a difference in contrast ratios, but i'd have to see in person.
i don't believe that all VA panels are superior to TN or IPS, from quick research about them they aren't best for gaming because ghosting can occur in dark scenes and games, again ill look more into them. they are like the halfway point of TN and IPS, seems they have better color production, and viewing angles with the best brightness too.[/QUOTE]
You immediately labelled my suggestion as garbage when apparently you actually don't know that much at all about displays given your suggestion and how you're having to do research after the fact. You're not going to get any sympathy from me when I was literally in disbelief at your post being blunt and quite frankly wrong.
Not all VA panels are superior because cPVA panels and the like are 6bit + AFRC too so they're to be avoided but any good VA is going to give the best image performance in the low end range of monitors. Ghosting isn't really an issue, MVA and PVA panels with overdrive effectively alleviated those issues some time ago.
Also yes, the contrast ratio difference is visible and significant. A black level of 0.05cd/m^2 compared to something like 0.35cd/m^2 at max brightness is a HUGE difference. The latter looks grey in comparison. IPS panels approach the black levels of a VA at 250cd/m^2 of brightness when they're at their lowest brightness of like 80cd/m^2.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;44036889]You immediately labelled my suggestion as garbage when apparently you actually don't know that much at all about displays given your suggestion and how you're having to do research after the fact. You're not going to get any sympathy from me when I was literally in disbelief at your post being blunt and quite frankly wrong.
[/QUOTE] quite frankly at least i own up my incorrect shit and admit i was wrong, yet you continue to be a dick, I don't get why you can't be mature and understand an apology when it's given.
i can just not do any research and continue to be a dumbass, and say I know things when I don't i mean this is after all, facepunch.
and hence I labeled it as garbage because I didn't know much about VA since it's a rare thing apparently. which If i knew about it's abilities then obviously i wouldn't have said shit
I just wanted to say I bought [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236335"]this[/URL] monitor for $135 cause they just had a big sale apparently out of nowhere and I happened to stumble upon it.
If you can still find them, the VG23AH by Asus was a crazy good monitor many didn't/don't know about. Has great colors, IPS technology, semi-glossy coating, and they overclocked to 105hz! It was the best budget panel no one ever knew about. The only downside was the pwm flicker if you're sensitive to it.
This BenQ monitor is pretty sweet. I'll be getting another one soon.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;44060746]This BenQ monitor is pretty sweet. I'll be getting another one soon.[/QUOTE]
which one did you get? i'd be interested to see.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;44004051]I owned [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014329]one of these[/url] in the past before I upgraded and it was a great panel for the price point.[/QUOTE]
This one. :)
Sorry for the late bump, but i've narrowed down a Benq i was interested in
specificially [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014300"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014300[/URL]
BenQ GW2750HM
Only issues i read of are a slow wakeup and bad default color settings. Was hoping to get a second opinion. I'm aiming for around $200 and decent resolution
1920x1080 at 27" is awful. Absolutely no reason to go above 23-24" at 1080p. You end up shelling out an extra $100 and what you get for it is a blurrier display.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;44345212]1920x1080 at 27" is awful. Absolutely no reason to go above 23-24" at 1080p. You end up shelling out an extra $100 and what you get for it is a blurrier display.[/QUOTE]
so i should stick with the [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014329"]one wauterboi got[/URL]? I have a bigger budget and was hoping for HDMI support without needing to pick up another cable so i figure look at some others aswell
Although if i got that i could probably get two instead, but i'd have to get a HDMI to DVI cable as well as an extra cable for the 2nd
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