General Linux Chat and Small Questions v.2

[esalaka]

[QUOTE=Wyzard;30246220]metacity (fallback UI).[/QUOTE]

Metacity + gnome-panel, mind you

[Wyzard]

plus nautilus, plus gnome-settings-daemon, plus gconfd, plus dbus-session, plus a bunch of other things that make up a GNOME desktop. That's why the option at the login screen is for choosing a session rather than a window manager.

(Many people seem to think that GNOME is a window manager. It isn't.)

[esalaka]

I was just referring to the fact that the GUI consists of gnome-panel AND a window manager, not just one or the other.

[Wyzard]

Oh, you meant that metacity+gnome-panel are the counterparts to gnome-shell in the fallback UI, even though they're not the whole GNOME session. That's true.

[Rashy]

I keep trying to install OpenSUSE on an old PC but it takes ages to load anything, it got stuck on loading the kernel for an hour. Is this just down to a slow CD drive?

[snuwoods]

opensuse isn't the lightest distro.

[Rashy]

[QUOTE=snuwoods;30257438]opensuse isn't the lightest distro.[/QUOTE]

I just installed Ubuntu and Gnome 3 instead and I'm loving it.

[L1B3R4710N]

Anyone know anywhere I can easily get a recent sysutils tarball? Trying to get zsh working on my iPod touch and I need chsh to set it as default (I think).

[Niteshifter]

Here's my adventures so far that only resulted in doing nothing. I finally finished the Gentoo install, so I rm -rf my system and bring up Gentoo's tree. I then found out that you can't do this while you're still using the machine that's rm -rf'ing (I already knew this and it should have been obvious to me). So, I boot up an arch livecd, mount everything and finish the job.

After my reboot, everything worked, but unfortunately, there's lingering bugs that the fine people making this distro have forgotten to fix, so after some searching online, I symlink the files that need to be symlinked, restart and I'm good to go. Once I get in, I try the internet and found out I couldn't connect, no problem. I just use dhcpcd eth0 and nothing. I get a timeout error. After multiple attempts, I boot back into the livecd and find it works perfectly for it, so I decide to reinstall arch (the Gentoo tree is still here, my /home partition is saved and I already knew my installed stuff).

After reinstalling arch and trying to connect to the internet, once again nothing. After many livecd reboots and chrooting, I find out that in the livecd, eth0 is activated and when I'm in a distro eth1 is activated.

So, here I am, back where I started with about 7 hours wasted.

[PvtCupcakes]

[QUOTE=L1B3R4710N;30272837]Anyone know anywhere I can easily get a recent sysutils tarball? Trying to get zsh working on my iPod touch and I need chsh to set it as default (I think).[/QUOTE]

You can edit /etc/passwd to change your shell. I think that's all chsh does.

Just find your username and change the shell.
This is what mine looks like:

cupcakes:x:500:500:Pvt Cupcakes:/home/cupcakes:/bin/zsh

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Niteshifter;30278508]Here's my adventures so far that only resulted in doing nothing. I finally finished the Gentoo install, so I rm -rf my system and bring up Gentoo's tree. I then found out that you can't do this while you're still using the machine that's rm -rf'ing (I already knew this and it should have been obvious to me). So, I boot up an arch livecd, mount everything and finish the job.

After my reboot, everything worked, but unfortunately, there's lingering bugs that the fine people making this distro have forgotten to fix, so after some searching online, I symlink the files that need to be symlinked, restart and I'm good to go. Once I get in, I try the internet and found out I couldn't connect, no problem. I just use dhcpcd eth0 and nothing. I get a timeout error. After multiple attempts, I boot back into the livecd and find it works perfectly for it, so I decide to reinstall arch (the Gentoo tree is still here, my /home partition is saved and I already knew my installed stuff).

After reinstalling arch and trying to connect to the internet, once again nothing. After many livecd reboots and chrooting, I find out that in the livecd, eth0 is activated and when I'm in a distro eth1 is activated.

So, here I am, back where I started with about 7 hours wasted.[/QUOTE]

With the networking thing, it sounds like you didn't include your network drivers in the kernel.
The kernel config is tricky to get right sometimes.

[Lyokanthrope]

Oh neat, someone finally set up a PPA for E17 SVN packages for Ubuntu/Mint users :v:
[url]https://launchpad.net/~merlwiz79/+archive/e17-svn[/url]

[Niteshifter]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30282915]With the networking thing, it sounds like you didn't include your network drivers in the kernel.
The kernel config is tricky to get right sometimes.[/QUOTE]

Probably. There's always those one or two things I forget.

[esalaka]

I once felt like compiling my own kernel.

Then I tried the prompt configuration program. :saddowns:
(You know, the one that prompts for [B]every possible option[/B] one at a time.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

I should really get that conf done some day.

[PvtCupcakes]

[QUOTE=esalaka;30287043]I once felt like compiling my own kernel.

