• Decent, free anti-virus?
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My Malwarebytes subscription is about to run out and I don't have the money currently to really renew it, unfortunately. I used to run with Avast before I had it, but I uninstalled it a few months ago because the popups were annoying and it was randomly severely disk resource intensive even though I turned off scheduled scans. Before Avast I had MS Security Essentials (since I'm running W7) but I heard after a while that its detection rates have gone to shit. I'm gonna want something new now, and Googling is not getting me anywhere with truckloads of conflicting or outdated info, along with shit that almost reeks of being sponsored. What's something that's free, has a good detection rate, doesn't eat resources like nobody's business out of the blue, and most importantly, doesn't have shitty advertisement popups? Note: Please don't tell me to just run without an active AV and just scan with basic Malwarebytes every so often. I'm kind of paranoid and I feel safer with something running all the time. If it makes me feel more comfortable, let me have one.
just use windows defender and enjoy your time
Isn't that basically the same as Security Essentials and thus still doesn't have very good detection rates? It was Facepunch where I heard it had gone down the shitter, and it made me too nervous to use it. Has it changed since then?
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I use Bitdefender. Free, absolutely unintrusive (minimal GUI), catches random sketchy web links. Had to add an exception to Facepunch.com to get the alerts dropdown menu to work but that might've been fixed already.
Windows Defender has come a very long way and is a solid running protection. Run Malwarebyte's free version once a week or month or whatever and you're good to go.
It's vastly better than it was back then. There's little reason to use anything else if you don't have specific needs.
Bitdefender seems nice... I'm just wondering if Security Essentials is the same as Defender, like I said in my OP I'm still running Windows 7 (long story) so I don't have it built in. Not the good one, anyway. If it's the same thing with the same effectiveness, and if it's supposedly better now, I'm stuck between it and Bitdefender.
Oh no if you're on 7 I don't think anything has changed.
Hasn't changed as in it's still shit, or...? Regardless I may go with Bitdefender.
I'm pretty sure MSE uses the same definitions as Defender, so MSE should be equivalent. Some cursory searching makes it seem fine. https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-7/february-2017/microsoft-security-essentials-4.10-170547/ and this article describes the result No security solution is 100%. Use adblock, browse responsibly, and you'll be fine with the 99,5%. I run malwarebytes scans now or then (alongside defender) and have yet to find anything for a few years now.
I think I'm still going to try Bitdefender for a while, it's not hard to change out if I change my mind. Thanks for the help! Everyone in here gets a diamond.
I ran a pretty extensive POC with BitDefender for my company. It is an excellent product.
Microsoft Security Essentials for your active protection, use malware bytes for manual scanning on a regular basis. But honestly just keep all of your software up to date and don't click on and run stupid shit.
Use windows defender then when you do have the money, get one of the old mbam lifetime keys as they still work. Its what I've got on my desktop at home, no need for anything else.
BitDefender seems very nice thus far, installing it was annoying because I had to uninstall Malwarebytes and Spybot first (wasn't really using that one anyway) but I managed to put Malwarebytes back on afterward as the free version with no issues. Hasn't messed with any of my system resources or bothered me with dumb shit, so it's cool. Also nobody has to worry about me running stupid things or whatever, I'm hyper vigilant about whatever I download, what sites I browse, use noscript and uBlock Origin (refuse to even use Steam overlay browser because I can't block anything in it), and still run regular scans. I've got common sense about that stuff but I just like running with active protection anyway.
Anyone still reading, what do you think of Comodo? 5 years ago it was highly recommended, and I still use it.
Don't use Avira. It works quite well, but it has a shit ton of false positives and ignores your settings to protect you from yourself. You'll have games and files you unzip constantly quarantined even though the entire folder they're in and the files themselves have exclusions. When you remove them, it will immediately requarantine them without telling you. Windows' standard shit with Malwarebytes on the side should be enough. Though people have been saying the former is great for years, and my experiences with it never have been too good.
Yeah, don't get us wrong, you should be running active protection regardless. It's just that if you are, and have good browsing habits, you shouldn't worry about small differences in detection rate between the good AVs. Nice to hear that bitdefender is working out. I know the paid version is good, so knowing the free version isn't bad is helpful.
I've never had a single problem with Avira in the 3-4 years I've been using it. 0 false positives.
From what my friend tells me that uses it because he's 200x more paranoid than I am, supposedly it's good if you wanna slow down your computer to a crawl while also turning it into "Fort Knox of Buttblastingly Fucking Annoying," because at max security you have to constantly tell it to stand down to do hardly anything, which means "nobody or nothing else can do anything either" That was a few years ago though, so I don't know if it's any better or worse. I've also never used it so I have no idea how accurate his lovely description is.
Avira is no longer pure false-positive spam, but I wouldn't recommend it simply because it (and AVG) are now under the Avast umbrella, and Avast has data-collection policies that make Windows 10's look pretty respectful. Talking about annoying, anyone reading this remember using the old Comodo Firewall around 2010? I think I accidentally put my parents off computing entirely by installing that piece of crap.
I use it and it seems fine. It asks you to download a specialized browser or something which you can decline, and has extra features like automatic sandboxing that most people don't use often which you can permanently disable. I think it nags you about having their tech support help you too whenever it finds a virus. Personally what I like the most is how easy it is to add firewall rules compared to the Windows firewall, however it does seem bloaty and can sometimes use unnecessary amounts of RAM and CPU. But for the most part I haven't had many problems with it.
can you tell me more about why you need a firewall feature?
The way I have Comodo's firewall set up right now is pretty much it'll block everything by default and it'll ask me whenever any newly installed program is trying to access the internet. It's kind of a little precaution I take for programs that shouldn't need to access the internet but is trying to anyway.
I used to use avast for a quick scan then uninstall but then they became full retard after 2016 so the windows 10 defender is a good replacement.
I pay for mb since it's really aggressive against websites that are sketchy, but not retardedly so, which I like Everytime I use another free AV it just ends up going full idiot. At this point I'd rather not pay for that as well.
I use Bitdefender on my Desktop. Be aware that it's incredibly stingy with some websites; for example, I can't ever connect to my uni's Blackboard with the Protection Shield enabled, even with all of its domains on the exclusion list - I have no choice but to temporarily disable the shield. Other than that, it's the best free AV with active protection that I've used so far.
Avast is cpu heavy because of the "real-time" protection. I use some pretty shady programs and avast helps me out allot. When gaming you should just disable avast for a second, most antivirus programs use alot of your disk/cpu.
Personally, I don't see why you can't do any of that in Windows Firewall. Maybe its just because I have a networking background, but its plenty powerful and straightforward, especially considering its free. You can even set rules at the user level.
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