Just had a buddy offer me 2 GTX 1070's for $300 EA if anyone is looking for a 1070 let me know, I personally have no use for 4 1070's. They're founders cards and he hadn't really used them. he bought them to scalp to cryptominers but then buttcoin crashed, all he did was test that they work and iirc played a few games but nothing intensive or any actual mining or anything.
Is there a list of games that support VRWorks on SLI? (AFAIK effectively doubles VR performance, one GPU per eye)
If the stuff I already do in VR can benefit from it, I might take up that offer for a 1070FE to match my current one
Serious Sam VR, The Talos Principle VR. I'm not sure of any others. But it's far along into development for support. Problem is just Devs bothering to learn the API and implement it. It's released with support for both unreal and unity so.
I'm considering a full upgrade very soon, but was wondering if there is a good reason to wait out a few months in anticipation for 7nm Ryzen/Radeon. Sorry if this question has been asked earlier.
Not really, Ryzen 2000 will handle anything reasonable you throw at it. If you're looking forward to it that much, build a Ryzen system now. You'll be able to use a new Ryzen 3000 on your current AM4 motherboard in a few months, and sell your Ryzen 2000 CPU to make up for some of the cost.
I'm mostly just mentioning this because I haven't upgraded in years. I'm not even necessarily set on a ryzen system, might just go the intel route. I've got a budget of around 1500 but am conscious of pricing and don't want to buy right before a major release. I've also got a freesync monitor so that's something I'm taking into account as well.
If you're conscious of pricing, you're almost certainly going to go with AMD. Intel is mostly reserved for "cost is no object" builds at the moment.
It depends what you're using your PC for, though. What do your typical workloads look like?
Gaming, programming, watching videos/streams, usually have multiple monitors. Sort of average workload, but a strong CPU is useful for compiling.
Yeah, I pretty much only recommend Intel in two common(ish) use cases:
-Gaming at very high FPS at 1080p, and we're talking in excess of 150-200 FPS, and
-Adobe Fucking Premiere
And both of these are only if you're willing to pay a little more than is reasonable. The Ryzen 2600/2600X is probably perfect for you.
Compilers can multithread now, right?
They can if you're doing the right thing, but things are more single threaded than you'd hope. The freesync monitor is 1080p 144hz so I would like to drive it. Price is not really a huge deal, the 1500 is a ballpark figure, but at the same time I do not want to spend 50% more for 5% gains.
If they plan on upgrading for Zen 2, then yeah. Otherwise I'd recommend a 2700/X. Should future proof it until Zen 2+.
probably requires a more expensive motherboard in order to get VRMs decent enough to let PBO actually function on a 2700X
I drive 1080p144 on a 2600X, usually GPU locked in most games with a GTX 1080.
Depends on what kind of hardware are you running now/what kind of a performance boost do you expect? Is there a particular reason why you need the upgrade right now or would you be willing to wait another half a year+ for those sweet 7nm parts to start rolling out?
I am currently on a crappy laptop, but coming back to my desktop in a few weeks. It's about 6 years old, I think there's a GTX 660 and a 3570k in there. I am not sure if I really want to wait that long to be honest, 6 months is a long time and I'm just finishing up school so I doubt I'll have much time in around 8 months for gaming.
Anyway here's what I'm looking at right now, not sure about the graphics card. May need to buy the parts in Canada too, will decide based on pricing.
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.89) (not against a 2600X if I plan to upgrade in a few years)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($129.99)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($119.99)
Total: $719.86
For graphics I was considering an rx 580 or 590 or perhaps a vega 64, but I think it may make more sense to buy a cheaper graphics card and then when the new cards hit in a year or two upgrade instead. Leaning towards AMD just due to the freesync (and cost).
How accurate is the wattage estimate? I think I either have a 550 or 850 or something in that range in my current build, so if its really around 424 watts I don't think I'll need to buy a new PSU.
Perhaps you could get away with just a GPU upgrade for now, then wait a while to do the rest of the system? Unless you're hitting some terrible CPU bottleneck that you need to resolve asap.
The thing is, Intel CPUs are hugely overpriced at the moment, and AMD's are about to become a lot better soon (especially in terms of gaming performance which isn't amazing right now). DDR4 and SSD prices are also on a trajectory that will continue to drop throughout 2019, so that's another incentive to wait.
That's what I'm doing anyway, sitting on a 3570k @4.163 GHz and it still does everything just about reasonably well. If I wanted a significant jump in singlethreaded performance, I'd have to buy an overpriced Intel, and the current Zen doesn't seem that exciting, aside from the fact that it's very affordable and has lots of cores (only great if you have a way to actually put them to use). 2019 sounds like a much more exciting time with Zen 2 bringing possibly 10-20% extra performance per core and Intel finally being forced to drop their prices.
