Microsoft Security Essentials released! And it's still good!
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[QUOTE=Nevermind_;17787951]Novice computer users often say software/games/hardware are bad because they are not tech savvy enough to operate it.[/QUOTE]
[I]Norton was never great.[/I]
[QUOTE=Nevermind_;17766275]Incorrect, the 2008/9 versions were pretty bomb. I switched from Nod 32 and until the 2010 version came out, I never thought of going back. All of the Anti-Norton crowd most likely have never used the 2008 or 2009 Antivirus product (and not that POS Norton 360). I'll probably switch to something else once my subscription runs out in 52 days. The 2010 product is not good.[/QUOTE]
Norton 2008 was horrible.
[i]Horrible.[/i]
2009 was ok, had some nice features, but not worth $50.
Not buying 2010. Or any other AV from now on, free is better.
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[QUOTE=Nevermind_;17787951]Novice computer users often say software/games/hardware are bad because they are not tech savvy enough to operate it.[/QUOTE]
Norton isn't made for tech savvy people.
[QUOTE=Roast Beast;17788521]Norton 2008 was horrible.
[i]Horrible.[/i]
2009 was ok, had some nice features, but not worth $50.
Not buying 2010. Or any other AV from now on, free is better.
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Norton isn't made for tech savvy people.[/QUOTE]There are many different levels of technical ability. Some people can not figure out that if autoplay is broken, their CD/DVD drive still works and the disk actually [i]is[/i] good. I was putting PandaX into that category because of his trolling. Also, 2009 costs $20, not $50, though if Microsoft Security Essentials lives up to the hype, will still be too much.
[QUOTE=Nevermind_;17790638]Also, 2009 costs $20, not $50[/QUOTE]
Oh is that NAV? I was thinking of NIS.
[QUOTE=Roast Beast;17792465]Oh is that NAV? I was thinking of NIS.[/QUOTE]yeah NIS has quite a bit higher memory usage and N360 is just nightmarish. I only liked NAV - it was a complete polar opposite of everything else they offer.
I know this thread is somewhat old but I didn't want to make a new thread.
Do people still recommend this?
I'm using Avira and Avira sometimes acts stupid like not wanting to update properly.
Is it worth downloading if switching from Avira?
Never used Avira so I dunno how good it is, but I'm still using MSE and I'm perfectly happy with it. At any rate it is free so if you don't mind the hassle of uninstalling one AV and putting on another etc etc you can always give it a go
Okay. Thanks, Egg.
[QUOTE=Nevermind_;17790638]There are many different levels of technical ability. Some people can not figure out that if autoplay is broken, their CD/DVD drive still works and the disk actually [i]is[/i] good. I was putting PandaX into that category because of his trolling. Also, 2009 costs $20, not $50, though if Microsoft Security Essentials lives up to the hype, will still be too much.[/QUOTE]
[b]Norton was never great.[/b]
Panda probably didn't elaborate because no real elaboration is necessary. Norton products are underwhelming and bloated, and free anti virus software like Avast are good enough.
I didn't form that opinion on Norton 360 or Norton 2008. I've used Norton since the 2002 version. Of course, I guess I can't pass judgment on some of the later editions, but I'd be willing to take the majority viewpoint that Norton's still crap based on my own experience and what others have said. And the reason I haven't used them in late years is because a combination of common sense and rudimentary free anti-malware software is enough for me.
I don't think I'll end up using this. Why not use software from a company that dedicates all/most of their resources/time to their product, what I'm saying is, an AV program is not going to turn into Microsofts priority, they got a lot going down, I'm not arguing that interface isn't nice, and that so far it isn't effective, but I doubt that will last. Its logical that products like NOD32/Avira, etc would be superior, due to those products being the main/large focus of their development companies.
Norton has always been and continues to be a one way ticket to a crippled computer. So screw detection rates and all that when the software prevents itself from being useful.
One of the things I like about Microsoft is that despite bending over to EU and Apple and everyone else who thinks they have some sort of say on what kind of OS Windows should be because of antitrust laws, occasionally they will stand up and slap them right back in the face and say "No! Fuck you, this is how it's supposed to be!"
And for that they will have my eternal loyalty and then they can rape me all they want with overpriced extortion schemes and [url=www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/]shitty marketing gimmicks[/url].
To be fair, AV is a patchwork solution to adress security problems in the OS. As long as those problems exists there should indeed be an open market for AV. Though I don't mind bundling, the only reason it is effective is because of clueless users who don't know how to replace it. And if on top it's a kickass piece of software there really should be no problem. It's still a user choice to keep it rather than replacing it. For many Firefox will instantly replace IE. The ones that don't make a choice between the options are also the ones who don't know IE7 is out.
