• Microsoft claims Linux 'at end of life cycle'
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[QUOTE=Van-man;26211520]hence larger and more visible cursor. [B]or else they'll have to move it, just to see it[/B][/QUOTE] :doh: That's the whole point. It's meant for people who have problem tracking a moving cursor... got it :downs:? [editline]21st November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Jookia;26211484]It's more of a request for evidence to support your claim of Windows 7 being superior.[/QUOTE] I'm also requesting you to support your claim of linux varients being better than windows 7.
[QUOTE=Van-man;26211520]hence larger and more visible cursor. or else they'll have to move it, just to see it[/QUOTE] try to read it again, but this time much more critically "you know because people with poor vision are going to be able to track that cursor to click on those settings" note the sarcasm, hinting to people with poor vision not even being capable of following that cursor to set resolution i ask you, if these people have such poor vision that they have to lower the screen resolution to see the cursor, how exactly are they supposed to navigate to the control panel in the first place? of course, the same argument applies to cursor trails, but my point is your solution/alternative is silly and redundant.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26211963]:doh: That's the whole point. It's meant for people who have problem tracking a moving cursor... got it :downs:?[/QUOTE] I can't see it because it's moving, holy shit i have no idea where my hands are moving the mouse :downs: i they can see the cursor when it's not moving they should be capable to see the curser when it is moving. Unless they have ADHD, or a possessed hand controlling the mouse.
Dear Linux C0mmunity, Knock it off already. Linux is no threat to Windows, or *shudder* OSX and it will never be. Sane people want nothing to do with this. They want to double click, click to accept the EULA and be off to the races. Sane people do not want a choice between 30 flavors of Linux, they want to get "the OS that runs stuff". Stop putting effort into 30 trivial OSes. Put that power into making ONE Linux and be done with it. Then you'll have a rival for Win7 and OSX. The Linux flavor of the month club isn't appealing to normal people. If you're a weirdo who digs working in CLI, good for you. Have fun with your hobby. But stop whining about people not taking your pet Linux flavor seriously. [QUOTE=Van-man;26212067]I can't see it because it's moving, holy shit i have no idea where my hands are moving the mouse :downs: i they can see the cursor when it's not moving they should be capable to see the curser when it is moving. Unless they have ADHD, or a possessed hand controlling the mouse.[/QUOTE] This post is so idiotic that i'm not even gonna bother replying...
oh look it's BmB let's see what intellectual and stimulating stuff he has to say [QUOTE=BmB;26201023][b]I'm not sure what sort of magical shit Linux is supposed to do[/b] that Windows can't. It's a bloody OS. It has a different (and shittier) sortiment of software and legacy apps from 1978. [b]Heck, so far as I understand[/b] a lot of the ways things are done under Linux is inferior and outdated or simply plain dumb. Like the whole package manager dependency hell shit [b]with no application directories or something.[/b] On the other hand I also understand that Windows [b]might well be the most sophisticated OS[/b] available to an end user today. So why on Earth would you want Linux to get "more" from your computer? At least Windows works for you even if you don't want this [b]mystical "more"[/b]. I guess Linux by virtue of being open is far more transparent and tinkerable and as such a better learning environment.[b] Or something.[/b] But I don't think the makers of [b]Ubuntu[/b] knows what transparent means.[/QUOTE] sure looking like you know your stuff there, I like your style
Linux has died several times. It keeps evolving in new ways. If anyone cares to read the article he does address a few good points
Why is everyone calling fatfatfatty a furry? there can be some pretty horrible, and nasty ones, there is a load more descent ones, however, him? would give the most horrible ones a bad name.
