X370 (and B350, etc) motherboards are older and will probably require a BIOS update to recognise 2600 CPU, so you'd need to own or borrow an older first gen CPU in order to flash the BIOS. If you don't want to dick around with that get a B450 or X470 model board.
Also consider if you actually need the features of the more expensive X470 (SLI, dunno what else) or if a B450 will do.
So I took a look at my motherboard and it's a Sabertooth 990FX , and looking up the product it's apparently really fucking good.
So my build goes like this:
AMD FX- 8150 8 Processor 3.6GHz
Sabertooth 990FX
Nvidia GTX 560 <- Looking to replace
32GB RAM
1 TB HDD
1920x1080 screen resolution
So what would be the best 1060? I was eyeing the one of the Gigabyte cards and I'm usually a fan of going on for almost 2 hours on a good game or an application like SFM or Unity with very detailed models and backgrounds.
Might be worth leaving it until the AMD 590 comes out. Also if you're playing at 1080p I'd recommend getting a decent CPU cooler and overclocking the CPU to make sure you're not CPU bound.
Does this account for playing on high and/or ultra settings? I've been wanting to play Warhammer II total war on high setting and hopefully the sequel without dropping below 30 fps.
Also yikes on the negatives on the chart, or is this accounting to different the cards are?
You would need X470/B450 for the 2x series, for around the Strix X370 budget I would get the MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon/MSI X470 Gaming Plus. Most of the B450 motherboards are far from great if not pretty bad.
Alright so I need some advice, now I don't game as much as I used to but modern games are kinda giving me a run for my money now. My system is about 7 years old now and I'm debating if I need to go full upgrade or if I could get away with an older i7 and a new GPU.
Specs below
Asus Z77 Sabertooth ( I was a kid leave me alone )
16 GB of corsair vengeances ( PC only registers like 10 for some reason )
Samsung 840 500GB (pro??? idk. )
2TB WD Black
MSI GTX 670
Corsair fully modular gold 750W ( at work and cant remember the model )
i5 3570k at 4.2 GHZ ( unstable at anything higher )
I honestly think I need a new system as my motherboard is pretty much a trash board, seems all sabertooth boards sucked ass for the most part. I really only do gaming but given that I wanna be able to record and render some videos for small lets plays and what not, I don't want something that's gonna be slower than a whale on a treadmill. My monitor is only 1920x1200 but I do wanna be able to do some 1440p gaming at at least 60 FPS, would like to push around the 120 mark if possible cause I play better with a higher FPS.
I'm gonna go ahead and say I don't have a budget but I don't want to spend more than $1500 if possible, don't really need extra storage space either. I have stupid fast internet so I just remove games as necessary or play once and uninstall.
What kind of budget are you looking at? You could definitely keep the SSD and HDD, and probably the power supply whatever you do.
Just no more than $1500 USD if possible, Also yeah I figured as much but I actually have a job now instead of 7 years ago when I had to buy it with Birthday/Christmas money.
Do you have a case, or would you want to add that to the list? My suggestion would look a lot like Lolkork's though you could go with Ryzen 2700x and Vega 56/64 instead. Seeing as somebody disagrees with me on the storage: it'd be a definite benefit to get an M.2 SSD but I see no reason not to keep the existing storage even if you're not going to use them as your primary drivers. I'm not sure if that's what they disagree on?
I'm fairly sure that uses 1 high/low side mosfetsand inductor per phase insteas of the 2 high/low mosfets and inductors the MSI x470 uses which is a fair bit worse. For the very little extra for the x470 gaming plus you get the x470 features and the far better VRM.
Matter of opinion. Most B450s are fine (avoid Gigabyte) and IMO spending more on the motherboard than the CPU is extreme overkill.
Multiple B450 motherboards have issues with switching power states which results in random freezes in Windows
It's mostly been reported on ASRock boards but some MSI and Gigabyte boards seem affected too. It's not clear what the exact cause is but in the meantime I almost never recommend B450 boards.
AMD really needs to kick their partners' asses into gear and make them build some actually decent motherboards for Ryzen 3. The current lineup is absolutely pathetic compared to the Intel ecosystem.
There are still absolutely no microATX X470 boards for sale.
I have a case, probably gonna get a new one too but I don't consider that in the build price. Cases are a luxury item and I can either splurge and pay over $85 or get something cheap that works.
I just wanted to let you know that I contacted Fractal Design. They asked for the case's SN and my address, and they sent me screws (or should send in a while)! I asked for spare ones, too.
