Android Thread - Give It Up, Headphones Jacks are Dead.
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Flagship-tier phone? Poco F1. You can either use dual-SIM or expand its storage, but I don't think you can use both at the same time.
Huh, I thought the Pocophone was a budget offering from Xiaomi. Not sure where I got that, looks good.
Thanks!
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I usually install a pure version of Android ASAP, but MIUI really isn't that bad. I just wish you could disable the buttload of stock apps that it comes with. You need an account to use a lot of them, no way am I signing up for that.
As far as audio goes, it uses the Snapdragon 845 onboard DAC so it's pretty standard. If you use a pair of extra-sensitive IEMs, though, pretty much every phone is going to sound terrible. The extra sensitivity means you need to turn your volume down to like 25% and that kills the signal to noise ratio since volume adjustment is digital. I'm pretty sure you can turn the analog gain down if you're rooted, but I wasn't able to get it to work on my last phone (one that touted an audiophile DAC) and I haven't rooted this one yet either.
I second the part about having to sign up to use almost everything. One of the apps I like the most is Mi Drop, which creates a wifi connection for others to connect to and you can share files at fast speeds. I also installed Blokada (I haven't rooted the phone yet) and most of the times it'll block Xiaomi tracking URLs. If you want to download an update via the updater app, just disable Blokada for the time being, download the file, enable it again, and you're good to go.
I don't remember what I did but I disabled something about Mi Account for every app, which means every Xiaomi app I open gives me a warning saying I must agree to the terms, but I just click Close and the app works.
Which are the phones with the best battery runtime? At least 6hrs+ of SOT, I've been looking at the Galaxy A8+, Xiaomi Mi A1 and the J7 2017 (althought it might be going out of stock soon), preferiably a phone with a headphone jack and SD card support, and if it's another samsung one thats guarenteed to get the Pie update
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Not wanting to be that dumb guy that recommends the same phone over and over, but I got 7h42m SOT on the Poco F1 with Oreo. I haven't reached that long with Pie yet (something was wrong with Google Photos so it kept wasting my battery, I reached the end of the day with 3% battery. In Pie the max I reached was 5h SOT and it was at 30%.)
The Xiaomi Mi A2 can get 6 hours of SOT, and the redmi note 5 ai can get to 8 hours or more of SOT and has a headphone jack and expandable storage, though you're stuck with micro USB there, those two are the only ones I find myself recommending to people
aint too sure on the A2 because of the lack of headphone jack and no sd card, i also heard that the battery wasn't that great since it has a snapdragon 660
the F1 was one of my considerations but i probably wont be using the SD845 at its max since games n stuff waste a lot of battery
i also heard it had odd problems with the backlight, touch latency and weird software stuff involving the notch
This thing feels like it weighs half a pound, the battery is massive.
The absolute best you're gonna find is the Xiaomi Mi Max 3, with a 5500 mAh battery and an SD636.
But it's also absolutely ginormous.
jesus christ i want a phone not a tablet thats gonna be a pass brother
i used for a short time a Galaxy A9 and i thought that shit was unwieldly
Yeah, 6.9" is pretty excessive. It's taller than a Nexus 6 and that phone is already unwieldy.
OH YEAH if you know any other phones with AMOLED screens and big batteries list them too, main reason why i consider the A8+ is the 3500mAh battery and the screen letting me use dark themes to keep some more juice
Woo got a galaxy s8 for $88 brand new
Fuck yes my dudes.
As a dude who buys whatever smartphone works at Wal-Mart, how in depth can these things get.
Because...
This here goes way over my head. I've never heard of any of this. These things aren't sold in the Mart are they?
Nope, they're not domestically sold in the US at all, you can only get them through imports (Gearbest, etc)
IMO xiaomi and other Chinese OEMs should be left for turbo nerds
This, they're pretty cheap where I live and everyone and their mother uses Xiaomi phones, that or Huawei/Aquaris
My friend got a Huawei (don't remember the model) and he kept saying chinese phones are so good. I was already looking at Xiaomi for a while, until my father had to buy a new phone because his Moto X Force died after he accidentally short-circuited it while testing an amplifier circuit.
He asked me for recommendations and I said "well if it was me I'd risk and buy a Poco F1, it's cheap and good". He didn't know what to buy, he was also looking for a S9+. Until a few days later, he figured that with the price of a S9+ he could buy 1.5 Poco F1s, so he went for it, buying one for me as well, for slightly a bit more than the cost of the S9+.
As Linus said in his video: with the price of a Samsung Note 9, you can buy Poco F1s for all of your family
Really amazes me how these phones are cheap and good.
