[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;39673917]It doesn't really make sense.
This is an awful turn on Google's part. I probably would have considered one if it didn't have such a paltry internal storage and that awful price.
An MBP or competing Thinkpad are the only real options at that price point if you want a decent experience.[/QUOTE]
It basically sounds like if I took the whole situation regarding the Nexus Q and replaced it with Chromebook Pixel, that it'd fit perfectly. A device too expensive for what you get, and very limited in what it can do(unless you ditch ChromeOS). Hopefully the "and it was scrapped and never shipped" part won't apply here too.
Wow, it's beautiful but for £1k, that's a lot of money.
yea let me just spend over a grand on a computer that runs a browser and only a browser
google has gone completely off the rails with this chromebook shit.
who the actual fuck is going to buy this, there's no demographic there at all
[QUOTE=Lazor;39675429]yea let me just spend over a grand on a computer that runs a browser and only a browser
google has gone completely off the rails with this chromebook shit.[/QUOTE]
It looks like a MacBook, but runs an obscure operating system so you can be a hipster while being a hipster!
[QUOTE=woolio1;39677777]It looks like a MacBook, but runs an obscure operating system so you can be a hipster while being a hipster![/QUOTE]
and pretty much everyone who owns a macbook would have a legitimate reason to laugh at you
a high density touchscreen is just not worth $1300 given that the other chromebooks are $250-$300
Well, at least you'll be able (unless Google pulls some shit) to install Windows or whatever OS you'd want on it. Looks like a really nice laptop, it's just that the OS just doesn't cut it in my opinion (and especially in this price range).
32GB would get filled up immediately with Windows though and the 64GB one is $150 more expensive.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39678135]Well, at least you'll be able (unless Google pulls some shit) to install Windows or whatever OS you'd want on it. Looks like a really nice laptop, it's just that the OS just doesn't cut it in my opinion (and especially in this price range).[/QUOTE]
No it really isn't for the price. It uses a 1.8GHz i5, only has USB2 ports, is 32GB, with 4GB of RAM. It's an unimpressive device in every aspect apart from the display and design.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;39678193]No it really isn't for the price. It uses a 1.8GHz i5, only has USB2 ports, is 32GB, with 4GB of RAM. It's an unimpressive device in every aspect apart from the display and design.[/QUOTE]
I'd heard the storage size was small, but not that small. Bump it up to something more respectable (at least 128GB), and maybe notch the price down a bit. Clock frequency can really be both a plus and a negative, depending on how it reflects on battery life and what you want to use it for. USB2 is pretty dumb, though. And then there's the question of software.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39679177]I'd heard the storage size was small, but not that small. Bump it up to something more respectable (at least 128GB), and maybe notch the price down a bit. Clock frequency can really be both a plus and a negative, depending on how it reflects on battery life and what you want to use it for. USB2 is pretty dumb, though. And then there's the question of software.[/QUOTE]
For a web based OS I'm sure it's a positive since you won't need much in the way of processing power. But it's a huge negative for anyone who might want to put GNU/Linux or Windows. Again I honestly see zero reasons to get this over the MacBook Pro retina in pretty much every circumstance unless you actually want ChromeOS over everything else. I also don't see it sitting at $1300 for very long.
It'll be on Woot for $500 in 6 months.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;39679290]For a web based OS I'm sure it's a positive since you won't need much in the way of processing power. But it's a huge negative for anyone who might want to put GNU/Linux or Windows. Again I honestly see zero reasons to get this over the MacBook Pro retina in pretty much every circumstance unless you actually want ChromeOS over everything else. I also don't see it sitting at $1300 for very long.[/QUOTE]
I was arguing putting Windows (8) on it anyway. As it is right now, it's not really a good deal, but with the changes I put forth, it could be. And a 1.8GHz i5 should be adequate for most people's needs, so assuming they could make up for it in battery life, I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39679335]I was arguing putting Windows (8) on it anyway. As it is right now, it's not really a good deal, but with the changes I put forth, it could be. And a 1.8GHz i5 should be adequate for most people's needs, so assuming they could make up for it in battery life, I personally wouldn't have a problem with it.[/QUOTE]
They're not seemingly very confident in the battery life. It's rated at 5 hours, two less than the rMBP 13". Judging by Anandtech's tests even if it was right on 5 hours the battery life would still be worse than the 2.4 or something GHz rMBP. I'd imagine the thinness limits how much battery they could shove in.
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Oh and sorry for all the comparisons to the MacBook but with the screen and size and price it really seems like thats what it wants to compete with.
If you really want ChromeOS, though, our very own Hexxeh does compiled builds for most hardware. So, really, there's absolutely no reason to get this over a rMBP.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;39679358]They're not seemingly very confident in the battery life. It's rated at 5 hours, two less than the rMBP 13". Judging by Anandtech's tests even if it was right on 5 hours the battery life would still be worse than the 2.4 or something GHz rMBP. I'd imagine the thinness limits how much battery they could shove in.
[editline]22nd February 2013[/editline]
Oh and sorry for all the comparisons to the MacBook but with the screen and size and price it really seems like thats what it wants to compete with.[/QUOTE]
Well, there's not much else to compare with. It [I]is[/I] slightly thinner, but they'd really have to pull more than 5 hours from it to impress me. If they did the same runtime as the retina macbook and quadrupled the storage, it'd be nice enough in my opinion, granted the price was the same as now.
