PC Building V4 - "ok SSDs got cheap, now do RAM next"

[AtomicSans]

Ryzen 2600X, no manual overclock. In my stress testing it seems to not want to exceed 115W.

[Levelog]

I don't foresee an issue with that. The only way I've ever been able to get completely full system utilization anyways is F@H so it's not like you're going to hit stress test levels on both components in any other reasonable situation. Even if you do surpass 520w it shouldn't be an issue. That's rated for continuous, and any other company who uses that platform actually rates it at 550w.

[AtomicSans]

Damn, big respect for Seasonic in that case. Knowingly under-advertising your product to ensure the best stability within advertised margins is pretty cool of them to do.

[Glitchvid]

If you want some more in-depth information:
Computer components use multiple different voltage levels, so PSUs have different "rails" for these voltages.

These voltages (for standard ATX power supplies) are:
12V
5V
3.3V

Each voltage has it's own "rail".

Now, since 12V is the primary voltage high-power devices use (CPU, GPU) it's the one that has to deliver the most wattage.

The issue comes when instead of using a single rail (that can ostensibly use all the wattage it has specified on the unit), multiple rails (12V) are used.

The first rail that is wired to the 24+EPS might be speced for 300 Watts (25 A), and then a second rail wired to the PCIe power that has 250 Watts (~21 A), and shared among the rest of the 12V connectors.

That means people might expect this theoretical 700 Watt (because we have other rails to power, plus efficiency) PSU to power a GPU that eats 250 Watts, because their CPU is only using 125 Watts of that "total power". But instead the PSU will probably shut off because too much is being drawn from the underpowered rail.

PSU manufacturers do this because it can give them better ripple control, so and can end up being cheaper.

As long as you stick to good PSU manufacturers, and pay attention to the rail outputs where specified, you should be fine.

[AtomicSans]

*snap* Yep. This one's going in my 'genuinely helpful information' compilation.

[Glitchvid]

Just to clarify a bit, especially on higher end PSUs, multiple/single 12V rails pretty much don't matter unless you're looking for something very specific.

[AtomicSans]

The M12-II's 12V rail outputs 480W so I should be okay.

[meppers]

my EVGA step-up window expires in 9 days, should I step up from a 1070ti to a 1080 ti for $150 plus shipping?
I have a 4k monitor for work stuff and I don't mind how games look at 1440p on it.

the window closes before the RTX stuff comes out.

[Zeos]

Not going to lie, am I putting too much faith in an upgrade to the 2080ti if I already have a regular 1080? (Not TI)?

[Glitchvid]

If you like burning money, go for it.

[Everything]

The only 10-series owners who should look into upgrading to 20-series, are owners of the 3GB 1060 and lower who want to continue maxing new triple-A games.

If you have a 1070 or higher, or have a 1050/1050TI for productivity alone, you should be fine.

[Ancellax]

Would it be worthwhile to get an GT 1030 or a used graphics card from a previous generation?

[Rossy167]

Specifically, I'd recommend going for a used 750ti. My friend's got one, and it can do all the usual eSportsy competitive type games on 60fps and is capable of at least 30 on most modern AAA games on low assuming it's paired with an equivalent or more CPU. Would probably cost you a fair bit less than a GT 1030 too.

[Nitronik]

I'm honestly debating selling my used 1060 6gb and then nabbing a series 1xxx upgrade

[RandomGamer342]

The 1030 is pointless unless you just want more display outputs

[Ancellax]

Thanks guys, I'll look into a used card

[AtomicSans]

Pulling the trigger on an EVGA 1080 FTW2

[AtomicSans]

I don't need a Ti, I'm gaming at 1080p and my CPU probably can't keep up with one anyway.

[DesertFoxZalem5]

It seems like alot of people are going to skip the rtx2000 series.

[AtomicSans]

This is my logic too, I'm upgrading from an R9 380 - pretty much the equivalent of the 1050Ti. So anything I get will absolutely floor me.

[Cheezus]

So I'd like to get an upgrade for my graphics card as it's been a few years and it's struggling a decent amount with some more intense games like X-Plane 11/MSFX and things like that. I've been looking around and I can get a GTX 1080 for $609 CAD or a GTX 1070 for $510 CAD. I've had a lot of people suggest the 1070 because I have a 1080p monitor and most people are saying the 1080 won't be worth it. Is the 1070 a good decision or is there a similar card on the market for a better price?

Here's my current specs for reference if you guys have any other suggestions:

https://i.imgur.com/W2YiUn0.png

[Cheezus]

Idunno I've heard that games like X-Plane will shred a 1060 easily and that's the kind of game I'm going to be playing.

[Vuu]

I have gathered a list... These are the PSU's I'm considering

http://www.lc-power.com/en/product/netzteile/metatron-series/lc8850iii-v23-arkangel/
http://www.raidmax.com/psu_rx-800gh.html
http://www.raidmax.com/psu_rx-1200ae-b.html
http://www.raidmax.com/psu_rx-850ae-b.html
http://www.raidmax.com/psu_rx-800ae-m.html

[Xarxes The Great]

I'm selling a pistol to a co-worker and I'm very tempted to grab this combo, plus some RAM. Thoughts?

Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Dig..

Going from an i5-2500k to that. Is it worth?

[1/4 Life]

2nd CPU with 1st Mobo, but the 1st won't do you bad at all. Looks good.

Was a huge upgrade for me.

[Xarxes The Great]

There's also this option but I don't know what the difference is from the X to the non-X CPU's for Ryzen.

Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Dig..

[Glitchvid]

For 1st gen Ryzen, not too much. The X-versions might OC better, and do come with higher stock clocks, but that's about it. If you plan on OC'ing at all, just get the cheaper non-X version and use the money to get a better cooler/RAM.

For 2nd gen, it makes a bigger difference, since PBR/XFR2 make overclocking the cores almost obsolete, since the CPU (provided it has cooling/power) will basically automatically overclock - so getting X-versions is a good idea here.

[Xarxes The Great]

I'm on Windows 10 Pro btw. Will I need to buy a new key or will it work once I put in my key?

[sekuza009]

[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pdjMMZ]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pdjMMZ/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bddxFT/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-37ghz-8-core-processor-yd270xbgafbox]AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor[/url]  ($319.99 @ Amazon) 
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/shNypg/noctua-nh-d15-se-am4-1402-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-d15-se-am4]Noctua - NH-D15 SE-AM4 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler[/url]  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
[b]Thermal Compound:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CRkwrH/thermal-grizzly-thermal-paste-tgk015r]Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 11.1g Thermal Paste[/url]  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bvdxFT/asus-rog-crosshair-vii-hero-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-crosshair-vii-hero-wi-fi]Asus - ROG Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi) ATX AM4 Motherboard[/url]  ($275.98 @ Newegg) 
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wX7CmG/gskill-flare-x-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gfx]G.Skill - Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory[/url]  ($209.99 @ Newegg) 
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FrH48d/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e500bam]Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dQ66Mp/samsung-860-evo-2tb-25-solid-state-drive-mz-76e2t0bam]Samsung - 860 Evo 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JQNv6h/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11gb-video-card-dual-rtx2080ti-o11g]Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB Video Card[/url]  ($1239.99) 
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4gw7YJ/fractal-design-define-r6-gunmetal-tg-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-def-r6-gy-tg]Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case[/url]  ($144.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7cTPxr/be-quiet-straight-power-11-850w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn284]be quiet! - Straight Power 11 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url]  ($169.90) 
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH48d/microsoft-os-fqc08930]Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DKFXsY/noctua-nf-a15-hs-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a15-hs-pwm-chromaxblackswap]Noctua - NF-A15 HS-PWM chromax.black.swap 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan[/url]  ($26.90 @ Amazon) 
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DKFXsY/noctua-nf-a15-hs-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a15-hs-pwm-chromaxblackswap]Noctua - NF-A15 HS-PWM chromax.black.swap 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan[/url]  ($26.90 @ Amazon) 
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWM323/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap]Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWM323/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap]Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWM323/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap]Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWM323/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap]Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWM323/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap]Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sWM323/noctua-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap-825-cfm-140mm-fan-nf-a14-pwm-chromaxblackswap]Noctua - NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan[/url]  ($24.90 @ Amazon) 
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Nbbp99/acer-monitor-umvh6aa003]Acer - H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XvfmP6/asus-monitor-pg279q]Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B27v6h/ducky-shine-6-wired-standard-keyboard-dksh1608st-buspdwwt1]Ducky - Shine 6 Wired Standard Keyboard[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Mouse:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yKhj4D/logitech-g403-prodigy-wired-optical-mouse-910-004796]Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Headphones:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tZL7YJ/kingston-headphones-khxhscprd]Kingston - HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel  Headset[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Speakers:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y2vRsY/klipsch-speakers-promedia21]Klipsch - ProMedia 2.1 120W 2.1ch Speakers[/url]  (Purchased For $0.00) 
[b]Other:[/b] Noctua NA-HC4 chromax.black heatsink covers ($29.90)
[b]Other:[/b] Noctua NA-SYC1 chromax.black y-cables ($9.90)
[b]Other:[/b] Noctua NA-SEC1 chromax.black 30cm fan extension cables ($9.90)
[b]Other:[/b] Noctua NA-SAVP1 Chromax Anti-Vibration Fan Mount Set - 16 Pack - Black (NA-SAVP1 black) ($6.95)
[b]Other:[/b] Fractal Design USB Upgrade Kit Components Other FD-ACC-CON-D1-M1 ($25.99)
[b]Total:[/b] $2641.07
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-30 21:43 EDT-0400[/i]

[meppers]

the ryzen R5 2600 is faster than that 1600x and costs only $160

AMD's X series cpus are pretty much just factory overclocked versions of their non X counterparts boxed with a bigger cooler. if you are comfortable with cpu overclocking and you want to buy your own cpu cooler there's really no reason to go for the X processors