[QUOTE=Dppdy;31871271]Does you warranty cover purposely trying to burn it out?
Did anyone here actually buy a pc for mining?[/QUOTE]
They really don't care. I've returned things before which were brokn by my own fault, they can't prove anything happened due to you. And yes I bought 2 new GPUs and a small extra PC with the money I'd already made off mining.
If anything you're just a former miner whos annoyed he can no longer do it to make money or just assume everyone who is into bitcoin believes it's the best currency ever and will overthrow governments.
im none of those lol nice try
well then you're just an antagonistic idiot going on about problems which don't exist.
i see no problems with a make believe deflationary cryptocurrency that earns $1 a day and takes up hours of your time
It makes me more than $1 thanks and It doesn't take any of my time, when I'm in I'm still able to use my computer and most of the day I'm out and about so it doesn't affect me at all. You seem to assume that because it's not profitable or worthwhile for you to get into it must not be for anyone else either. I am not a risk taker either, I've alreayd paid off what the parts cost me and there's no electricity costs for me, so there's no reason not to do it.
[QUOTE=Dppdy;31875458]i see no problems with a make believe deflationary cryptocurrency that earns $1 a day and takes up hours of your time[/QUOTE]
It doesn't take any time. You click a button and wait. And then you make more money than $1 per day.
Check this out: [url]http://hackaday.com/2011/08/22/fpga-bitcoin-miner-is-probably-the-most-power-efficient/[/url]
They use about 6.8 watts to get about 100 Mhash/s and they suspect that they can do much higher with some software improvements.
Just wait until ASICminer comes out, that'll take a shit on FPGA and GPU based mining if it's anything like it's supposed to be.
So I haven't been keeping up with it, is bitcoin still going uphill, has it leveled out, or is it dying?
stablised some what, no-one really knows. If there is any media coverage of the Bitcoin conference it may have another bubble like the silk road one, on the other hand a lack of news may make it stagnate.
[QUOTE=gparent;31882355]It doesn't take any time. You click a button and wait. And then you make more money than $1 per day.[/QUOTE]
$1.50 a day oh sorry
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[QUOTE=Dragonblz;31886704]So I haven't been keeping up with it, is bitcoin still going uphill, has it leveled out, or is it dying?[/QUOTE]
going down in a slow burn
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[QUOTE=dippidy2;31894848]$1.50 a day oh sorry
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going down in a slow burn
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I see this as more of a hardware/programming challenge than a way to make money.
The level of cash this thing can feasibly generate can be made far quicker by other means with less of an investment.
The fact that this much electrical energy is being used for no good cause annoys me a little inside, which is why I won't take part.
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The level of cash this thing can feasibly generate can be made far quicker by other means with less of an investment.
The fact that this much electrical energy is being used for no good cause annoys me a little inside, which is why I won't take part.[/QUOTE]
It depends entirely on when you bought in and how long you estimate to run for. I'd like to see another investment which can provide 100% returns in only a few months for a several hundred investment. The electrical concern is silly because I doubt Bitcoin uses much, I doubt much good comes out of folding@home (it's a good cause sure but it probably isn't that productive) and that's got more computer backing than bitcoin has. On the grant scheme of things I doubt this really affects any country's electrical usage at all.
[QUOTE=Callius;31897793] I'd like to see another investment which can provide 100% returns in only a few months for a several hundred investment.[/QUOTE]
Cheap instrument: £50
Average made in 2 hours of street entertaining: £30-60.
(I'm just joking around here, I have obviously missed out the time required to become half decent at playing said instrument, blah blah :v:)
I don't know, It just sounds like a cunning way for kids to make a couple hundred quid off their parent's electricity bills. I have looked into it to find out more and like I said, feels more fun as an programming/hardware challenge. (Like that FPGA Implementation which I think is pretty cool)
I really doubt you can make 30-60 quid in 2 hours of busking. The most I see most bums make doing it is like £5 a day and I live in a tourist hotspot. Unless you're talking from experience in which case you must have some bizarrely good talenst whatever you do.
[QUOTE=Callius;31897793]It depends entirely on when you bought in and how long you estimate to run for. I'd like to see another investment which can provide 100% returns in only a few months for a several hundred investment. The electrical concern is silly because I doubt Bitcoin uses much, I doubt much good comes out of folding@home (it's a good cause sure but it probably isn't that productive) and that's got more computer backing than bitcoin has. On the grant scheme of things I doubt this really affects any country's electrical usage at all.[/QUOTE]
If your paying electricity it cuts your profit to a few cents a day. Bit that's still worth it cause it's a profit, right?