Addendum: I don't think those problems really exist anymore. I run without security. And the occasional scan reveals nothing.
I've been using this for a little while now, either it works perfectly or I haven't come across any threats.
I haven't really red the thread, but is this good enough to use alone?
[QUOTE=Facepunch her;19427203]I haven't really red the thread[/QUOTE]
Then I suggest you re(a)d the fucking thread then.
Doesn't it go: read red red?
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Ill try this anyway.
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I'm happier with my Avast.
[img]http://www.1337upload.net/files/imhappywithmyavastkthanks.png[/img]
If someone proofs this more secure, I might start using it.
MSE bugging me to send files off to SpyNet is starting to annoy me a little...
When I went to my friend's house to play LAN GMod with him, I brought my laptop running MSE. I plugged in my flash drive to transfer some addons and got a warning that Conficker C had tried to install itself on my computer. I realized that my flash drive must have been infected when I plugged it into my school's network, and had MSE quickly clean off the drive. Several times later it found and deleted Confickers B and C before destroying it for the final time. I haven't found it since, so MSE must be doing a good job.
I like this antivirus a lot.
[QUOTE=GetOutOfBox;18422783]I don't think I'll end up using this. Why not use software from a company that dedicates all/most of their resources/time to their product, etc.[/QUOTE]
Because of all the antivirus products that I have tried MSSE is the only one that is free, discrete, doesn't slow my computer to a crawl, is configurable, and considerably effective.
And since it's made by Microsoft I tend to think that it will cooperate better with Windows. A lot of antivirus programs feel like they're fighting with your OS from the way the wrest control from the user and don't allow you to choose how they deal with viruses.
[i]Anyway...[/i]
My only teeny tiny complaint with MSSE is that it can be a little annoying when it asks you if you want to submit a program for their heuristics algorithm, but I guess that at least shows its working. And that's only happened like once or twice so far.
I've been able to get 1 year NOD32 licenses for $9 on NCIX (The disk is version three but the code works on 4), when they stop having these sales (if ever) I'll check out MSE.
Or I'll just buy 20 of those next time the sale pops up.
[QUOTE=Facepunch her;19430811]Doesn't it go: read red red?
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Ill try this anyway.
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I'm happier with my Avast.
[img]http://www.1337upload.net/files/imhappywithmyavastkthanks.png[/img]
If someone proofs this more secure, I might start using it.[/QUOTE]
Feh, MSE is about as good as Avast. Don't change if you don't want to. Also, Read (As in 'I read the book) sounds and is spelt the same as Read (As in 'I'm going to read the book'), but is in fact a different tense.
MSE got a much, much, much better interface than Avast.
Avast's interface is fucking shit.
Sense when have you judged anti-virus by it's GUI?
I will give it a shot. Looks pretty neat.
I've been using MSE even seen it was released and it's great, I guess. It always detects and removes viruses from the USB I connect (school...) and I didn't really have any virus problem (not that ever had any virus problems since Kazaa or iMesh)
[QUOTE=Facepunch her;19450478]Sense when have you judged anti-virus by it's GUI?[/QUOTE]
It helps on user friendlyness.
Wow, it's actually really good. Very user friendly GUI, and very lightweight.
It would be very good for shitty netbooks.
Sorry to bump an old thread again, but I noticed something curious about MSE while virus scanning my OC tonight. The memory usage ramps up in a linear fashion, then arbitrarily drops off to nothing again
[img]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/d11a00msememusage.png[/img]
You can't see it that well, but it's the blue line behind the red line of my processor. I watched it do this for a few minutes, and at one point it actually hit 4096MB used before dropping back off to normal levels. I would have said it was just decompressing files or something, but it seemed to do it in such a repeated way it threw me for a bit
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The file name in the virus scanner is irrelevant
[QUOTE=Dr Egg;19864848]Sorry to bump an old thread again, but I noticed something curious about MSE while virus scanning my OC tonight. The memory usage ramps up in a linear fashion, then arbitrarily drops off to nothing again
You can't see it that well, but it's the blue line behind the red line of my processor. I watched it do this for a few minutes, and at one point it actually hit 4096MB used before dropping back off to normal levels. I would have said it was just decompressing files or something, but it seemed to do it in such a repeated way it threw me for a bit
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The file name in the virus scanner is irrelevant[/QUOTE]
This might be irrelevant since that's an active scan, but MSSE's realtime protection used to rape my computer's performance until I told it to ignore μtorrent.
I use it and I love it. So much better, IMO than Avira (which was what I had been using). I would recommend it to anyone and everyone that has Windows.
[QUOTE=Dr Egg;19864848]The file name in the virus scanner is irrelevant[/QUOTE]
Oh really? :smug:
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