I upgraded my system from a 7870 to an R9 390 a few years ago and got an easy 2x boost in performance across the board. 660 --> 580 would be a similar, if not even bigger jump. The 3570k still has some life in it left because you're generally GPU limited in games, especially with lower-end GPUs.
I noticed you have a 144Hz monitor, for those kinds of framerates you'd probably need both a CPU upgrade and an even higher tier GPU. That said, when you see the current AMD lineup getting matched in most games by an old overclocked i7 4770k, you kind of ask yourself what's the point of upgrading right now. That's the reason why I'd prefer to wait a little on the CPU side.
Do you have a budget? The suggestions so far are good, but all very price efficient, if price isn't super important to you then upgrading to 2700x paired with a Vega card is definitely a good idea. You'd have a kickass system, even if you definitely know you paid for it. But if not, then keeping the 3750k is a decent idea considering that they still stand up to xgeneration700ks pretty well. The budget concious option is a 570/80 and an SSD if you don't already have one.
Well if you're not looking to spend 50% more for 5% gains then Intel really isn't for you most likely.
Thanks to everyone so far for their input and suggestions, it's been very useful.
Given what's been said, it seems reasonable to upgrade to a Vega 64 and an SSD and sit on the current CPU until we see what the 7nm look like and how pricing balances out in 2019.
The budget is roughly 1500 USD but a soft constraint on what I thought would be reasonable.
Definitely check on that PSU to make sure it's good enough if you're getting a Vega 64. There's been news recently of some Seasonic 550W units not being able to handle them because of power spikes upwards of 400W (I'm talking millisecond-level transients, on average it should still stay around its 300W TDP). It would also be a good time to ensure you have a well-ventilated case when you're putting such a beastly card in it.
I have tried every single DIMM setup on my Maxmimus VIII Hero with Intel Core i6-6600K, to get Dual-Channel with Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000MHz CL15 Vengeance, but I only get RAM errors on Dual-Channel setups. I can get 16GB ram in total, but they're not in Dual-Channel mode. Have I bought the wrong RAM kit for my CPU and motherboard as in compatibility? I know I must have DDR4, but timing, frequencies and voltage I don't understand anything about. And if they're not made for Dual-Channel on that motherboard, which one should I buy for 16 or 32GB?
When I search on other websites I suspect I need to go for a DDR4, 1.35V, Timing 14-14-14-34, 288-pin, but I can't be sure. Then I look at the one I bought and the timing is wrong compared to this one. I know jack shit about this stuff, help
Tried with XMP off, and the preset for that specific RAM. Even tried with manually setting voltage, timing, MHz, frequencies and no success. According to my motherboard manual the two memory sticks should be put in A2+B2 for dual-mode, but only B1+B2 works with both sticks. Looked more on the Internet and people say I may have overtightened the CPU cooler, which I now have in several ways loosened. I've tried reseting CMOS with power off each time I try different DIMM slots, and it turns out they all work with a single memory stick; but if I want 2 sticks only B1+B2 work togheter, which ain't dual-mode. This happens during factory version of the BIOS and the latest flash version. Checked the CPU socket and there's no bent pins, so all I can think of is that there's something wrong with the motherboard, but even that I'm skeptic of since a single memory stick works alone on all DIMM slots.
I get these errors with dual-mode on both A1+B1 or A2+B2:
CC to 55 (55 = no RAM installed, yet RGB lights work)
01 to 03 and then it loops back and forth
Been living on 16GB single-mode for over a year, and I've heard some games suck at single-mode so I wish to unfuck this fuckery.
Afaik the i5-6600k supports only up to 2400mhz, could this be causing the issue? It seems unrelated but incompatbility does sometimes manifest in weird ways.
Actually on the note of RAM speeds, given XMP is an intel specific standard what happens if I go and slap a 3600mhz stick into an amd motherboard? I hear theres some kind of conversion but save for manually overclocking is the stick going to just sit at whatever the base speed for the motherboard is?
AMD systems have DOCP, which functions near identically to XMP and is usually compatible with XMP profiles.
Get a good mobo and drop a Zen 2 or Zen 2+ CPU in at a later date, is always an option.
Given the specs they've been showing off im tempted to just ride out my current system until the zen2's are out for a couple months and see what sticks, not in a hurry to upgrade but theres a chance my CPU won't last much longer (may or may not have been frying it for a couple weeks without realising the liquid cooling system was partially blocked...)
It's not a couple of months, more like ~6 months. Ryzen 1/2 launched in late Q1 early Q2 of their respective years, so expect around april/may for Zen 2.
I meant a couple months after they come out, can probably keep this thing alive that long at least.
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