it's funny because people keep saying stuff like "linux owns!!! apple sucks!! take a hint apple"
then when they do that they all go "WOW STOLEN IDEAS JERKS"
fuck right off they can do whatever they want.
[QUOTE=Captain Proton;25670706]it's funny because people keep saying stuff like "linux owns!!! apple sucks!! take a hint apple"
then when they do that they all go "WOW STOLEN IDEAS JERKS"
fuck right off they can do whatever they want.[/QUOTE]
I'm not that big of a Linux Elitist, but I like and love all Operating systems with equal share. (Each gets 33% of my heart :v:)
[QUOTE=Sinclair;25669701]To be honest, Longhorn looked better than Vista. I think Microsoft just scrapped it because people didn't have high-end graphics cards (For example, Dell Latitudes)[/QUOTE]
It was scrapped because of the mess that was the developing process. In LH build tags you'll see Lab01-Lab07. Since each group was working on a certain part it was hard to be in sync when all the code was sent to winmain for a general compile.
Also that UI didn't have high resource needs. It's about the same today as it was then. WPF doesn't have that high of a demand and neither does DWM's pixel shaders.
Apple didn't have the first portable Mp3 style music player but their implantation of the technology and ideas took the basic idea and made it insanely practical and useful. I see these features as the same thing.
[QUOTE=toaster468;25667494][list]
[*]Security
[*]Stability
[*]User Customization
[*]Portability
[/list]
The list goes on and on.[/QUOTE]
None of those are features.
Also, none of them are categories of features in which Linux has ever innovated anything for the end-user, unless you're talking about professional server admins, in which case there might be a thing or two in security that Linux's ecosystem came up with first.
But since you just threw a bullet list of irrelevant traits at me, I'm going to assume that you have no idea what you're talking about, just like all the people that rated the OP "agree".
[editline]27th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25665717]So you confirm that you like beaver?[/QUOTE]
Bieber is more successful, richer, and gets more ass than you ever will.
umadbro?
[QUOTE=mrcsb;25672339]But since you just threw a bullet list of irrelevant traits at me, I'm going to assume that you have no idea what you're talking about, just like all the people that rated the OP "agree".[/QUOTE]
We do know what we are talking about. And we rated the OP agree because it DOES look similar, therefore, a rip off.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;25663057]nt is on version 7 :eng101:[/QUOTE]
That's strange... why was NT 4.0 the first NT most people know of? I've never seen NT 3.x or below... :/
[editline]26th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ajacks;25671956]Apple didn't have the first portable Mp3 style music player but their implantation of the technology and ideas took the basic idea and made it insanely practical and useful. I see these features as the same thing.[/QUOTE]
I don't. I see it as dumbing down the PC even further to cater to today's ever-growing computer illiterate crowd. If you can't figure out the most common basics of a computer like navigating an already dumbed-down, candy-coated OS like OS X, then you have no right using one.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;25670142][img_thumb]http://images.appleinsider.com/leopard-preview-desktop-3.jpg[/img_thumb]
Xerox Alto (1973) This was what started it all, this invented the Mouse and Desktop, and Apple stole it (1979), then Microsoft (1982-1984, from the Macintosh by Apple).[/QUOTE]
apple paid xerox to use the GUI, microsoft didn't.
how are they "dumbing down" os x? you need to press a button to access launch pad, even then it just opens an app in os x's regular GUI. it's just a quicker way to launch apps without filling your dock.
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;25674026]That's strange... why was NT 4.0 the first NT most people know of? I've never seen NT 3.x or below... :/
[editline]26th October 2010[/editline]
I don't. I see it as dumbing down the PC even further to cater to today's ever-growing computer illiterate crowd. If you can't figure out the most common basics of a computer like navigating an already dumbed-down, candy-coated OS like OS X, then you have no right using one.[/QUOTE]
You're just now figuring out that Mac's whole platform is making computers ultra-simplistic to appeal to people who have no clue what they're doing on a computer?
I do general computer help, hardware and networking help, that kind of stuff, and half my clients own Macs, and those are the clients that call me saying "IF I HAVE TO BUY A NEW COMPUTER THATS OK I UNDERSTAND" when they're having trouble burning files to a disc.