[QUOTE=Jookia;26211232]Prove it.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/Windows-7-175-Million-Copies-Sold.aspx[/url] (from july) yeah 175million are dead wrong, I mean ubuntu, must have over 300million
[QUOTE=bobste;26208685]i like windows[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Skorpy;26208932]i like linux[/QUOTE] I like both because i can dual boot :buddy:
[QUOTE=Van-man;26210867]Have a funny, because I laughed AT you I'd rather use a larger and more visible cursor instead, maybe accompanied with a lower resolution. Again, laughing AT you.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Coffee;26210895]If they want to track the cursor more easily, why don't they slow down the mouse speed?[/QUOTE] Because they can enable mouse trails and enjoy normal sized cursor on a huge resolution.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26212219]Dear Linux C0mmunity, Knock it off already. Linux is no threat to Windows, or *shudder* OSX and it will never be. [/QUOTE]Never claimed to be a thread or a replacement, just another car on the road and some imatore people claiming it to be the best or worst thing ever. [QUOTE=aydin690;26212219] Sane people want nothing to do with this. They want to double click, click to accept the EULA and be off to the races.[/QUOTE]And thats why they happily use windows. [QUOTE=aydin690;26212219] Sane people do not want a choice between 30 flavors of Linux, they want to get "the OS that runs stuff". Stop putting effort into 30 trivial OSes. Put that power into making ONE Linux and be done with it. Then you'll have a rival for Win7 and OSX. The Linux flavor of the month club isn't appealing to normal people.[/QUOTE]Thats why the happily use windows, there not forced to use Linux at all. An Ubuntu is the perfect OS for starters, even I used it way back in the olden days. Yes for a outsider it looks like 30 oses. But it is only one with many sub branches, that like cars keep others active. A market with choice has to compete and improve daily, a example of that gone bad is IE. Back when they had like 90% of the market the stopped tinkering did everything there own horrible way. And Firefox passed like a bullet and the only thing they could do was sit on there fat asses and watch. They still try to catchup today. [QUOTE=aydin690;26212219] If you're a weirdo who digs working in CLI, good for you. Have fun with your hobby. But stop whining about people not taking your pet Linux flavor seriously.[/QUOTE]Most of us aren't.
[QUOTE=DrLuke;26199947]Windows is for the normal average user that doesn't need anything but a system running out of the box. But as soon as one wants to get more out of his computer, one should use Linux.[/QUOTE] Ubuntu is for the normal average user that doesn't need anything but a system running out of the box. But as soon as one wants to get more out of his computer, one should use Arch. Windows is for people who haven't figured out what a normal average user should be.
[QUOTE=nekosune;26213684]Why is everyone calling fatfatfatty a furry? there can be some pretty horrible, and nasty ones, there is a load more descent ones, however, him? would give the most horrible ones a bad name.[/QUOTE] his avatar is from a mayhem album. mayhem is an alias of nsrenard, a furry.
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;26213865][url]http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/Windows-7-175-Million-Copies-Sold.aspx[/url] (from july) yeah 175million are dead wrong, I mean ubuntu, must have over 300million[/QUOTE] Who cares about end users. The server share is arguably more important. [url]http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/operating_system/all[/url]
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;26215114]Who cares about end users. The server share is arguably more important. [url]http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/operating_system/all[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah and use RH, oh yeah I have to pay for that. Clients are just as, important as a server
Well I'm pretty sure you can set up mouse trails on Ubuntu...Just saying after using Windows and Linux for years I realized I don't care which people think is better because I have em both. Windows cost me money though...
Guess what OS Facepunch runs on.
[QUOTE=nikomo;26216505]Guess what OS Facepunch runs on.[/QUOTE] Plan 9 from Bell Labs
The only reason Microsoft has been so successful is the fact that they have proprietary technologies such as DirectX and entire programming languages that only function on the Windows platform.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;26216856]The only reason Microsoft has been so successful is the fact that they have proprietary technologies such as DirectX and entire programming languages that only function on the Windows platform.[/QUOTE] Amazingly enough, I dissagree about the programming languages part, they are actively helping Mono. I mean they also even say about using Moonlight (the Mono Silverlight) on thier own site
How does an open source OS even have an "end of life" when anybody can go in work on it? [editline]21st November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=nikomo;26216505]Guess what OS Facepunch runs on.[/QUOTE] Windows Mobile.
[QUOTE=Demache;26217229]How does an open source OS even have an "end of life" when anybody can go in work on it? [/QUOTE] When no one uses it is pretty much the end
[QUOTE=M_B;26211188]Microsoft loves to bash open development. remember their recent smear campaign against Open Office?[/QUOTE] Whatever they said is probably true openoffice is shit you're just butthurt openfag. [editline]22nd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=xenodrox;26214472]Ubuntu is for the normal average user that doesn't need anything but a system running out of the box. But as soon as one wants to get more out of his computer, one should use Arch. Windows is for people who haven't figured out what a normal average user should be.[/QUOTE] Ubuntu doesn't work out of the box. It's shit. Seriously stop it with this religious crap, you sound like Steve Jobs talking about the iPad. [i]What is so magical about Linux?[/i] A few conf files you can edit in a 30 year old text editor in 5 seconds using some sort of command line script?
