[QUOTE=Squad;22838893]Strength: Advertising to a specific market.
Weakness: Inconsiderate business model. Release a new model every 6 months with 1 new feature to make people keep spending money. Instead of releasing a new device that solves several issues or requests and let it run for a bit.[/QUOTE]
Every six months?
One new feature?
You're hopeless.
Make it a few new features, and most people will agree.
And Dr Egg, it's only called the iPhone 4, not 4G, because it doesn't got 4G.
^It was a typo and i meant 3G. Should have been obvious given the previous posts and how i said there was no multitasking or wallpapapers
[QUOTE=Dr Egg;22838130]Apple is about the user experience. Just because you know what you are doing doesn't mean everyone does, [/QUOTE]
I think that confirms the stereotype that Apple is for people who know nothing about technology, and that buy their products because they have a the fantastic flavor of the month feature.
Get out if you're just going to call us all illiterate then.
[QUOTE=Destroyertf;22856142]I think that confirms the stereotype that Apple is for people who know nothing about technology, and that buy their products because they have a the fantastic flavor of the month feature.[/QUOTE]
It confirms people buy Apple products because the product is worth it for them. I know fine well about the various restrictions Apple is using on the App Store, and the slightly behind the curve hardware, but the user experience is unparalleled and so it is worth it.
I prefer iPhones now because of the user experience. Very easy, simple, does everything I want it to do, and ultimately I could not ask for anything else now that the iPhone 4 has arrived
Whether you think OS X is a pro or a con is a matter of opinion, not fact.
Pros: ......
Cons: Over Rated, Over Priced, Over Hyped, Fanboys, Steve Jobbs (that man is a douche)
[QUOTE=SSBMX;22914999]Pros: ......
Cons: Over Rated, Over Priced, Over Hyped, [b]Fanboys[/b], Steve Jobbs (that man is a douche)[/QUOTE]
This is rather ironic. :eng101:
I am talking about how ignorant they are.
"Hurr Macs don't get viruses"
Yea if they were as popular as PC's they would. Furthermore people who get viruses are just stupid.
[QUOTE=SSBMX;22915077]I am talking about how ignorant they are.
"Hurr Macs don't get viruses"
Yea if they were as popular as PC's they would. Furthermore people who get viruses are just stupid.[/QUOTE]
Maybe this thread wasn't made for your kind of people.
[QUOTE=SSBMX;22915077]I am talking about how ignorant they are.
"Hurr Macs don't get viruses"
Yea if they were as popular as PC's they would. Furthermore people who get viruses are just stupid.[/QUOTE]
AFAIK, you need to explicitly give permission for a virus to be 'installed' as it were.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;22916266]Maybe this thread wasn't made for your kind of people.[/QUOTE]
Yes, people who have some negative opinion about apple should leave this thread
Yeah, because Apple obviously don't have weakknesses.. I may aswell give up and convert to Apple.
:bow:
[QUOTE=SSBMX;22914999]Pros: ......
Cons: Over Rated, Over Priced, Over Hyped, Fanboys, Steve Jobbs (that man is a douche)[/QUOTE]
All of those are matter of opinion.
Pricing is not really an opinion. A Mac Pro with half the RAM, half the HDD size, a core 2 duo for the same price as a pc laptop with a bigger screen and a core i7. Those are facts
Pros: Advertising, and Marketing.
Cons: Price.
Quality + design = high pricing
When you talk about the price you only compare specs and numbers, there is more to it than specs.
so if I polish a $500 PC and make it shiny it will be worth $2000?
[QUOTE=SSBMX;22939911]so if I polish a $500 PC and make it shiny it will be worth $2000?[/QUOTE]
Let's see how good you can make products
Oh here we go again with that thing "Apple uses quality parts, your PC doesn't" ROFL!" (Said like a fanboy, but you get the idea..). Apple uses the same parts from the same manufacturer as any of us making our own computer.. Yes Apple got that nice shiny design, but really, you can get a case in aluminium, that looks alot like the Mac Pro for about 150$.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;22945896]Oh here we go again with that thing "Apple uses quality parts, your PC doesn't" ROFL!" (Said like a fanboy, but you get the idea..). Apple uses the same parts from the same manufacturer as any of us making our own computer.. Yes Apple got that nice shiny design, but really, you can get a case in aluminium, that looks alot like the Mac Pro for about 150$.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, finally somebody who has common sense.
You are deliberately choosing the most PC-esque Mac though there. If you compare laptops to Macbooks, the Macbooks will probably be thinner and lighter than most other laptops, while having superior battery life. On top of this are less tangible things like high quality screens (for the MBPs at any rate), and the rock solid chassis. Same thing applies to the iMac too. No one is denying that the actual computer inside Macs aren't as highly specced for the price as others, but it's the entire product that people pay for.
I'd argue against "user friendly". "Apple-'usability'" seem to consist of removing functionality until it's "simple". And in fact, the more abstract and arbitrary the system is, the harder it is to understand, and subsequently use. The dock alone has been criticized by leading experts as a usability disaster.
And it is my observation that a common theme among hackers and leading programmers is the sentiment that they learned their craft primarily as a direct result of fiddling with computers back when they really were simple, and the under the hood workings were clearly exposed. One expressed the desire for Linux to return to the days where using a computer was "fun". Rather than the poor "idiot box" it had become.
Apple couldn't be further removed from that. Their force is that even though their users understand exactly 0% of the UI it only has one button so it isn't hard to use even for an idiot. In fact that is the only kind of person who can really use it. Because there is no entry point for any user to become anything but an idiot.
What Apple has going for it is an incredible user experience. When Apple implements something it may be as old as time itself. (Hi video calls for iPhone 4.) But god damn if it won't work perfectly every time. There's no fiddling around with Apple. No indecipherable stop messages, no obscure settings, no loading/waiting times, nothing between the user and the feature. And their hardware is extremely well put together, the build quality is practically unmatched.
So even if it is a terrible idiot box, it's the best damn idiot box around.
[QUOTE=Dr Egg;22949765]You are deliberately choosing the most PC-esque Mac though there. If you compare laptops to Macbooks, the Macbooks will probably be thinner and lighter than most other laptops, while having superior battery life. On top of this are less tangible things like high quality screens (for the MBPs at any rate), and the rock solid chassis. Same thing applies to the iMac too. No one is denying that the actual computer inside Macs aren't as highly specced for the price as others, but it's the entire product that people pay for.[/QUOTE]
NO, people pay for the little fruit on it
[QUOTE=SSBMX;22954073]NO, people pay for the little fruit on it[/QUOTE]
I didn't buy my Macbook for the little fruit on it? I bought it for OS X, the battery life, the portability, the simplicity and the sexy screen. Designing on Windows is a nightmare for me compared to designing on OS X, it's preference (and the sexy screen).
Why do you people even come into the Apple section if you don't enjoy their products? We don't go into the Windows section and flame people for their purchases..
Why do you even care what we pay for, it's our money?!
:frog:
He used the "Little fruit" as a metaphor(?) for "The Design", which is pretty much true. You pay for the design of the computer, the OS and so on. I got to say that I think that MBP's are pretty heavy, but it is true that they got some good battery life... But everything has it's cost, try look at you MBP's GPU.
How Apple gets product ideas from competing companies which in turn are being put out of business by Apple. That's a major weakness.
Well, it isn't a weakness from Apple's point of view..
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