PC Building V4 - "ok SSDs got cheap, now do RAM next"
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Yeah they fucking removed the copper from the haswell heatsinks. The i5 and i7 models used to have a copper core and were almost adequate. They made damn good ashtrays too.
Hot damn 90 bucks for a 500 gig SSD?
> $159.99 for 1TB
That is literally half of what I paid for mine last year
RIP hard drives
It honestly blew my mind seeing how small my NVME was, not going to lie.
500GB on something with about twice the surface area of a stick of gum... What?!
My frames were noticeably improved (by about 10%) when I added another stick, I can confirm that it's better. Though I didn't notice much difference overclocking from 2400mhz to 2800mhz after that.
Figures. I insert the RAM sticks as my mobo manual dictates and it's still single-channel for some reason.
Is there a setting in your BIOS for that?
Manuals are sadly not as comprehensive as they used to be. But as far as I'm aware (though it's still a "new" BIOS to me), no?
But I also think I need to fuck with clocks and shit, because this motherboard is supposed to do 3200MHz for DDR4, the sticks I bought were 3200MHz, but Speccy/the BIOS only show it at 1600~MHz.
Well in speccy it will show up as 1600 because DDR stands for dual data rate, therefore 1600mhz RAM in speccy is advertised as "3200mhz". You may need to manually change it though for the higher clock speeds.
My mistake, it's 1066MHz.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/132319/14e0da2b-2edd-4664-97fc-3f9e85d857c8/spec.png
Ah, then yes you'll most likely have to bump that speed in the BIOS.
When enabling Dual Channel mode with two or four memory modules, it is recommended that memory
of the same capacity, brand, speed, and chips be used. For optimum performance, when enabling
Dual Channel mode with two memory modules, we recommend that you install them in the DDR4_1
and DDR4_2 sockets
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And yeah, set DOCP/XMP profile to 320.
Also grab Ryzen Master and enable Precision Boost Overdrive, since that'll give you all the benefits of the X470 platform.
I've been impressed with the performance so far, but I think it's because my GTX770 is holding me back? That or I just don't play graphics-intensive games all that much. But Space Engineers (which is anything but stable, including fun) even runs world's better now that I've switched to higher clocks, and more cores for when I can make use of them is always a bonus.
Ryzen has been super impressive.
I think the gaming benchmarks have severely underplayed just how incredible AMD's Zen is, I built a Ryzen server (running Linux) - and it has blown away everything I had expected, absolutely destroys in performance anything remotely in the same price-range (and actually out does most Intel options in the specific applications I use.).
And, the prices are an absolute steal, $200 for a octo-core was UNHEARD OF before Ryzen showed up.
and ryzen underclocks really well. I ran my 2700x at like 2.5ghz and it ran at like 30watts under load or something.
Ryzen is low-key the best choice for lightweight embedded systems too.
Just last year I helped a client (who happened to be a high school friend) build a cheap, programmable outdoor signage controller, and we settled on a Ryzen 3 1200 with 4GB ECC DDR3. Our first choice was a cheaper FX processor, but this controller had to drive multiple 720p video feeds (and half a dozen 240p scoreboards) without anything desyncing or hanging during big refreshes. I was fully expecting to have to step up again if it still choked, but no, the R3 totally beat expectations, I'm legitimately impressed we got something that good out of 200-ish bucks total.
Let's hope AMD can step up their GPU game as much
I really need to get around to getting a V1000 board to fuck around with.
Nvidia has an amazing relationship with TSMC, they're getting the 7nm wafer allotment way before AMD.
So I'm in kind of an odd spot currently. I'm noticing that despite the frankly massive GPU upgrade I gave myself, sure I'm starting to see way better framerates in some games, but others like GTAV now have far more variance in their framerate, sometimes dropping down to where it was before - or lower - for several seconds at a time.
Am I CPU bottlenecked now, you think? My CPU score in stress tests is still the same, and the composite test in Firestrike doesn't take a noticeable FPS hit from the physics being activated (compared to my old GPU it's the same percentage FPS reduction at that moment), yet I'm noticing a lot of points in actual games where my framerate refuses to stay consistent.
Well I think I've got a pretty solid parts list now for my machine. I ended up going with the 16 gigs ram, I was thinking about getting the 2600x but I think the ram will do more for me than the X will. Also switched out the SSD for a different model at the recommendation of some random redditor, they the Crucial model avoids annoying cable management for the same price.
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JMNGV6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JMNGV6/by_merchant/
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($165.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($135.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($209.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1238.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-29 03:48 EDT-0400
I imagine I'll start buying parts later this weekend. Any last thoughts on this before I start coughing up the dough?
How do I determine whether memory is compatible with my motherboard? The price of the G.Skill 16GB went up, and I wouldn't mind being able to shop around for other options.
Wait, the ram you said was confirmed supported isn't on the list. It's model # F4-3000C16D-16GISB. In fact, no DDR4 3000 16GB kits seem to be on the list at all. Am I searching for this wrong? Do I need to search for the model number of the individual 8GB sticks?
Got my GTX 1080Ti yesterday.
9400 3D Marks. Not bad, I guess.
The ram I'm trying to buy is only available cheap at OutletPC, but every time I click to add to cart it pops up with an error saying that the warranty is out of stock (???) even though the item itself is in stock. It doesn't matter if you have the free 30 day warranty selected or the ones that cost money. Is any body else getting this?
But how many bungholiomarks???
Everyone knows bungholiomarks are directly correlated with the length of the card and the number of GPUs on it. I'd say he's doing pretty badly.
Not to mention it's for Mac only.
i have seen the light
i saw a friend's laptop boot up with an SSD
shit was instant, didnt even have that weird startup lag i get on mine
screw having to pay more im gonna add an SSD to that build for the end of the year
even if i dont get a desktop id add an ssd on another laptop
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PC Building V4 - "ok SSDs got cheap, now do RAM next"