Will you guys quit the freaking Linux bullshitting? Oh well when content is away. [QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26207419]ever used tomtom or tivo? how about an android phone? maybe a Linksys WRT54G series router? perhaps a WD MyBook? How about a Samsung TV or an LG Bravia? ever been to an arcade with Gaelco or Sega Lindbergh games? how about pretty much any motorola phone since 2004? remember those leapfrog learning devices? you've used linux at some point in your life, I guarantee it.[/QUOTE] You seem to not know the difference between embedded and linux. Android isn't linux, its fucking Android. Just because its open source doesn't mean its linux, its not designed for x86 machines; mostly ARM architecture processors. A hardware implementation is much better at a specific role then software. You don't need Operating Systems for many different things, its the lazy way to do it. There is a reason fixed function processors exist, to do one thing really well. If it will only do a certain thing and won't change what it does based on what its given it doesn't need an OS. if it interfaces with humans in a non-direct way it usually has an OS. Its amazing the stuff you can make to do a good that uses zero or minimal software when you have an FPGA. Sorry I just get really peeved when people say that embedded software is the same as linux. If you ever mess with an ardunio you aren't using linux, same with a PIC, or most any other microprocessor that lacks the x86 instruction set. Special projects withstanding, just because you can put linux on any consumer device doesn't mean its better. A microwave with an OS isn't better then a pure hardware implementation.
Well it's the linux kernel is it not? That is the defining element for whether it runs linux or not yes? But by that standard of course there are just as many things running Windows embedded of some sort.
[QUOTE=BmB;26219316]Well it's the linux kernel is it not? That is the defining element for whether it runs linux or not yes? But by that standard of course there are just as many things running Windows embedded of some sort.[/QUOTE] no... most things that are embedded use NO operating System. There is an over head to an Operating System. You are far better off using low level languages to directly access the stack and IO calls then an OS. When I see someone use an embedded OS it disgusts me. It means you were to lazy to do it the right way. I don't think you want to run an embedded OS on a 40MHz 16-bit processor. Being based of the linux kernel doesn't mean it is linux. [quote=Wikipedia article on Android]Linux compatibility: -Android's kernel was derived from Linux but has been tweaked by Google outside the main Linux kernel tree. Android does not have a native X Window System nor does it support the full set of standard GNU libraries, and this makes it difficult to port existing GNU/Linux applications or libraries to Android. However, support for the X Window System is possible. -Google no longer maintains the code they previously contributed to the Linux kernel as part of their Android effort, effectively branching kernel code in their own tree, separating their code from Linux. This was due to a disagreement about new features Google felt were necessary. The code which is no longer maintained was deleted in January 2010 from the Linux codebase.However, Google announced in April 2010 that they will employ staff to work with the Linux kernel community.[/quote]
Just because it's inefficient doesn't stop people from putting linux and windows CE and whatnot on anything.
[QUOTE=BmB;26219068]Whatever they said is probably true openoffice is shit you're just butthurt openfag. [editline]22nd November 2010[/editline] Ubuntu doesn't work out of the box. It's shit. Seriously stop it with this religious crap, [b]you sound like Steve Jobs talking about the iPad.[/b] [/QUOTE] How appropriate, you sound like the 'linux vs mac' commercial Apple would make.
[QUOTE=BmB;26219068] Ubuntu doesn't work out of the box. It's shit.[/quote] This is plain retarded, every system I've ever tried Ubuntu on works better 'out of the box' than any version of Windows, in fact Windows Vista / 7 does not even support some of my hardware and no I'm not going to buy new hardware just for shitty compatibility with Windows. Sure there is some problems with new hardware on Linux, but generally working drivers are released quite fast, and some manufacturers actually provide Linux drivers. Windows, Linux and Mac will never die as long as there is community support for them, Microsoft sure love to talk out their ass a lot.
[QUOTE=aydin690;26211963]I'm also requesting you to support your claim of linux varients being better than windows 7.[/QUOTE] I never said it was better than Windows 7 or worse than Windows 7. I'm asking you for proof of your claim that Windows 7 is superior, the burden of proof is on you as YOU made the claims.
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