PC Building V5 "needs extra thermal paste" - Hardware & Software

Alright, would that one work with an R5 2700 aswell? Cause the price difference between a 2600x and a 2700 was really small.

Alright thanks, and thanks a lot for pointing that out to me, so far nobody mentioned this.

The 2600x will work better with games out of the box due to higher clocks, but if you're gonna overclock and you can get a good price on the 2700, that's a good choice too. The only reason anyone would buy a 7-series intel right now is if they're stuck with an old motherboard, and even then it doesn't seem like a cost-effective option. The 8 series 6-cores are much better, and 9 series is right around the corner. But as mentioned, Intel prices are currently going sky-high due to shortages, so unless you want an absolutely top of the line gaming PC, you should go straight for AMD.

Would I need an external cooler for the 2700? Would I need one if I were to overclock? I'll probably not bother ovecrlocking at first, it seems good enough but I may end up doing it in the future then.

60hz 1080p, may upgrade in the future but so far I'm perfectly fine with this.

Yes, that and music production.

The included coolers are supposed to be pretty good for stock or even light OC, but YMMV with the overclocks and the 2700 can end up more power hungry due to the extra cores. Do you have a specific workload in mind that's gonna make full use of the 8 cores? Cause if you're just gonna be gaming on it, the 2600x is a much easier choice to make.

I don't have anything specific in mind, and I don't really plan on OC'ing, so I suppose I'll follow your advice and just go with the 2600x then!

The price difference is like 60kr though, ofcourse that's ignoring the question of wether I'd need a cooler or not?

2600x it is then, I will probably upgrade my monitor eventually but I'd like to get the computer first and get a feel for it and do it a bit of research in the meantime, and also get into the feel of wanting to push the computer a bit.

That price difference buys you a Hyper 212 at best, while the 2600x already comes with an OC and an upgraded cooler out of the box. I'd say go for the X if you aren't keen on overclocking.

Thank you, I appreciate all of the advice you guys have given me, will think about it and come back tomorrow probably with a list of what I plan on buying to run it through you guys again before I make the order.

Not trying to add another discordant voice to the mix but I'd definitely recommend getting an X470 motherboard. Even the cheapest you can find. You'll get 100-200 MHz higher boost clocks and build quality is generally much, much better. Tons of B450 boards have weird stability issues.

Toshiba hard drives any good or nah? Need an emergency new drive since my current one is about to die

Alright, here is the list - plan on buying from two sites - the only thing missing is the GPU, I was thinking 1080, I would like to go for a 1080ti since I can definitely afford it, but maybe that's just going overboard. Anyway can you recommend any card? https://www.webhallen.com/cart/167607,256271,281263,281264x2 MSI B450 TOMAHAWK, Socket G.Skill Aegis 3000MHz 2x8GB AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Processor

Assuming I want to go for 1080p144 - would a 1070 suffice if I play around with settings? Right now my 1060 6gb barely does it

1070ti or 1080 would give you enough headroom to sit comfortably at 120+ FPS without dialing back nearly as much 1070 can still do 1080@144 just fine, but depending on the game you'll likely have to tweak your settings a lot, turning more stuff down or entirely off to achieve it

it's pretty much what I'm doing right now anyways. I think the most demanding game I currently play is Siege, and that's not counting all the 3D Modeling work I do I'd jump straight for a 1080 but the prices here are just insane

Thank you, would this one be alright btw? Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC

I would avoid any of the Gigabyte cards. Gigabyte has basically turned their brand into Asus' Asrock, Aorus is now their quality product brand while Gigabyte is the cheap brand. https://www.overclock.net/forum/73-nvidia-cooling/1632422-seems-like-no-waterblock-gigabyte-geforcea-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-oc-11g.html The windforce coolers are known for their fans dying, miners would buy 10 of them and like half the fans would fail quickly or out of the box. The disgusting amount of $500+ cards without a backplate is really gross also. I really would just love to spend like $1000 on a card and have it all saggy in the slot while even the most basic of low end enthusiast cards can somehow find that extra few cents for a backplate. You can't go wrong with an Asus Strix card. If you can swing the 1080Ti and you're getting it for a decent price, I'd really suggest that. The 1080 won't do everything it comes across at 1080p144, and most newer games really won't come that close either. No idea how the prices are where you are so I can't really help with that but used card prices can be really amazing depending on your area so I'd also definitely consider that. I've been seeing 1070's and 1080's for sale for less than half of what they are new. Hell, there's even a Vega 64 new in box for $300 locally. I don't live in a large city or techy area either.

The rule of thumb is that if you buy EVGA, ASUS or Sapphire (for AMD) you'll be just fine. Other brands are crapshoots at best and garbage at worst. I know there are some good smaller board partners but they're a little tricky to buy and good luck getting customer service.

I got really good customer service with MSI. My 1060 arrived basically non-functional. I applied for a return online, sent it off, got a brand new card back, no questions asked. Didn't take very long either.

MSI has some really bad coolers, the Armor 1080 Ti comes right to mind

I'd really steer clear of ASUS on the AMD side, they can't make a cooler for those cards to save their lives. XFX, MSI TF, and some Sapphire cards are where to go on AMD, or a Powercolor Red Dragon but those models are the only ones they make worth getting.

XFX has gone to total shit. Powercolor is underrated as hell.

And hey, if you're technically inclined, you don't even have to stick with the GPU's included cooler no matter what you buy. For example, Nvidia's Founders Edition cards might not stand out when it comes to design or features, but their QC for the board itself is consistently good, and aftermarket coolers can radically improve their thermal performance, beating even some of their board partners using similar designs. Hybrid air/water mods, triple-slot bricks, even passive stacks on stuff like the 1050ti, all pretty popular, and not even terribly difficult to install as long as you're good at following instructions to the letter.

Yeah, for example the MSI Armor 1080 Ti I mentioned actually has a really good PCB so it's great for aftermarket coolers.

That's actually the reason I prefer XFX cards, just get the reference design, and they'll cover warranty for cards that die even if they've been modified with custom cooling solutions. Yes, I know in the US AiB manufacturers technically can't void warranty for it, but they'll give you the run-around super hard until you threaten legal action, so it's just easier to go with a company that's chill about it.

I know DOOM is like two years old at this point, but I'll be damned if seeing numbers like these after years of compromise isn't satisfying as fuck https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/228820/d50fa35b-3390-4a62-9198-35bf6c99b081/20181008002018_1.jpg https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/228820/9a7231d2-469b-4db8-b318-6755c13de646/20181008002132_1.jpg

I have a machine I want to put a mini 1050 ti in, because it doesn't require additional power plugs. There's two sitting about $170-180 on amazon, I've looked at their price history and this year early they used to sit at $150 and long long ago they went as low as $130 at one point. With the new generation of cards recently do they stop production of older cards like this? Should I expect prices to just go up as supply dwindles so buy now or should I keep waiting?