[QUOTE=ifaux;25674300]apple paid xerox to use the GUI, microsoft didn't.
how are they "dumbing down" os x? you need to press a button to access launch pad, even then it just opens an app in os x's regular GUI. it's just a quicker way to launch apps without filling your dock.[/QUOTE]
Its all starting to look like iOS
the only thing i see that looks like iOS is Launchpad, something you don't even have to use
plus I somewhat like iOS, it's clean and neat.
Thing to consider is that we aren't their demographic, clearly. They are major in two markets, the teenager hipster etc, and the multimedia industry.
I bet Apple will make a MSPaint copy and sell it for .99 on the Mac App Store.
Why? You can get Pixelmator
Or GIMP.
I must be the odd man out because I don't think streamlining is "dumbing down". If a feature makes it easier to navigate or access a commonly used program what is the problem? For me there is no honor or respect gained because you know the program directory or the intricacies of your OS, it's what you do with the application once it's opened. If I can cut the lag time in navigating an OS by using a time efficient feature, I will.
I view OSX as a working OS. It isn't a hobby OS, you don't have to spend an obscene amount of time solving errors, navigating a clunky UI. You don't have to spend time configuring drivers and getting things to work, they just do. Gets you working faster and more efficient when you don't have to dick around with the rest of it. This is coming from someone who pretty much solely uses Windows for work.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;25670142][img_thumb]http://images.appleinsider.com/leopard-preview-desktop-3.jpg[/img_thumb]
Xerox Alto (1973) This was what started it all, this invented the Mouse and Desktop, and Apple stole it (1979), then Microsoft (1982-1984, from the Macintosh by Apple).[/QUOTE]
Didn't Xerox sold the idea to Apple and they both made millions?
[QUOTE=codenamecueball;25680626]Why? You can get Pixelmator[/QUOTE]
Will that stop Apple though? Doubt it, and people would buy it as "It's Apple so it's PERFECT"
[QUOTE=dude2193;25677521]Thing to consider is that we aren't their demographic, clearly. They are major in two markets, the teenager hipster etc, and the multimedia industry.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, its like the hate for Alienware. They make good products but abuse the price tag because their main demographic doesnt know any better.
Personally, I like Mac's, they look nice and they're big and eloquent and simple, but I'm never going to buy one because they're insanely overpriced.
I wish I had that picture of the "Create your Mac" page where 1GB of RAM costs $200.00
[editline]27th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ajacks;25682610]I must be the odd man out because I don't think streamlining is "dumbing down". If a feature makes it easier to navigate or access a commonly used program what is the problem? For me there is no honor or respect gained because you know the program directory or the intricacies of your OS, it's what you do with the application once it's opened. If I can cut the lag time in navigating an OS by using a time efficient feature, I will.
I view OSX as a working OS. It isn't a hobby OS, you don't have to spend an obscene amount of time solving errors, navigating a clunky UI. You don't have to spend time configuring drivers and getting things to work, they just do. Gets you working faster and more efficient when you don't have to dick around with the rest of it. This is coming from someone who pretty much solely uses Windows for work.[/QUOTE]
Yeah thats the sad truth about Mac's a lot of people don't want to admit. I think the main outrage is coming from people who,
A. Are angry about the huge price tag
B. Are angry about Apple "stealing" Unix and selling it commercially, though as we've already seen in this thread, it wasn't as bold faced as selling Ubuntu laptops for $4000 a pop.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;25682610]I must be the odd man out because I don't think streamlining is "dumbing down". If a feature makes it easier to navigate or access a commonly used program what is the problem? For me there is no honor or respect gained because you know the program directory or the intricacies of your OS, it's what you do with the application once it's opened. If I can cut the lag time in navigating an OS by using a time efficient feature, I will.
I view OSX as a working OS. It isn't a hobby OS, you don't have to spend an obscene amount of time solving errors, navigating a clunky UI. You don't have to spend time configuring drivers and getting things to work, they just do. Gets you working faster and more efficient when you don't have to dick around with the rest of it. This is coming from someone who pretty much solely uses Windows for work.[/QUOTE]
I'm all ok with this. But I'm scared shitless that the next two system upgrades (lion and 10.8) will move the system more towards the ipad in the negative sense... as in a closed system where they control everything you are allowed access to. This is my nightmare, especially when their user base is growing. The dystopian sci-fi film always have closed platforms managing everything.
