Well in all honesty I'm just trying to max out the current PC I have as much as possible before starting an outright new build, so if you're wondering why I'm not doing that, that's why.
Jesus christ how do you scratch up a CPU that badly, I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole.
Also in other news: Nvidia has lost half it's shares worth in 2 months.
O O F
To be fair the whole NASDAQ composite hasn't been doing great.
To be fair I was thinking the same thing, but the fact it is a used professionally delidded and binned CPU selling for roughly the same amount as a used stock 7700k, and that I have info confirming it as such, makes it seem like a decent gamble buy in my eyes. I could still be wrong though, but that will be a while until I receive and install it to figure that out for sure.
Well just saying, from my personal experience anything on ebay thats a "good deal" is 100% of the time a scam or a chinese knock off product.
As long as he definitely says its definitely a 7700k and not the cop out "I think its X but im not sure" then yeah you can force a refund if it isn't but I've run into sellers that deliberately word things to imply they cannot guarantee its a certain product and "don't know" what it is etc so you can't claim they sold you something not what was advertised.
Considering it's a delidded CPU that was specifically meant for overclocking, this was 100% done on purpose.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/209687/d870ffed-fedd-4553-8f28-880bb8dfc4af/hicontrast.jpg
Either the IHS was uneven at the start or the person grinding it didn't apply pressure evenly. They could've used finer grit sandpaper to finish it, but this might be good enough for practical purposes.
Sandpaper really isn't that expensive, 240 grit isn't suitable for the surface finish in the slightest. He didn't even make it past the nickel plating lol.
Lapping can be really worthwhile, It's helped out a ton for me on a couple cpus where temps were a little funky when pushing fairly extreme overclocks. It helped even out the temps on my last X5660, I was able to hit 4.5ghz with a Phenom II 945 BE with the stock black edition cooler and keep it near the temp limits with only MX-4 and left over sandpaper that I use on headlights.
Reading his product description, I don't think that was what he was going for. He said the scratching was from cleaning liquid metal TIM off it with steel wool.
Ugh.
I feel like this deal keeps getting more and more absurd every post that you make about it. I'd steer clear my self.
Looking to build a dedicated VR box for my living room, since my office is starting to feel a little cramped, and I don't want to move my workstation out there just for that. Any recommendations on specs and form factor?
I could either move my 1070FE to that and get a Vega card for my workstation, or look at a new card altogether for this VR PC. I'm doing some decently demanding VR games, the most of which being VRchat, which stresses even my 1070 pretty hard at times. I think VRC is a bit more CPU dependent though?
VR games are generally on Unity or Unreal, both of which love clock speed and Nvidia GPUs (generally speaking). So I think you'll be looking at that direction. Can probably just settle with a fast quad core.
Well like I said a few posts up, I was iffy too until I read it was delidded and binned from Silicon Lottery, who have confirmed to me that it is 5.0ghz i7 7700k CPU that they worked on, plus the price of $291 after everything was said and done compared to buying a stock 7700k at $350-*$400+ from resellers*. When it's all said and done, I was planning on trying to sand out those scratches as best I can anyways.
In other news, I tried installing the latest radeon drivers through the client, the install somehow fucked up and made it so I couldn't use radeon settings, so I used the clean up utility with the installer to uninstall the drivers and try again, to be meet with the same problem. So I downloaded the update from the website, installed it, and everything seemed fine as I was restarting the computer, but now my PC is in a loop of windows blue screens saying "inaccessable boot drive".
So I'm in a pretty sour mood today with this bullshit happening. Everything was fine till I decided to update radeon drivers. All I wanted was to see the new features of Adrenalin 2019
That really shouldn't be happening, maybe DDU removed some AHCI drivers or something?
Other than that, the error is generally associated with updates pushed from Microsoft, so did Windows sneak in a stealth update when you restarted?
What.
I don't think so, I deleted the update assistant a good while ago because it would keep pushing those updates on me until I did that. Like I said this just started happening after the latest radeon driver install.
So, single thread performance should be the focus for the CPU? Literally all I will be doing on this unit is VR, though I'm guessing a quad would make it less likely Windows processes would impact performance during games, right?
Any recommendation on platform? Is it worth building around Intel just for higher per-core throughput on average?
Not unless you don't care about money. You could get a first gen Ryzen chip, like the 1600X, and you'll be okay for VR.
