This thread needs to be closed by a mod or something, every point has been made several times over. At this point in time it's either random idle talk or someone not reading a post of this thread and responding to the thread title.
[QUOTE=advil0;32692140]I've never had an issue with heat on my Macbook Pro, ever.
I've played the most demanding games I can throw at it for hours on end, sure it gets hot, but it has never overheated for me. I've heard some people overheat theirs, but it's a rare case that it happens as far as I know.[/QUOTE]
Your laptop is more likely than not, throttling GPU and CPU to prevent hitting a critical thermal point. Active fan dissipation is pretty necessary for the hardware that the Macbook Pro uses at it's top end.
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=joe_sandwich;32691001]Macs are not designed to always use the newest hardware; they are designed for creative professionals and generic users who do not normally want to mess around with all the little things that make a PC fan boy all giddy. Most users really don't care about messing with their motherboard or CPU and will, in fact, not need to since the average update for computers rests at around three to five years per person. In three years, hardware generally progresses enough the point where it is better to get a completely new motherboard, RAM, GPU and CPU, which basically is a whole new computer minus HD, PSU, and case. [/QUOTE]
And seeing as how the iMac is the only reasonably priced desktop mac with decent CPU power to get things done, I'd say I'd rather be able to keep a potentially extremely expensive monitor, web cam, speakers, and a half-decent GPU. That's easily a savings of 800-1000 dollars, as a decent P-IPS monitor is around 500+ new, a GPU around 200, webcam and speakers fill up the rest. If you're okay with throwing all that out, that's fine. I'll be pocketing the savings on things that matter.
I'm also pretty sure "creative professionals" don't want to sit around for years on end waiting for their work to compile. Generic users would be better served by a cheap Windows PC or even an Asus Eee Pad Transformer/Slider. At any rate, I don't see Macs being used by massive companies servers or anything remotely mission-critical. Windows Server is, and so are Linux distros like Debian.
[QUOTE=joe_sandwich;32691001]Truthfully, I grew up on a mac and used windows since windows 2000 came out, but now I find that I've switched back to macs that I enjoy them much more. Yea, they aren't the newest or coolest technology, but the hardware is decent and has around the normal specs that a consumer, iMac, or professional, Mac pro, would buy get from a windows computer. Not to mention that I find the user interface way more intuitive and standardized than windows.[/QUOTE]
Around the normal specs for a huge markup because it's an aluminum case. Windows is about as standardized as it can get. There really isn't a difference in user interfaces because any time an application is different from another people bitch and whine. Not a big deal, Windows is pretty easy to use.
[QUOTE=joe_sandwich;32691001]I understand that people have concerns with the price, but the costs of designing a product with a tight integration of hardware and software - which increases performance, prevents crashes, and improves security - accounts for a majority of the price markup. Not to mention that the parts used are high quality and aesthetically pleasing and make really durable computers. Personally, I am willing to pay the higher price for my apple products since they have actually increased my productivity by around fifty percent.[/QUOTE]
And my productivity with a Windows computer is right up there because I haven't encountered a single BSOD in years. This is with a computer from 4 years ago on XP SP3. My case looks great, and my internals are actually high quality instead of the generic bullshit that Apple puts in their computers like all OEMs do. If you want high quality, you roll your own.
[QUOTE=joe_sandwich;32691001]Also, PC = personal computers. Macs are PCs.[/QUOTE]
Of course, but would you really want me to be writing out "x86-64 IBM PC compatible with BIOS/UEFI running Windows or Linux"?
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisBrad;32691055]When you buy a laptop, you shouldn't be expecting to upgrade it aside from some RAM increases and HDD switched. Personally, I keep my home computer for power and upgrading and I use my laptop for portability. Although I do think it would be nice for the macs to be upgraded easier, but I don't think its completely necessary[/QUOTE]
I think it's pretty necessary to have a mac desktop that isn't astronomically expensive and upgradeable. The Mac Pro is great, but the iMac is piss-poor for a desktop.