What version would be best then? I spotted a few from sapphire and PowerColor for 170$
i would recommend against budget boards because of bad experiences i have had in the past.
i think the AMD motherboards are pretty reasonable and theres no insanely priced stuff like the msi godlike
the top end boards seem to just include a bunch of shit noone uses, i was pretty annoyed when i built my ryzen 2 pc they include pointless stuff like RGB lighting and not a single x470 board has actually useful features like Bluetooth included.
FWIW my AB350 board had freezing problems in Linux, updating to latest BIOS (which is over a year after it came out), disabling C-states, and telling ASRock to fuck OFF and let AMD CPB handle power fixed it.
I think AMD should just move to a FIVR design, so the mainboard partners just need to throw a single 1.3V rail or something at the whole CPU, and it internally steps it down from there.
I need to test more games before jumping to conclusions but it sure looks like this second 2080 ti is dying based on in-game artifacting on Natural Selection 2.
Damn, that sucks man. Hope you can get refunded all alright, not sure if it's different outside of Europe. I keep hearing about this happening too, seems to be far more common than is ideal.
Apologies for the triple post but:
What do you guys think about running my OS and a few games off a 500GB 970 EVO then using my existing SSD as a cache for my 7200RPM HDD using something like FancyCache?
I'm not too familiar with this stuff, but it seems like a worthwhile endevour. I just saw the 970 selling with a copy of AC Odyssey on Scan (I do tons of window shopping at work) and I'm basically going to class that as £50 off. Been meaning on upgrading anyway, my current SSD is an old mSATA Crucial drive that Amazon sent my by accident inside the box of a PS2 game... yeah seriously. The performance increase from caching would probably be incredibly small on the HDD, but it beats just throwing out the old one, I definitely couldn't sell it for an amount worth my time.
I tried setting up a SSD cache using Intel's RST and the sequential read and write went down by 100-150MB/s on my RAID0 array. Random performance did improve drastically though.
So if it's a single or dual drive it's worth your time, but if you have a 4x1TB RAID0 array with 7200 RPM drives don't bother. Remember read cache can take multiple runs to have any effect, but once it's working that single drive will see 500MB/s speeds if you have a good SATA SSD.
So out if the list of RX 570 4gb cards out there, which should I get when the need to replace my card arises?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.slant.co/questions/8044
I actually already have Odyssey, was just going to sell the code to a friend who wants it for £40 since it's £50 on Steam. Truth be told, even thought I already have an SSD I should probably err on the side of caution. I didn't pay for this drive, and it doesn't read as particularly healthy. Plus it's a very early model.
I think the last concern I have is information on my motherboard. While I was able to find the name of it via command prompt, the layout was so awful I was lucky to even find the version it was using. It didn't as clean or as neat as the wikiHow page
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/133007/3cc9b415-47e8-4789-9ab1-f3427e35f143/baseboardPrompt.PNG
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/133007/2d4c8c26-c55b-48f8-af80-23c5b8935294/image.png
Though this probably means my relative put it together originally and not put together in the case by the manufacturers.
Up until today I mostly disregarded AMD with no real reason, but since the 8700k costs roughly 420€ and the 2700x costs 299€, and because their performance is roughly the same I'm now leaning towards getting that instead to use with my 1080 TI.
1 [url=https://geizhals.de/1804456]AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, 8x 3.70GHz, boxed (YD270XBGAFBOX)[/url]
1 [url=https://geizhals.de/1327025]G.Skill RipJaws V schwarz DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR4-3200, CL16-18-18-38 (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB)[/url]
1 [url=https://geizhals.de/1804446]ASUS Prime X470-Pro (90MB0XG0-M0EAY0)[/url]
1 [url=https://geizhals.de/1746669]Fractal Design Define R6 Black TG, Glasfenster, schallgedämmt (FD-CA-DEF-R6-BK-TG)[/url]
1 [url=https://geizhals.de/1751364]Corsair Hydro Series H115i Pro (CW-9060032-WW)[/url]
1 [url=https://geizhals.de/1753714]be quiet! Straight Power 11 650W ATX 2.4 (BN282)[/url]
Any recommendations?
Any particular reason you sprang for a water cooler?
Eh, noise, I guess? My current PC is using the Corsair H60 (1st Gen) and I'm very satisfied with it, and the H115i's reviews are also looking good so far.
Good air coolers like ones from Noctua or be quiet! can be just as quiet and are much cheaper. They also tend to fail less catastrophically
I'm on my second failing H100iV2.
Moving to air in the next few days.
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