[QUOTE=LordCrypto;39684206]i flip a coin 100 times and they all land tails
is the next one more or less likely to land on heads
(also, this is a much more expensive product than any other google play sold device, and seems like this is the beginning of "who needs oems")[/QUOTE]
That's an illegitimate analogy. A company that doesn't care about display calibration doesn't just start doing it. It takes work to have your suppliers all sending you factory calibrated panels, and it's something you'd generally advertise when every single other product you've ever made sucks in that regard.
1. Users who use this laptop with chromeOS won't have any use for good calibration
2. Google doesn't have suppliers who are set up to calibrate all the panels sent for their products
3. Google found it necessary to advertise the high resolution but ignored anything else related to the display, something they did exactly the same with their Nexus 10 tablet to advertise it
Really seems to point to it probably not being better. It's not just a scenario of "they could do it, or they could not" because there are lots of factors that put the chance of it being the latter above the 50% of a coin landing on heads or tails.
[editline]23rd February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;39684277]Er..there IS an LTE version, its just $150 more expensive. And then you have the costs of verizon's data service on top of that. And you're STILL fucked if you're in an area with poor coverage (which is surprisingly plentiful)[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't it be an LTE/UMTS radio? LTE only would be a very poor decision unless the laptop isn't allowed to leave urban areas inside the United States.
Also someone said it comes with like 100MB of data on Verizon but LTE could use that up in a few minutes.
[editline]23rd February 2013[/editline]
Erm...LTE/CDMA I suppose if it's Verizon. Guess not then because they'd need ESNs for every laptop which means it could only be sold through Verizon. Well that was a poor choice. Should have done LTE 700/1700 and UMTS 850/1900 so it'd work around the world on most UMTS networks and on North American LTE.
The GPlay page just says "Built-in LTE modem + GPS"
Might just be 700/1700MHz so it'd only work on LTE on the big 3 major carriers in Canada and Verizon and AT&T in the states.
I'll look into the colour calibration thing.
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39683928]There's being critical and then there's being a jerk. Criticise away, but don't be a jerk.[/QUOTE]
you are a tool
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39679781]Except hardware support is pretty poor and you don't get auto-updates.
A few words about the Pixel by the way: the hardware is lush, possibly the best laptop I've ever used. The trackpad feels great, keyboard has a great feel to it and the display is amazing. Before you judge it, you should totally try it.
If you're a more hackerish-type, you'll be happy to know it's as open and hackable as the rest of the Chromebook family so you can run Ubuntu or you favourite Linux distro alongside if you wish. It also goes a step even further than other Chromebooks, there's actually support for a user-supplied bootloader in there. Usually there are two firmware slots (which are signed/verified). In developer mode, we make a third available with a copy of SeaBIOS loaded in. This would let you boot unmodified OSes in theory (in practice, there are a couple limitations, but people can figure those out for each OS you'd want to load). Personally I don't feel the need.
The web is leaping forward, even as a developer I'm finding everything I need on a Chromebook now. My standard set of tools and their Chrome OS versions are below:
Spotify - has a web player at [url]http://play.spotify.com[/url]
Terminal - using Secure Shell extension to SSH into my workstation at home (which runs headless)
Video conferencing - Google Hangouts inside Google+
Instant messaging - Google Talk inside GMail
IRC - IRCCloud.com
What else do you need? :v:[/QUOTE]
Viral.
I should probably point out, I worked on Chromium OS (the open-source side of Chrome OS) for 2.5 years before I worked for Google. I didn't get paid for that, I did it because I liked the project...
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39683171]Microsoft Office?
Google Drive. You can thank me later, it's amazing, I know.
Steam?
Okay, so for hardcore gaming perhaps a Chromebook isn't appropriate.
iTunes?
I don't miss this at all. There are a boatload of online music apps, I like Spotify but there are many others.
Notepad++?
There are many online editors, like Cloud9, but I like nano in a Secure Shell tab personally.
Also worth mentioning this is a super Linux friendly device. On launch day we submitted a whole bunch of code to support the device (trackpad, touchscreen etc) to the mainline Linux kernel.
There's also a handy legacy boot mode so you possibly even make Windows work I guess...[/QUOTE]
Google Drive is useful, though it doesn't replace Office for me completely. Especially when all of my teachers put stuff out using PowerPoint and Word. I used it a bunch in high school since the options were between Corel Wordperfect and OpenOffice, though my college has Office 2010 on every machine and I actually own a legitimate licence now.