Call me loony, But i'm scared shitless of closed computer platforms where the little guy can't get anything in unless it's first party or endorsed by the first party. It's the same nightmare i've got with digital distribution. i can't grap and hold it, then it isn't mine.
I fear the day when i buy things just to discover that i'm just renting.
/more paranoia
But i'm all for simple and comprehendable systems, just like you. I can comprehend and manage using Terminal and Commandprompt... but i really won't bother if i can do it simpler.
How many times has Windows ripped Windows?
[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;25683923]How many times has Windows ripped Windows?[/QUOTE]
100% of Windows is ripped from Windows. Those fucking M$ thieves.
[QUOTE=Sinclair;25672382]We do know what we are talking about. And we rated the OP agree because it DOES look similar, therefore, a rip off.[/QUOTE]
LOL, you missed the part where Apple did all of those things before a shitty OS made by neckbeards for aspies did.
i know youre all just sour that mommy doesnt have enough money to buy you a mac, so you instead try to claim osx is a shit OS, when really it has taken the best of windows and linux and combined it into one fantastic package that's really worth its price point. flame me if you want, but let it be known that i actually own a brand new imac with snow leopard, and coming from a 4+ year old gaming pc, it's safe for me to say that i spent my hard earned dollars quite well. talk when you've actually owned a mac, and not with your quasi-intellectual opinions.
[QUOTE=Sinclair;25672382]We do know what we are talking about. And we rated the OP agree because it DOES look similar, therefore, a rip off.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious? How long ago did you throw away all logical thought?
NONE of those are rip-offs. Most of those features are brand new things to Ubuntu. Apple had pretty much all those features already on their iPad and devices. All they're doing is bringing those features to OS X.
Seriously, look through the fucking article and do your research. To think Apple ripped off those features is idiotic and only a fool and blind Apple hater would believe it.
Newsflash... iOS is a crippled, watered-down version of OS X. We don't need to integrate iOS features into OS X.That's like Microsoft adding Windows CE features to Windows 7. Not useful...
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;25696235]Newsflash... iOS is a crippled, watered-down version of OS X. We don't need to integrate iOS features into OS X.That's like Microsoft adding Windows CE features to Windows 7. Not useful...[/QUOTE]
Newsflash... your post is completely irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Pixel Heart;25696235]Newsflash... iOS is a crippled, watered-down version of OS X. We don't need to integrate iOS features into OS X.That's like Microsoft adding Windows CE features to Windows 7. Not useful...[/QUOTE]
newsflash. no it's not.
On my ipad I can make spreadsheets, type documents, and make presentations, and port them all directly to microsoft word, excel, or powerpoint, as well as print wirelessly (within the month), browse the internet, and have any and all apps on the app store, watch movies, listen to music, store photos, check email, multi task, etc etc. It's not a bad operating system, and certainly not bad at all for the types of devices it's made for. Not only that but it's so simple and organized. Making an OS simpler and more user friendly isn't bad, unless you're a turbonerd that needs to feel like opening up the task manager and ending a process makes you super cool.
the fact of the matter is iOS brings a great user experience, and there's nothing wrong with that. At this point all I can expect from you is "android is better for a mobile OS" and well let me clear up anything you may be confused by so I don't have to read your dumb posts again. I like android OS as well, I think it's great, there's nothing really wrong with it.
Every OS windows is made more user friendly and better looking to the eye. mac OS is doing just that and they get flak for it because it's people like you that can't stand change. the sooner you can realize that the only constant of technology is change the better. So by all means go ahead and stop updating because you brain can't handle figuring out new things while the rest of the world moves on to a better user experience.
[editline]27th October 2010[/editline]
and as for being a bit too closed off and not open source enough, I understand the complaints, that doesn't quite jive too well in the pc community (for me included, I would prefer a bit less restriction in apples app store myself, however it is theirs, they [i]can[/i] do what they want), but claiming that iOS doesn't bring any good things with it is simply asinine.
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