The Gaming X and Armor coolers are completely different but use the same shroud. The Armor cooler literally throttles the fuck out of a 1080 Ti, even at max fan speed, because of how cheaply the heatsink is manufactured.
nah the twin frozr is pretty good.
Any recommendations for a 1080@144 GSync panel that won't break the bank?
23 inch would be preferable, but I can make a thin-bezel 25 inch work if I have to
@AtomicSans what about those tiny coolers MSI has for the 1050 Ti? I remember seeing a Digital Foundry video about that GPU and it was running very cool
Not G-Sync but I really like my ViewSonic XG2402.
I'm not trying to doubt you or anything but why do you need G-Sync? Most people seem to think that it loses its usefulness at high refresh rates.
That's fair
I'm that statistical anomaly that can actually notice screen tearing at 100hz, and is bothered by it. A friend demoed their ridiculous 240hz monitor cause I asked about it, and while I couldn't SEE tearing per se, something about it still felt... Off, enough for me to ask if something was wrong with it, and that's when he mentioned he didn't have sync on.
Although... I do still have my RX 570 sitting around doing nothing. Maybe I could do that "freesync on Nvidia" trick with it and just use a freesync 144 panel? Anyone here tried that?
Freesync on Nvidia is a very cumbersome hack that requires you to manually GPU switch for every single 3D application you use. I would never recommend it for actual everyday use.
Yeah I just recommend plugging your freesync monitor into a Vega GPU and playing it from there.
Then the question again becomes, what's a good 23-25 inch, 1080p, 144hz Gsync panel?
I don't expect it to be as cheap as a comparable freesync panel, but anything noteworthy under $400 I'll at least keep in mind for later.
Acer Predator XB241H 24" TN 1920 x 1080 Full HD G
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP6EG7817&cm_re=1080p_144hz_monitor_gsync-_-1B4-005K-000H2-_-Product
In my opinion, G-sync for that price-range is stupid, and you're better off investing in an IPS or spending $200 more for a 1440P monitor.
So should I avoid the MSI GEFORCE GTX 1080 TI GAMING ?? I'm about to make my order, and should I be looking at some other variant instead?
If it has the Armor cooler, avoid it at all costs. It's somehow even worse than the Founders Edition blower card. Pretty much anything else at all will be better. I like the EVGA ICX cooler on my 1080. ACX is just as good. The ASUS Strix cooler is really good, as is the MSI Twin Frozr.
Alright thanks, it's the msi twin frozr as far as I can tell, so should be good!
So I recently bought a monitor, and actually was asking in this thread about it all. My recommendation: drop the gsync, and get a 1440p monitor. Much more price efficient, and the upsides are far more visible. Maybe get one with freesync just because at that price point it doesn't increase the cost, who knows, maybe your next upgrade will be Radeon. Pigs have been known to fly recently.
If it's red, you're good to go
As someone who had the pleasure of using a 144Hz laptop for a week, and currently has a 1440p laptop instead... Yeah, no, I vastly prefer the former.
I'd argue 1440p on anything under 25 inches (or under 15 inches on a laptop) is wasteful if you aren't primarily an artist, photographer, or producer of some sort.
Well the Intel 9000 series sure does look like shit. I don't know why they seem so interested in widening the value gap between them and AMD
Intel doesn't even have the Cinebench king anymore, the TR2990WX took that crown.
I have somewhat roundabout access to a Spyder color calibrator through one of my work's contracts, could always use that as well.
That definitely looks REALLY solid either way though. Wasn't expecting both 144Hz+ and 1440p in one panel - with G-Sync - for the $400 point. Bookmarked for sure, thanks for the tip!
How much of an overall performance reduction would it be, going from 1080 to 1440 on the same machine?
I know that's like a 50% or so increase in pixel count, but I don't have any context for what that'd mean on a modern GPU.
It's actually a lot more than 50%, the ratio is 16/9 to be exact. But the exact drop depends on what the limiting factor is. If you were cpu limited at 1080, you won't necessarily see a huge drop. If you're gpu limited, it could be quite a big drop. If you don't have enough VRAM for 1440 (unlikely with a decent gpu), your framerate may go completely to shit.
Either way, the best way is to test it for yourself with downsampling. Just enable VSR/DSR and actually go play your games at 1440p.
Followed this advice and tinkered with DSR, but I screwed up my math when picking a DSR factor and set it to 1620p (3K) by mistake. Still decided to test it though, and, well...
... Managed close to 100fps during exploration, and 75-85 in combat, with the same settings as before (albeit with AA disabled)
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/228820/d95dbfbf-6864-4704-8750-679dcff7cd16/20181009223021_1.jpg
I don't think I have anything to fear with 1440p@144hz after a trial by fire like this. Sweet jesus.
Keep in mind that DOOM is one of the smoothest running recent "high end" games out there. It performs well even on much weaker hardware. You should try out some more demanding games as well. You probably won't feel too bad about regularly dropping below 100fps with a g-sync monitor, I'm just saying don't expect everything to run that good.
Hello from the other side. Took me about 2 hours to put together the computer but it turned out great and I'm very happy with it, at the moment I'm just downloading and installing a bunch of games and stuff, will boot up Fallout 4 a little later to see how well this can performs. Thank you all in this thread for helping me out!
Oh I'm aware. My plan is pretty simple:
120Hz on the desktop, flexible 80-120FPS when in less demanding games, 40-70FPS when in more demanding ones I'd rather look pretty
So when I start the computer the first screen shows something like "Memory modules were found on non optimized slots", but everything seems to be working fine?
Fair enough, that's what adaptive sync was made for.
If they're not running in dual channel mode you could see suboptimal performance in many scenarios. Check your mobo's manual to see in which slots you need to install the modules for dual-channel. Usually you have to leave 1 free slot between them, so slots 1+3 or 2+4. Sometimes they're even color coded to make it easier to figure out.
Ah thank you, that makes sense because I tried em in slot 1 and 2 and then moved to 3 and 4.
Is it this exact model? https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Memory-Size/vengeance-lpx-black/p/CMK16GX4M2B3000C15
The specs say 3000MHz with 15-17-17-35 timings. Note that cpu-z will only show half the frequency because that's the actual clockspeed it's running at, but DDR memory transfers data twice per clock cycle so it's advertised at double that speed. Hence the name DDR - "double data rate". So yours should be showing 1500MHz and 15-17-17-35 for the first 4 timings.
Again, check your mobo's manual or look around in the bios to see where you can enable the xmp profiles. All the correct info is already baked into your ram sticks, you just have to find the setting to turn it on.
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