I mainly use Steam on my laptop for chat, though with the occasional light gaming.
Spotify, Google Music, Pandora, ect don't work in Canada. I've tried other music players, though iTunes just works for me right now. I want local storage for my music, it's reliable and I don't have to worry about half my library going away because the company lost their deal with X publisher.
I could probably deal with Linux if WINE has improved since I last used it and will actually run Office, though again if I'm paying that much for a computer it better have Mac OS X or Windows.
All that said, I'd probably use that $250 Samsung Chromebook more than I'm currently using my N7. It looks like a nice OS... Though not on such an expensive piece of hardware.
[QUOTE=benjgvps;39684802]Google Drive is useful, though it doesn't replace Office for me completely. Especially when all of my teachers put stuff out using PowerPoint and Word. I used it a bunch in high school since the options were between Corel Wordperfect and OpenOffice, though my college has Office 2010 on every machine and I actually own a legitimate licence now.
I mainly use Steam on my laptop for chat, though with the occasional light gaming.
Spotify, Google Music, Pandora, ect don't work in Canada. I've tried other music players, though iTunes just works for me right now. I want local storage for my music, it's reliable and I don't have to worry about half my library going away because the company lost their deal with X publisher.
I could probably deal with Linux if WINE has improved since I last used it and will actually run Office, though again if I'm paying that much for a computer it better have Mac OS X or Windows.
All that said, I'd probably use that $250 Samsung Chromebook more than I'm currently using my N7. It looks like a nice OS... Though not on such an expensive piece of hardware.[/QUOTE]
What is Google Drive missing that you need? It opens Word/PowerPoint files, no?
imo.im does Steam chat, I use it fairly regularly.
Region restrictions suck... :(
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39684819]What is Google Drive missing that you need? It opens Word/PowerPoint files, no?
[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong, Google Drive has very good support for a wide variety of features, including some that Office doesn't have. (Very good support for equations and collaboration, for example.)
But while it can do 95% of the things that Office can do, when you need that last 5% of advanced features, you really start to miss Office. (Also there are occasionally errors with the way certain uploaded Word Documents look, especially highly stylized ones.)
Hexxeh I know what you're saying that a lot of shit is now on the web but not everyone is constantly online, when i take my nexus 7 or laptop on vacation i have a lot of shit in local storage so its in my reach at any time
In Australia our internet isn't great but one thing is that we get capped if we blow over our data and it happens regularly so im only able to view websites that have text post and images from my cache, im not able to stream spotify in that state but i did get a 3 month spotify experience which will expire in a couple of days
what im saying is, chromebooks are fine if you're 24/7 online but if you're like me and most people who save stuff locally and arent always connected, to me it isnt for my need, and $1300 is just so fucking expensive for an OS i dont want, if i can install windows i may see some potential but even 32/64gb of space is a fuck no to me
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39684819]
imo.im does Steam chat, I use it fairly regularly.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://puu.sh/26RVY[/img]
I'm not sure if you need to enable the Steam beta client at least once for it, but Steam offers chat on [url=http://steamcommunity.com/chat]their website now[/url].
I love Chrome OS, but my biggest gripe is that I'm always in a location with a [b]really spotty[/b] internet connection when I need it to work the most. Google Docs on Android, for instance, will not function at all if the connection keeps dropping in and out - even if you make the file offline. I know offline docs works better on Chrome, but I'm worried about this.
If you had an sd card with a ton of video files on it, would you be able to play them with it? Say a downloaded H.264 movie?
Also to add on with connection speeds, i can stream all my stuff but i always like having it locally saved so i can watch it at any time, my upload speed is really shit to have it on a server somewhere in America and stream it from there with an internet connection
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;39687611][img]http://i.imgur.com/FlUM299.jpg[/img]
Do I spy a mini PCIe slot on the left, with what looks like an SSD in it?
All I see elsewhere is RAM soldered onto the board.
[editline]23rd February 2013[/editline]
I hope they didn't glue it in, that would be Apple level bullshit.[/QUOTE]
That's not an SSD (I'm not sure what it is, but it isn't an SSD).
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;39686460]Also to add on with connection speeds, i can stream all my stuff but i always like having it locally saved so i can watch it at any time, my upload speed is really shit to have it on a server somewhere in America and stream it from there with an internet connection[/QUOTE]
Fair arguments. :)
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;39685847]If you had an sd card with a ton of video files on it, would you be able to play them with it? Say a downloaded H.264 movie?[/QUOTE]
You should be able to play them, yep.
