• Microsoft claims Linux 'at end of life cycle'
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Microsoft really like to start Shitstorms.
[QUOTE=4RT1LL3RY;26219461]no... most things that are embedded use NO operating System. There is an over head to an Operating System. You are far better off using low level languages to directly access the stack and IO calls then an OS. When I see someone use an embedded OS it disgusts me. It means you were to lazy to do it the right way. I don't think you want to run an embedded OS on a 40MHz 16-bit processor. Being based of the linux kernel doesn't mean it is linux.[/QUOTE] it's Linux. it uses the Linux kernel and a Linux shell. the only thing it doesn't have is the GNU coreutils (which is replaced by busybox in a lot of distros anyway, ie slitaz, dsl) and the X Window system. and the X Window system isn't even installed by default in many (read most) poweruser distros. if the lack of an X window system actually made it not Linux, then Gentoo would not be linux, Arch would not be Linux, any server distribution would not be Linux. you've done a good job making yourself into content for the computer illiterate thread, by the way.
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;26213865][url]http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/Windows-7-175-Million-Copies-Sold.aspx[/url] (from july) yeah 175million are dead wrong, I mean ubuntu, must have over 300million[/QUOTE] Holy fuck. Your logic is flawless. McDonalds clearly make the best food in the world because they sell so many Happy Meals. If only someone had told me "sales = quality of product" sooner. :sigh:
[QUOTE=Chryseus;26222268]This is plain retarded, every system I've ever tried Ubuntu on works better 'out of the box' than any version of Windows, in fact Windows Vista / 7 does not even support some of my hardware and no I'm not going to buy new hardware just for shitty compatibility with Windows. Sure there is some problems with new hardware on Linux, but generally working drivers are released quite fast, and some manufacturers actually provide Linux drivers. Windows, Linux and Mac will never die as long as there is community support for them, Microsoft sure love to talk out their ass a lot.[/QUOTE] You must be joking. Professionals and skilled hackers migrate to Windows cause shit be broken, my own attempt was a hassle to set up and ended up actually crashing the file browser every 20 seconds. The GUI is but a pale cardboard front that does nothing to hide the need for complicated command line and technical fiddling. That isn't working in any way.
[QUOTE=BmB;26227480]You must be joking. [b]Professionals and skilled hackers migrate to Windows cause shit be broken[/b], my own attempt was a hassle to set up and ended up actually crashing the file browser every 20 seconds. The GUI is but a pale cardboard front that does nothing to hide the need for complicated command line and technical fiddling. That isn't working in any way.[/QUOTE] [citation needed] [editline]22nd November 2010[/editline] Any other "professionals" than professional office rats.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;26228001][citation needed][/QUOTE] I suppose I could be considered citation, I use Server 2003 as my main operating system now, but still keep Linux systems set up.
What is so special about Linux?
It is increadibly efficient and stable.
[QUOTE=4RT1LL3RY;26219145]Will you guys quit the freaking Linux bullshitting? Oh well when content is away. You seem to not know the difference between embedded and linux. Android isn't linux, its fucking Android. Just because its open source doesn't mean its linux, its not designed for x86 machines; mostly ARM architecture processors. A hardware implementation is much better at a specific role then software. You don't need Operating Systems for many different things, its the lazy way to do it. There is a reason fixed function processors exist, to do one thing really well. If it will only do a certain thing and won't change what it does based on what its given it doesn't need an OS. if it interfaces with humans in a non-direct way it usually has an OS. Its amazing the stuff you can make to do a good that uses zero or minimal software when you have an FPGA. Sorry I just get really peeved when people say that embedded software is the same as linux. If you ever mess with an ardunio you aren't using linux, same with a PIC, or most any other microprocessor that lacks the x86 instruction set. Special projects withstanding, just because you can put linux on any consumer device doesn't mean its better. A microwave with an OS isn't better then a pure hardware implementation.[/QUOTE] Those all indeed run Linux. x86 isn't the only thing Linux runs on; are you thinking of Windows?
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26229238]I suppose I could be considered citation, I use Server 2003 as my main operating system now, but still keep Linux systems set up.[/QUOTE] Not a professional
Well, one Tuomo V of some notoriety did, and there's dozens of collections of general shit about Linux on places such as the linux haters blog etc. Where for example I read one story of a sysadmin who was running linux domestically and his wife tried to print over the network. Cue the horrors.
