PC Building V4 - "ok SSDs got cheap, now do RAM next" - Hardware & Software

They could easily reduce the effect resolution or complexity while the camera is moving, and it would have virtually zero noticeable visual impact. It's the moments where players are standing still and observing their surroundings where cranking it up to full would matter.

Ah, I didn't get the impression it was Ryzen. My latitude doesn't have a 2666 option I'm pretty sure but it's also a laptop.

I'm running on a 4 year old mobo (MSI Z87-G45) and an i5 4670K (OC'd to 4.4GHz) and I was wonder if it's even worth upgrading to a ryzen board The only reasons I've been hesitant to upgrade was the price of ddr4 ram and I figured I should wait till the price drop (which is never going to happen) or it's just not too necessary to upgrade yet I'm running on a GTX 1080 with a 1080p 144Hz monitor btw

Makes sense as to why it's so expensive. People called me crazy when I said Turing was going to be big after the leaked BGA was shown. Nvidia's 7nm architecture is probably going to be an insane jump for price and performance, RIP AMD.

Buying new hardware - YAY! Realizing that the new hardware isn't supported by Windows 7 meaning I'm forced to upgrade to Windows 10 - Yay...? I hear it's a good operating system, sure, but I've seen it do some goofy shit and I"m not a fan of the "sorry we enabled all the shit you disabled for a reason because UPDATES! " thing they've got going on.

It's good, I barely miss 7. Buy Pro if you want the old update system back, and take care during installation. Disable everything you can.

Yup, bought Pro because I figured it'd have something handy like that. That's another $200 gone, though.

yikesssss in the next breath i was gonna recommend those $45 sketchy key resellers because I've had great experiences with them.

Yep, I will always have a valid copy of windows now that I know about places like Kinguin. Highly recommend them.

I figured it's about time I finally went legit, seeing as the last time I did was back in the Windows XP days.

Key resellers are like 95% legit. The only issue is that you're technically violating the EULA because you're probably activating the copy outside of the sales region it was intended for.

Tat'll be perfectly fine in the next 10 years

10 years is pushing it, 4c/4t is going to start having trouble in games relatively soon.

Hmm... What about 4c/8t? I7-4771

Still lacks some IPC for remaining relevant in the next few years, imo.

Maybe a year or two.

when i built this pc i bought a key on ebay for about £5, microsoft dont care they just want you on w10 dunno why they killed the free accessibility upgrade

They wanted 10 adoption to reach critical mass so that they could start charging for it. That worked.

They didn't kill it. They said they did but last I checked a W7 key still works fine to activate.

Why y’all buying Windows 10 Pro when you could just have Windows 10 LTSB for like 7 bucks on eBay? You can use tools to install any mainline windows 10 feature you need, but it otherwise behaves like Windows 7.

Bad experiences with eBay in the past

How? For years it's basically impossible to not get your money back from pretty much any reason within 6 months as a buyer.

I got shipped a stone in a box. I got my money back and I even got to keep the stone, but it was still a massive waste of two weeks of my time.

The RAM I bought: $149 when I first looked at it last week, fuckin' $189 when I bought it. Today? $149. Fuckin'-

can anywon put me 900euro full desktop together? I prefer nvidia and intel.

First time really messing with curved to this degree, but I think I found a good balance on the FE cooler https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/228820/d23ba3b6-8b69-4139-8994-d6193acefa37/image.png 100% silent during downtime, sharply ramps up to try and keep temps from spiking too high during short, sudden bursts of activity like photo manip, and keeps temps comfortably under 75 even during stress tests - no higher than 65 while gaming! My thinking is that, to improve the longevity of the fan, I want it spinning as little as possible when it doesn't have to; short spikes of fan usage that occur much less frequently will have it running less long-term. If temps randomly creep up to 60, it responds extremely aggressively to bring them back down, and then turns off again when it's done. This also keeps the GPU itself healthy, as it's not dealing with unpleasant temperature spikes for as long as a smoother curve would force it to endure.

I've had too many GPU's die of heat related things, so if it ever goes above 60 degrees, it's at 100%, and idle at 65% How does that affect the longevity of the fan? Is the risk of the fan dying in 5 years higher than the GPU exploding after 5 years?

Fans should be fairly reliable, failure mode is probably a bearing seize (if the fans are ball bearing) - meaning the fan will probably start making terrible noises, then just seize up entirely. GPUs on the other hand, generally have BGA cracking on their memory modules and that kills them, I think more likely than fan failure TBH. To prevent BGA cracking you should keep temperature variants to as small as possible, I.E don't let the GPU go from 30c to 90c all the time, if you can do custom fan profiles, target for like 50C and let it hit 70C as a maximum. The hotter the maximum of the range the worse the thermal stresses on the solder balls.

Meanwhile I've never experienced GPU heat death, but I've had three so far (one in a laptop) suffer permanent fan buzzing or even outright fan seizure during normal use. The only card I've seen encounter a different issue than that was due to something entirely unrelated - some solder wound up broken due to the card being mishandled in transit.

My GPU is either steadily 45 or 50 degrees, and while gaming 65-75 degrees with fan at 100%