[QUOTE=thisBrad;32691055]Also, from my experience OSX requires less hardware power to run, so you don't always need the latest and greatest hardware just to keep it running smoothly[/QUOTE]
From my experience, it doesn't matter anyway because Vista shoved up the average spec of computers so high this is no longer relevant. Phenom II X4 at 2.8 GHz with 4 GB of RAM and a half-terrabyte hard drive can be found in computers costing like 600 dollars, and it will run Windows 7 and Windows 8 perfectly fine if the graphics card is there.
I hate how I can't use my wireless mouse and play a game at the same time on my MBP as the shitty foxconn motherboard inside is incapable of providing full power to both the gpu and the USB ports at the same time
[QUOTE=meppers;32729052]I hate how I can't use my wireless mouse and play a game at the same time on my MBP as the shitty foxconn motherboard inside is incapable of providing full power to both the gpu and the USB ports at the same time[/QUOTE]
You're kidding, it really does that?
Why are these themed threads so prevalent lately?
[QUOTE=Banshee FrieNd;32731694]Why are these themed threads so prevalent lately?[/QUOTE]
because apple hate
[QUOTE=kaukassus;32732030]because apple hate[/QUOTE]
And because there's a lot of shit flinging around Apple, lawsuits and so on. I don't "hate" (in that sense at least)Apple, but I find there business and general "attitude" to be a pile of shit. They use foxconn for many of their needs (so do many other PC manufacturers, but I don't see a lot of love for them in the H&S sub-forum anyway), a factory which generally doesn't have very good quality, and I dislike it more simply because of how the workers of the factory is treated. Yeah, it's China, but there's definitely better factories.
If you like their products or not, that's completely subjective, and therefore not something you can really discuss based on cold facts. My "hate" has nothing to do with me disliking their products, really.
Let this thread Die.
[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;32731172]You're kidding, it really does that?[/QUOTE]
my mouse will not work if it is more than 3 inches away from the receiver if i play a game.
if i quit a game the mouse magically works again, and it does this for any gpu intensive software
it wouldn't be that bad if they had a usb port on the right side of the laptop
I suppose that's [I]one[/I] way to extend battery life on a laptop.
Have you confirmed this is infact an issue with the MBP by using a powered USB hub? - That's quite a "feature" that needs investigation (If it hasn't already)
I personally hate apple for a few reasons:
(And I'm not bandwagoning, these are from personal experiences)
--The lack of customization in OS X and iOS.
--Overly expensive for dated internal PC parts.
--Proprietary, non-standard cables and connectors.
--Generic-branded cables, cases, and adapters cost just as much as the retail Apple branded ones, often worse in the quality department.
--Steve Jobs restricts devices and OS features. (oops, he's dead now, LOL.)
[QUOTE=P320;32740066](oops, he's dead now, LOL.)[/QUOTE]
omg sum1's ded! LMAO so funny xDXDXDXD
[QUOTE=P320;32740066]--Proprietary, non-standard cables and connectors.[/QUOTE]
Apple doesn't use proprietary cables/connectors anymore besides it's 30-pin iPod Dock connector, which is pretty much standard in the way that you can buy the cord pretty much anywhere.
The only other one is Magsafe, which is a connector that benefits the user, so I don't see a problem with it being proprietary to be honest.
[QUOTE=P320;32740066]I personally hate apple for a few reasons:
(And I'm not bandwagoning, these are from personal experiences)
--The lack of customization in OS X and iOS.
--Overly expensive for dated internal PC parts.
--Proprietary, non-standard cables and connectors.
--Generic-branded cables, cases, and adapters cost just as much as the retail Apple branded ones, often worse in the quality department.
[B]--Steve Jobs restricts devices and OS features. (oops, he's dead now, LOL.)[/B][/QUOTE]
I was about to rate agree until I saw this.
You do know that Steve Jobs invented the iPad back in 1990 but decided to put it into storage because he wanted to work on other stuff, he felt that the iPad just wasn't ready yet at that time.
So he released macs, iPods, iPhones, and all that good jazz.
Steve then put everything that the company knew about the iPods and iPhones along with the macs into the iPad and released it.