[QUOTE=Callius;31897793]The electrical concern is silly because I doubt Bitcoin uses much, I doubt much good comes out of folding@home (it's a good cause sure but it probably isn't that productive) and that's got more computer backing than bitcoin has. [/QUOTE]
Ok I'll take that back, turns out F@H is only 4 PetaFLOPs while the BTC network is at around 165 PetaFLOPs.
I've never seen numbers before but that is a staggering waste of processing power.
If whomever created bitcoin where to alter it to work with F@H or something similar he would be a pretty cool guy.
You can, just create a fork. Ofcourse then you have to convince the network to move to your new code. Isn't most processing power wasted anyway? Think of all the people who play videos games, the waste of power there isn't ever seen because we don't broadcast it to other people. I'm not saying video games are a waste of time, just that this can be treated the same, a hobby with some personal gain (monetary instead of enjoyment, wel maybe both).
True but here is an unusual opportunity to devote this arbitrary number crunching to do something useful instead of just guessing hashes.
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Please be honest facepunch, am I doing shit?
I'm using a ATI 4670 with a Intel 6400 and 2GB of RAM.
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Please be honest facepunch, am I doing shit?
I'm using a ATI 4670 with a Intel 6400 and 2GB of RAM.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are.
Try using "-w 32" in your extra flags section, I did that with my HD4650 and got slightly better performance. But even then you won't get much, I'd only really bother if you're over 300Mhash, even then it's not going to get you much.
[QUOTE=Callius;31934085]Try using "-w 32" in your extra flags section, I did that with my HD4650 and got slightly better performance. But even then you won't get much, I'd only really bother if you're over 300Mhash, even then it's not going to get you much.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, it went up to 32.5 Mhash/s
[QUOTE=Callius;31934085]Try using "-w 32" in your extra flags section, I did that with my HD4650 and got slightly better performance. But even then you won't get much, I'd only really bother if you're over 300Mhash, even then it's not going to get you much.[/QUOTE]
Considering the difficulty today yeah I'd say this is pretty much true.
I haven't done the math on where the line goes for making a profit vs electricity bills but anything under 300Mhs is going to be so slow it prolly won't be worth the effort.
[QUOTE=chipset;31934630]Considering the difficulty today yeah I'd say this is pretty much true.
I haven't done the math on where the line goes for making a profit vs electricity bills but anything under 300Mhs is going to be so slow it prolly won't be worth the effort.[/QUOTE]
It could be worth it [i]if[/i] you believe the value will skyrocket in the future but that's a large amount of chance, that said difficulty does appear to be dropping again, yay.
[QUOTE=Tazza;31934177]Thanks, it went up to 32.5 Mhash/s[/QUOTE]
My HD4650 get's 33.4Mhash constant, so you should be able to get more than that if you want. I'd suggest moving your core clock up by 5Mhz intervals to see what stable overclock you can get, you can lower the memory clock to near the bottom of the slider to save on heat and get a better core clock. Personally I'd recommend Sapphire's trixx to do this.
[QUOTE=Callius;31934085]Try using "-w 32" in your extra flags section, I did that with my HD4650 and got slightly better performance. But even then you won't get much, I'd only really bother if you're over 300Mhash, even then it's not going to get you much.[/QUOTE]
are you nuts i get steady payout from HALF of 300mhash
[editline]25th August 2011[/editline]
listen i'll give it straight: anything over 100Mhash should be FINE for mining. it takes me MAYBE 2-3 days to get 0.1BTC, and it takes 0.96BTC for a $10 Amazon gift card. within 2 weeks i've got $10, it's totally worth it.
But how much did you spend on electricity doing that?
I mean, Assuming $0.10/KWh and a computer using 200 watts in 2 weeks thats $6.72 In electricity.
I of course don't know the spec. of your machine or indeed your electricity rate, but It's still relevant to think about. (I chose the lowest KWh figure I could find and indeed a low figure for the computer power draw)
(Yes I am aware people are speculating price rises, I am talking currently)
I'm finally starting this just hooked up my 5770 and am getting about 195-ish MHashes. Any tips to help get the best performance would be nice!
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