If it wasn't for PC gaming and having Windows as standard, I wouldn't be using it.
[QUOTE=BmB;26230759]Well, one Tuomo V of some notoriety did, and there's dozens of collections of general shit about Linux on places such as the linux haters blog etc. Where for example I read one story of a sysadmin who was running linux domestically and his wife tried to print over the network. Cue the horrors.[/QUOTE] And yet again, someone saying the main problem of a OS/program is, it doesn't match perfectly with Microsoft, it is like saying the problem with my 360 is it doesn't play wii games,
[QUOTE=edja007;26230257]Not a professional[/QUOTE] I could be considered the classical definition of hacker. really most any current or former linux user could be.
Microshit, nice job of talking out of your asses. The only fucking reason I still use windows is because I can't run Steam on it. And i'm thinking about reinstalling my Windows partition (I've got the ninite installer ready) and shrinking that partition to about 400 gb. Linux makes me feel closer to my computer, plus I like using the command line for stuff anyway. [editline]23rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=edja007;26217405]When no one uses it is pretty much the end[/QUOTE] this, looked what happened to OS/2
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;26196690]Probably going to get rated a million boxes and this post will end up in the computer illiteracy thread, but i stand up for my beliefs. I agree with Microsoft.[/QUOTE] bitches just sad coz they don't know bout my nano ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;26196690]Probably going to get rated a million boxes and this post will end up in the computer illiteracy thread, but i stand up for my beliefs. I agree with Microsoft.[/QUOTE] is the fatfatfuck butthurt because he failed to install ubuntu because he rebooted while the install was running, which resulted in his HD being nuked
ITT: Little to no-one who actually has an IT job, 93% of this thread is speculations.
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;26237367]ITT: Little to no-one who actually has an IT job, 93% of this thread is speculations.[/QUOTE] 94
JPL supports unix, all their picture-crunching computers run a unix distro. I went to JPL the day of the Hartley 2 flyby and the pictures were screencaps of the desktop and what do I see? Ubuntu style bars.
holy shit this is fucking hilarious
[QUOTE=eXeC64;26227462]Holy fuck. Your logic is flawless. McDonalds clearly make the best food in the world because they sell so many Happy Meals. If only someone had told me "sales = quality of product" sooner. :sigh:[/QUOTE] For their market they are the best. The "Free Enterprise Linux" is on the way out the, Open source community will keep 10,000 un-unified distros out there no one will give a shit about [editline]22nd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26237456]94[/QUOTE] 95
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;26238005]For their market they are the best. The "Free Enterprise Linux" is on the way out the, Open source community will keep 10,000 un-unified distros out there no one will give a shit about [editline]22nd November 2010[/editline] 95[/QUOTE] Can't win the argument? Start throwing accusations about the people doing the arguing, brilliant.
[QUOTE=nekosune;26238071]Can't win the argument? Start throwing accusations about the people doing the arguing, brilliant.[/QUOTE] What on earth are you talking about. Go to an enterprise most of their production servers will be RH/Opensuse (novell) and then something like centos on the back for dev work
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;26238165]What on earth are you talking about. Go to an enterprise most of their production servers will be RH/Opensuse (novell) and then something like centos on the back for dev work[/QUOTE] ... Okay please excuse my momentary moment of stupidity. I do not know what came over me here.
[QUOTE=nekosune;26238205]The place I work at? using linux way before I got there, likely will be way after.[/QUOTE] Red Hat is linux.... stop talking out your ass
[QUOTE=nekosune;26238205]The place I work at? using linux way before I got there, likely will be way after.[/QUOTE] red hat, opensuse, and centos are all linux
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;26238165]What on earth are you talking about. Go to an enterprise most of their production servers will be RH/Opensuse (novell) and then something like centos on the back for dev work[/QUOTE] Are you saying that's a bad thing?
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;26238218]stop talking out your ass[/QUOTE] I tried that once but it just sounded like a fart
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;26238249]Are you saying that's a bad thing?[/QUOTE] No it isn't a bad thing hell I love working on RH, very streamlined. But it is not true linux, you get charged yearly for a subscription, for updates and such. It is like the article is saying, the Enterprise Linux is not following the ideology of Open source, free as in free beer, user created multi shared etc. [editline]22nd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26238259]I tried that once but it just sounded like a fart[/QUOTE] Not addressing you, I'm talking to the dude who has no idea what linux is obviously
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