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;39685847][img_thumb]http://puu.sh/26RVY[/img_thumb]
I'm not sure if you need to enable the Steam beta client at least once for it, but Steam offers chat on [url=http://steamcommunity.com/chat]their website now[/url].[/QUOTE]
To piggyback on this post, I created an extension for Steam chat so that you can throw a direct link for it down on your launcher bar.
[quote]Following a tutorial found [url=https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/chromebook-central/4N9MLUSViYM]here[/url], I have created a Chromebook app that is nothing more than a link to the new online Steam chat. Why? So you can add it to your launcher bar, of course!
Currently, Chromebooks do not support pinning bookmarks to the launcher bar. It is reserved for installed apps only.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/uM1pj0V.png[/img]
Get the necessary files [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3710196/SteamChromebook.zip]here.[/url]
To install-
Unpack the downloaded files (to do this on a Chromebook, go into the zip and copy the two files inside. Then back out of the zip, create a new folder, and paste the two files inside it.)
Go to chrome://extensions in a browser window, check "developer mode" in the top right, and then "load unpacked extension."
Load the folder and viola! You now have an app shortcut for online Steam chat.[/quote]
[QUOTE=benjgvps;39684802]
Spotify, Google Music, Pandora, ect don't work in Canada. I've tried other music players, though iTunes just works for me right now. I want local storage for my music, it's reliable and I don't have to worry about half my library going away because the company lost their deal with X publisher.
[/QUOTE]
Use the Hola unblocker Extension for Chrome.
Really useful.
[QUOTE=DrKinkyKinkles;39688837]To piggyback on this post, I created an extension for Steam chat so that you can throw a direct link for it down on your launcher bar.[/QUOTE]
Looks good! Have you considered putting this into the Chrome Web Store?
i'd love to try chrome os on my vaio netbook but it always bugs out.
i don't have a 4gb memory stick oops.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;39689218]Sod Chrome OS, I just want a port of its window manager for other distros.
Aura is damn pretty.[/QUOTE]
Aura is part of Chrome itself. We used to have a separate window manager, chrome-wm, but that's not been around for some time now. We run Chrome directly atop X now.
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39689230]Aura is part of Chrome itself. We used to have a separate window manager, chrome-wm, but that's not been around for some time now. We run Chrome directly atop X now.[/QUOTE]
i'm sorry for bothering you here but can i write one of the chrome os img files from your site directly to a hard drive if i don't have a big enough memory stick?
[QUOTE=Nalty;39689245]i'm sorry for bothering you here but can i write one of the chrome os img files from your site directly to a hard drive if i don't have a big enough memory stick?[/QUOTE]
That won't work, the bootloader configuration wouldn't be right. Memory sticks are cheap, go buy one.
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39689254]That won't work, the bootloader configuration wouldn't be right. Memory sticks are cheap, go buy one.[/QUOTE]
ok thanks, I'll just try and fix one of my corrupt ones.
Most Broadcom wireless cards require a closed source driver sadly.
I can't get ChromeOS to work for the life of me on my T61. I think it might be because of the nVidia card.
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;39690337]I can't get ChromeOS to work for the life of me on my T61. I think it might be because of the nVidia card.[/QUOTE]
Most likely. Again, closed source drivers... :(
There's Nouveau but I've found it's support is fairly patchy.
[QUOTE=Hexxeh;39690354]Most likely. Again, closed source drivers... :(
There's Nouveau but I've found it's support is fairly patchy.[/QUOTE]
Nouveau is a mess right now, it seems.
hexxeh, do you plan on working full time with google or are you just staying with the internship?
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;39690500]hexxeh, do you plan on working full time with google or are you just staying with the internship?[/QUOTE]
Aiming for full-time once I finish university. Currently doing one big long internship alongside university.
For all you guys complaining about LTE, I live in Knoxville TN, and don't really ever lose 4g on my phone. Even when I am out on buttfuck nowhere highway in East TN.
[editline]23rd February 2013[/editline]
Verizon.
[QUOTE=loophole;39692323]For all you guys complaining about LTE, I live in Knoxville TN, and don't really ever lose 4g on my phone. Even when I am out on buttfuck nowhere highway in East TN.
[editline]23rd February 2013[/editline]
Verizon.[/QUOTE]
Does Verizon offer LTE encompassing the entire globe? Users outside the US are SOL with an LTE only baseband on 700/1700.
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