I want something that will handle the extremely busy and poorly optimized Unity scenes of VRChat. My current workstation is running an R5 1400, and while other VR titles are fine, VRC reeeeaaaaally struggles in crowded environments. Probably because it's the only VR game I have that taxes my 1070 so heavily, and my CPU can't keep pace with it when that happens, leading to massive stutter in the headset.
I don't know for a fact that's where the bottleneck is, since the CPU isn't actually maxing when that happens, but at face value that's what looks the most likely. VRC is a constant onslaught of networked and local positional data, physics calculations on multiple points on multiple avatars, and so on. Those are usually things that get put on the CPU, aren't they?
There's not a lot of benchmarks for VR titles out there, but if you look at games that run UE4 and Unity (especially with very little changes to the engine) often favor Intel and Nvidia pretty heavily.
Of course, it really does come down to pricing, you'll have to see what's achievable at the price-point you're targeting.
For what it's worth, my friend who uses a 1800X and 1080Ti doesn't have any VR performance issues, so it's probably not a big issue, just look at pricing.
I'm not kidding when I say this is going to be a VR only PC. If I can help it, it's not even going to have a monitor; it's just going to be the headset itself, whatever tracking devices are needed, and maybe a keyboard for emergencies.
8GB RAM, 256GB SSD max, and Wireless AC Wave 2 for networking. I want to build this thing up like a console, running as lean as possible for one task only.
My 7700k occaisonally has its temp sensor hit 120c every time it kicks up load for some reason.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xTrrfH
Off the top of my head here.
That specific mobo because it has a few more USB ports and WiFi.
Currently have a Vega 64 reference on there because goddamn pricing for them is good. Alternatively try to grab a 2070 for around $550 or a 2080 for around $800.
Case is obviously preference, I'd love to stick that build into a tiny Corsair carbide 540, but I can't find good pricing for them anywhere.
If you're looking for a system to only do one task and isn't going to be used all the time. Maybe consider used parts?
I see Z170 and Z270 platforms on craigslist all the time, you could delid a i5 6600k/7600k and overclock it as far as it will go. Sometimes there's some deals on X99 and Haswell setups but those aren't going to get you the single thread performance it sounds like you want. Before the prices went to absolute shit thanks to RTX, 1080Ti's were down to $500-550 too. 1080's seem to still be okay at times but Vega is starting to really compete at these price points, Navi really can't come soon enough.
If you get one with a good controller they're good as boot drives, though. It shaves a few seconds off of launching heavy programs like Photoshop or what-have-you. But I'd definitely grab a SATA drive for storage purposes.
I'm thinking about grabbing a 1TB M.2 SATA drive, myself. Best of both worlds in my opinion. The lovely form factor of M.2 and the crazy low price of SATA.
They said they didn't need more than 500 GB of storage, and I can't stand how Windows behaves on non-NVMe drives.
It's just my preference when I do builds, they're free to go with a SATA drive.
Just assembled my 4K build:
ASUS Z370A, EVGA FTW3 1080ti, 16GB G.Skill 3200 MHz DIMM, i7 8700k, and for the first time, I'm running Windows on a solid state drive.
Everything is so fucking fast it's unbearable. Even Facepunch feels a thousand times smoother. How could I have avoided these things for so long!?
Mother fucker AMD what are you doing. I tried uninstalling my current radeon drivers and updating to the Adrenalin 2019 drivers(18.12.2) again, and it's the fucking same issue with not recognizing the boot drive again.
What the fuck is the issue, I have an RX 580, these drivers should fucking work on this card.
God dammit now I have to ghetto rig that DVD drive in again.
DDU'd the whole thing then reinstalled the driver?
TBH, a lot of this shit is down to Windows being garbo.
I clean uninstalled the drivers with the radeon driver setup, then tried installing 18.12.2 drivers and was meet with "Inaccessible boot drive". System restored, uninstalled drivers again, then installed 18.9.3 drivers and they're working fine.
I'm blaming AMD.
Haven't tried 2019 edition drivers yet, but 18.11 drivers on Windows 10 completely fucked up YouTube playback for me, with the only solution to go back to 18.9 driver. Basically the video color was lagging behind the actual video, to put it as simple as possible. Only disabling hardware acceleration helped. BTW, no such problem on Windows 7. So it's AMD who should be blamed here.
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