I have the Mi A2, I can get 6 hours of SOT all the time but I don't normally let my battery fully discharge so I don't quite get there, the SD660 is more efficient than 636, but otherwise it's basically the same other than the 660 having a much better GPU, so if you play any games from time to time, the 660 is a better choice
this was my first android one phone, the lack of a headphone jack really bothered me at first, but I'm using my old m7 for music anyway since the sound there is way superior
android one was kinda disappointing to me, it isn't what you expect, it's not a budget pixel, it's just barebones AOSP, I found myself immediately jumping to a custom ROM the moment one was available, and if I'm gonna do that, why bother getting an android one phone in the first place.
MIUI is a love/hate relationship, it's a heavily modified version of android, to the point you can't tell the difference between MIUI 10 based on Oreo and MIUI 10 based Pie, but it actually performes pretty well, you're not losing any performance because of it, and to be honest it has some pretty nice features, though you'll got lots and lots of apps that you'll never use (remember this is actually how Xiaomi makes their profit) but you can just disable them
so the only real advantage of android one is the monthly security updates, the OEM being forced to upgrade it for at least 2 major android versions and support it with security patches for 3 years
if the note 5 ai had a type-c port instead of micro usb I would've definitely got it and slap a custom rom on it.
but damn isn't the camera great on the A2
have you had any problems with storage being slow? i remember reading something on reddit about it being sluggish at times
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/9ygdyt/xiaomi_mi_a2_users_are_bugged_with_laggy_emmc/
oh and did the FP Reader battery drain get fixed too?
In that bug report people are confusing two "problems" to be one
The main one affects performance, wiping cache in say Chrome will make the device slow and might cause a restart, I haven't faced this specific problem myself but wiping cache does take some time, this one is 100% confirmed kernel bug, as wiping cache in custom roms or with a custom kernel is instant
The other problem is write speed being slow, relatively, I got this one, using A1 SD bench or andro bench, write speed is always around 30 MB/s, still faster than my laptop's hard drive anyway, it's emmc storage, you get what you pay for, but some people are getting up to 200 MB/s write speeds, I've seen many reports saying this problem doesn't exist on the 6/128 model.
Keep in mind Xiaomi uses different parts in the same phone, there are two different FP sensor manufacturers, multiple display manufacturers, and multiple emmc manufacturers, usually if there are multiple versions of a phone only the worst would make it to my country, the second problem seems to be a hardware one, but in reality you're unlikely to notice it outside of a benchmark with a big test file.
The FP sensor bug was fixed in october
The list of Samsung phones that are getting Pie was released (also the S9 and S9+ got Pie today in Europe , Asia (iirc) and the Middle East)
Galaxy S9 (January 2019)
Galaxy S9+ (January 2019)
Galaxy Note9 (February 2019)
Galaxy S8 (March 2019)
Galaxy S8+ (March 2019)
Galaxy Note8 (March 2019)
Galaxy A8 2018 (April 2019)
Galaxy A8+ 2018 (April 2019)
Galaxy A7 2018 (April 2019)
Galaxy A9 2018 (April 2019)
Galaxy Tab S4 10.5 (April 2019)
Galaxy J4 (May 2019)
Galaxy J4+ (May 2019)
Galaxy J6 (May 2019)
Galaxy J6+ (May 2019)
Galaxy A8 Star (May 2019)
Galaxy J7 2017 (July 2019)
Galaxy J7 Duo (August 2019)
Galaxy Xcover4 (September 2019)
Galaxy J3 2017 (September 2019)
Galaxy Tab S3 9.7 (September 2019)
Galaxy Tab A 2017 (October 2019)
Galaxy Tab Active2 (October 2019)
Galaxy Tab A 10.5 (October 2019)
The A8+ is in the list which just pushes me further to that one, really wanted One UI
shame that the S7 isn't getting it tbh, but oh well.
yeah the S and A series only gets 2 years of mayor updates (which sadly also means the A8's Pie update will be the last because Samsung in their infinite wisdom released it with 7.1.1) but at least you get an extra year of security patches
i think the S7 has lineage?
Totally forgot to mention another reason why i want a galaxy is because u can use knox for system wide adblock which is my n°1 annoyance when it comes to web browsing on my phone
It's not that great, every month or so one Knox AdBlock app dies, and another pops up. This is because all the developers get cease and desist letters. To activate any of them, you have to recompile the app to give it a unique name, so Samsung doesn't block it on your phone. Also,you need to get a Knox developer license. That isn't bad in and of itself, but you have to do it every three months. That's more often than it sounds.
And to top it all off it doesn't even block properly. I've been frustratingly staring at ads wondering why on earth they got past the AdBlock.
I've gotten so pissed with Knox adblocks on my s8+ that I just went and rooted it.
If you don't want to root you can use Blokada. It sets up a VPN connection and blocks your ads. It's also easy to setup.
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