If he had released it in the 90's it would've changed the world today as we know it. Probably have a bit more advanced stuff today. But you cannot disagree that Steve Jobs releasing apples and mac jumpstarted the technology race for every company to make the greatest and best.
[QUOTE=Sykez;32745432]You do know that Steve Jobs invented the iPad back in 1990 but decided to put it into storage because he wanted to work on other stuff, he felt that the iPad just wasn't ready yet at that time.
So he released macs, iPods, iPhones, and all that good jazz.
Steve then put everything that the company knew about the iPods and iPhones along with the macs into the iPad and released it.
If he had released it in the 90's it would've changed the world today as we know it. Probably have a bit more advanced stuff today. But you cannot disagree that Steve Jobs releasing apples and mac jumpstarted the technology race for every company to make the greatest and best.[/QUOTE]
Haha what the fuck, are you high or something? Really, that is some of the most far out things I've heard said about Steve Jobs.
[url]http://imgur.com/gallery/76RkJ?original[/url]
Proof people only give a shit about Jobs becaouse of shiny iOS toys that boos their social status.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1132367?p=32777029#post32777029[/url]
This a good enough reason? Fucking Apple trying to monopolise everything.
To be fair, Samsung's tablet does look an AWFUL lot like the iPad. Down to pretty much every style choice on it.
[QUOTE=advil0;32784438]To be fair, Samsung's tablet does look an AWFUL lot like the iPad. Down to pretty much every style choice on it.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/03/samsungpictureframe.jpg[/IMG]
It's samsung's design, one of their photoframes circa 2006.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;32779421][url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1132367?p=32777029#post32777029[/url]
This a good enough reason? Fucking Apple trying to monopolise everything.[/QUOTE]
Nothings a good enough reason for Apple fans.
I own a macbook, and have owned a few different iPhones.
The thing I dislike most about apple is their need to always lock stuff down, and dictate how the user should use it. They also keep coming up with new ways to soak the money out of ya.
Like Snow Leopard, or Lion, which in my opinion should have been service pack upgrades...
I particularly have beef with Lion which messed up a lot of freeware apps. Some of them apps that haven't been updated for a long time, but the developers came out of hiding to throw them in the new appstore with a pricetag.
I'm just thankful laptops were invented before the concept of these new ultra locked down wonder devices, could you imagine all of apple's products locked down as hard as the ipad/phone?? Nothankyou.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1134224[/url]
Steve Jobs appears to have some considerable hatred for Android as well. It goes both ways, really, other than this guy seems to be willing to use a lot of money on it.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;32903180][url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1134224[/url]
Steve Jobs appears to have some considerable hatred for Android as well. It goes both ways, really, other than this guy seems to be willing to use a lot of money on it.[/QUOTE]
He sounds like a fucking psychopath
[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;32784592][IMG]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/03/samsungpictureframe.jpg[/IMG]
It's samsung's design, one of their photoframes circa 2006.[/QUOTE]
My entire opinion on Samsung's designing has been reversed.
Apple, go away.
[QUOTE=ManningQB18;32907324]My entire opinion on Samsung's designing has been reversed.
Apple, go away.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to people for rating this guy winner, as it seems a bit fanboyish or whatever, but this is the first time I've actually seen anyone react to this picture. I'm not saying everybody supporting Apple is in denial or something, but I'm sure almost everybody has seen this before (I posted it a few pages back, actually), and I've never seen anybody react to it, really.
Why.
My friend Matt today just gave me the best reason to buy a Mac [b]ever[/b]
" Well they cost a lot of money so they must be good! "
Poor sod can't even find a real reason
[QUOTE=Elfy;33196313]Why.
My friend Matt today just gave me the best reason to buy a Mac [b]ever[/b]
" Well they cost a lot of money so they must be good! "
Poor sod can't even find a real reason[/QUOTE]
So that invalidates any reasonable reason someone can come up with?
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;33198723]So that invalidates any reasonable reason someone can come up with?[/QUOTE]
He's being sarcastic. No need to create high tensions in a discussion about consumer products.
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