[QUOTE=woolio1;39679408]If you really want ChromeOS, though, our very own Hexxeh does compiled builds for most hardware. So, really, there's absolutely no reason to get this over a rMBP.[/QUOTE]
Except hardware support is pretty poor and you don't get auto-updates.
A few words about the Pixel by the way: the hardware is lush, possibly the best laptop I've ever used. The trackpad feels great, keyboard has a great feel to it and the display is amazing. Before you judge it, you should totally try it.
If you're a more hackerish-type, you'll be happy to know it's as open and hackable as the rest of the Chromebook family so you can run Ubuntu or you favourite Linux distro alongside if you wish. It also goes a step even further than other Chromebooks, there's actually support for a user-supplied bootloader in there. Usually there are two firmware slots (which are signed/verified). In developer mode, we make a third available with a copy of SeaBIOS loaded in. This would let you boot unmodified OSes in theory (in practice, there are a couple limitations, but people can figure those out for each OS you'd want to load). Personally I don't feel the need.
The web is leaping forward, even as a developer I'm finding everything I need on a Chromebook now. My standard set of tools and their Chrome OS versions are below:
Spotify - has a web player at [url]http://play.spotify.com[/url]
Terminal - using Secure Shell extension to SSH into my workstation at home (which runs headless)
Video conferencing - Google Hangouts inside Google+
Instant messaging - Google Talk inside GMail
IRC - IRCCloud.com
What else do you need? :v:
well go on, post some screenshots damn it
[SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][sp]and release chrome for nexus 7[/sp][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP]
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39679781]Except hardware support is pretty poor and you don't get auto-updates.
A few words about the Pixel by the way: the hardware is lush, possibly the best laptop I've ever used. The trackpad feels great, keyboard has a great feel to it and the display is amazing. Before you judge it, you should totally try it.
If you're a more hackerish-type, you'll be happy to know it's as open and hackable as the rest of the Chromebook family so you can run Ubuntu or you favourite Linux distro alongside if you wish. It also goes a step even further than other Chromebooks, there's actually support for a user-supplied bootloader in there. Usually there are two firmware slots (which are signed/verified). In developer mode, we make a third available with a copy of SeaBIOS loaded in. This would let you boot unmodified OSes in theory (in practice, there are a couple limitations, but people can figure those out for each OS you'd want to load). Personally I don't feel the need.
The web is leaping forward, even as a developer I'm finding everything I need on a Chromebook now. My standard set of tools and their Chrome OS versions are below:
Spotify - has a web player at [url]http://play.spotify.com[/url]
Terminal - using Secure Shell extension to SSH into my workstation at home (which runs headless)
Video conferencing - Google Hangouts inside Google+
Instant messaging - Google Talk inside GMail
IRC - IRCCloud.com
What else do you need? :v:[/QUOTE]
did you get your chromebook on some kind of offer? If not that is some quick shipping
[QUOTE=Ezhik;39680015]well go on, post some screenshots damn it
[SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][sp]and release chrome for nexus 7[/sp][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/QUOTE]
Screenshots would look just the same as any other Chrome OS device, just super high res. I can if you like, though...
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;39680121]did you get your chromebook on some kind of offer? If not that is some quick shipping[/QUOTE]
Full disclosure: I work for Google on the Chrome OS team.
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39680190]Screenshots would look just the same as any other Chrome OS device, just super high res. I can if you like, though...
Full disclosure: I work for Google on the Chrome OS team.[/QUOTE]
Ooh, that's pretty cool.
I think Ezhik meant photos :v:
i'm more concerned about that little black line in my post :v:
but yeah, some screenshots would be nice anyway, i like looking at high-res things on normal-res displays
Here's my desktop:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/SXZufj2.jpg[/img]
Before somebody asks, the incognito window is for work/corp stuff.
...is going to be the exact same just more "mac" like.
Fuck off and give me my ThinkPad.
I can imagine it being a bit odd to navigate ChromeOS with touch controls. Regardless, a new software update with new features is bound to follow the release of the new models (I'm looking at you, unified message center.)
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39679781]What else do you need? :v:[/QUOTE]
Microsoft Office, Steam, iTunes, Notepad++ (Though some sort of editor in SSH [I]could [/I]work), Mumble, Skype...
If I was to pay more than twice what I paid for my current 13" laptop + upgrades, I'd expect it to [I]at least[/I] the same things. The $250-350 range is where Chromebooks belong, they're tablet alternatives.
The most they could sell something like this for would be... $699?
[QUOTE=benjgvps;39682988]Microsoft Office, Steam, iTunes, Notepad++ (Though some sort of editor in SSH [I]could [/I]work), Mumble, Skype...
If I was to pay more than twice what I paid for my current 13" laptop + upgrades, I'd expect it to [I]at least[/I] the same things. The $250-350 range is where Chromebooks belong, they're tablet alternatives.
The most they could sell something like this for would be... $699?[/QUOTE]
Microsoft Office?
Google Drive. You can thank me later, it's amazing, I know.
Steam?
Okay, so for hardcore gaming perhaps a Chromebook isn't appropriate.
iTunes?
I don't miss this at all. There are a boatload of online music apps, I like Spotify but there are many others.
Notepad++?
There are many online editors, like Cloud9, but I like nano in a Secure Shell tab personally.
Also worth mentioning this is a super Linux friendly device. On launch day we submitted a whole bunch of code to support the device (trackpad, touchscreen etc) to the mainline Linux kernel.
There's also a handy legacy boot mode so you possibly even make Windows work I guess...
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