Then I tried the prompt configuration program. :saddowns:
(You know, the one that prompts for [B]every possible option[/B] one at a time.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

I should really get that conf done some day.[/QUOTE]

Use this

make menuconfig

It lets you navigate through the options yourself and choose what you want

[esalaka]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30287362]Use this

make menuconfig

It lets you navigate through the options yourself and choose what you want[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know about that, it was just that after pressing y and n for half an hour I didn't want to see any configuration options for the next few days. And then I just kinda forgot.

Oh, and bet you can't guess which browser I'm using.

[Niteshifter]

I've got an odd problem that occured when I used xrandr to get my resolution back to normal. I used this command and I end up getting this weird overlapping double thing whenever I maximise a terminal window or go fullscreen on a youtube video. I couldn't find an answer online since I have no idea what this problem is. (The text is just a ls -R of an extracted tarball)

xrandr -s 0

[quote][img]http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad43/Portal2121/bugthing.png[/img][/quote]

Edit: It appears to have been a kernel problem. Got a new kernel up and everything's running fine.

[macerator]

Has anyone here had any success with Kernel Video Modes?
I need them to work so I can switch off my discrete graphics card in my laptop so my battery lasts longer than 2 hours. I'm on ubuntu 11.04 now, but I'll change distros if someone else has had better luck with a different (not Gentoo) one. I don't want to use windows on this laptop at school this fall.

[PvtCupcakes]

[QUOTE=macerator;30300648]Has anyone here had any success with Kernel Video Modes?
I need them to work so I can switch off my discrete graphics card in my laptop so my battery lasts longer than 2 hours. I'm on ubuntu 11.04 now, but I'll change distros if someone else has had better luck with a different (not Gentoo) one. I don't want to use windows on this laptop at school this fall.[/QUOTE]

Since you said something about switching off the discrete graphics card, does that mean you have one of those laptops with two GPUs that you can switch between?

I saw some stuff about that going into the kernel. It looks like it's been around since 2.6.35
In the kernel it was called VGA Switcheroo. :v:

[url]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics[/url]

[editline]7th June 2011[/editline]

Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 will work without changing the kernel by the way.

[Waterrmelonn]

Can anybody recommend a netbook distro? I'm using Ubuntu right now.

[Scoob]

[QUOTE=Waterrmelonn;30302786]Can anybody recommend a netbook distro? I'm using Ubuntu right now.[/QUOTE]

Use Arch

[macerator]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30301342]Since you said something about switching off the discrete graphics card, does that mean you have one of those laptops with two GPUs that you can switch between?

I saw some stuff about that going into the kernel. It looks like it's been around since 2.6.35
In the kernel it was called VGA Switcheroo. :v:

[url]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics[/url]

[editline]7th June 2011[/editline]

Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 will work without changing the kernel by the way.[/QUOTE]
I'll see if that works this time around. Last time it didn't

[Anthophobian]

Hnng, I have 50 gigs of music that is the only obstacle keeping me away from switching to Linux. I really don't want to dish out for an external hard disk, nor do I want to burn an entire stack of DVDs. Any way I can install Linux without wiping my complete HDD?

[esalaka]

[QUOTE=Anthophobian;30306203]Hnng, I have 50 gigs of music that is the only obstacle keeping me away from switching to Linux. I really don't want to dish out for an external hard disk, nor do I want to burn an entire stack of DVDs. Any way I can install Linux without wiping my complete HDD?[/QUOTE]

Yes.

You repartition your disk by first making your original partition(s) smaller and then creating a few new ones for your Linux system.

Actually I'll just let someone explain it better.

[HubmaN]

[QUOTE=esalaka;30306324]Yes.

You repartition your disk by first making your original partition(s) smaller and then creating a few new ones for your Linux system.

Actually I'll just let someone explain it better.[/QUOTE]

Repartition your disk, install GRUB onto the drive with /boot on it (just to keep things together, really), and then find a guide on how to add a volume's bootloader manually to NTLDR.

[Doritos_Man]

[QUOTE=HubmaN;30309137]Repartition your disk, install GRUB onto the drive with /boot on it (just to keep things together, really), and then find a guide on how to add a volume's bootloader manually to NTLDR.[/QUOTE]

Before you repartition you will want to defrag to make sure your files don't become corrupted.

[Boris-B]

You'll still want to make a backup. If you really care about that music you want to back it up no matter what. This is even more true if you're resizing a partition because you're risking losing data.

[The Riddler]

Yo here's the deal this time. I installed Commodore 64 and PET emulators to dick around with, but unfortunately they're missing Rom Packages. I'm still working on my bash scripting skills, so can anyone help me in downloading the packages?

[Giraffen93]

Is it worth updating my 10.10 server to natty?

[esalaka]

Is 10.10 LTS

Just use the latest LTS whatever it is

[Lego399_]

Most awesome script ever

#!/bin/bash
string="LOL"
append="OL"
for ((n=1; n<$1; n++)); do
string="${string}${append}"
done
echo ${string}