• PC Building Thread V6 - "running six RGB controller utilities at once" edition
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HBM2 was used because GCN requires ridiculous amounts of bandwidth
AMD can use 1*,2,4-Hi stacks if they want, RX Vega had 8GiB or HBM2 and Frontier had 16GiB, that's down to the HBM they packaged. They could've shipped VII with 8GiB if they really wanted to.
AMD's new Radeon RX 3080 XT Holy shit
RTG will literally never learn how to name products.
So basically Vega 64 performance, for a bit cheaper, and a bit less power usage. I'm not particularly impressed.
It being GDDR6 should make it cheaper to make compared to HBM/2 memory, plus that $330 price point could lead to nvidia products lowering to compete. Hopefully.
I think this is the sole underpinning of why AMD GPUs are performing so badly in the market, the idea that they exist simply to force Nvidia to lower prices. AMD needs a top-end performer, they need the halo effect of the XX80 Ti.
Seems like a pretty decent product, but I'm not sure if its good enough to make the average PC gamer buy this over the 2060.
I actually really liked the Vega naming scheme in the beginning, since it straight up told you how powerful one GPU is compared to another. For example Vega 64 is an order of magnitude more powerful than a Vega 8. Except the problem was that Vega was also a codename which lead to confusing information when searching online, and they went and fucked the scheme up later on anyway.
Vega 7 > Vega 10 > Vega 8 ???
I did say they fucked it by keeping the same codename. Radeon VII stands for Radeon 7 (or Vega II if that's what they were going for?) so it's technically not a Vega 7, while Vega 10 is both a codename (IIRC) for the big Vega GPU and the product name for the 10CU iGPU. IDK what they were smoking when they created this mess, but at least in the beginning it looked like a good idea.
I'll probably hold out on my upgrade for it. I was thinking vega 56 for my build anyway, and this kinda falls in the same price bracket. plus they might come out with an RX 3 Vega or whatever that'll act as a halo card and return amd to their hd 4xxx glory days, when it took nvidia an extra year of r&d and 2 gpus on a single board to get even close to the 4870, and even then it was half the power of the dual board 4870 x2 besides, I try to buy amd wherever possible just out of principal. somebody has to keep nvidia's only real competition in business.
decided its time to get serious about building me a new pc. current one is from 2015 msi z97, 5th gen i5, gtx 970 and 8gb of ddr3 1066 ram. it runs most games fine but i want better performance and better visuals. im probably going to be getting it over the course of a year or so cos i cant outright afford most parts. so i need a recommended build for 1080p@144hz gaming
Wait for computex to happen, and also figure out a budget for the build.
no set budget as im going to be buying the parts separate over the next year until i have a full build together. but ill estimate how much im willing to spend (au$): $150 mobo, $350 cpu, $350 gfx, $150 ram, and ill probably get a new 1tb hdd and an evo 860. definitely gonna reuse my case cos if i didnt id buy the exact same one (carbide 200r). psu ill reuse if i can bht i'm willing to buy one after i get everything else. so roughly looking at about $1200-1400.
I assume AUD$ ?
thanks. ill definitely be waiting a couple of months before i start cos i'm saving for a new car so hopefully prices drop. the system you linked is insanely more powerful than my current one so id be happy with going with those parts granted they dont announce something radical.
Worth noting that you're not going to be hitting 144hz on that system. That requires substantially more GPU horsepower (Think 2070+), and probably even a CPU upgrade / overclock (by getting a better heatsink). Just be warned, even 1080@144hz is no joke when it comes to requirements.
its not a problem, on my current system most games i play sit around 150-300. anything 60 and over is fine.
B-die is a massive waste of money at this price point tbh. I would drop the B-die for some cheaper 3200 mhz memory, get a cheaper mobo, and get a better graphics card like a 1660 TI. And a reply to your recent post, modern AAA games become a lot easier to run at high framerates if you turn down the most demanding settings from ultra. And overclocking the 2600x wont get you much extra performance, your best bet if you want to squeeze some extra performance out of it is to undervolt it.
Can probably get some Corsair LPX kit, for cheaper yeah. Modern AAA games are a crapshoot when it comes to high framerate, you'll probably be safely hitting 60-90 FPS on most games with the most demanding settings turned off, and even regularly 120 in optimized games (DOOM 2016, TNC, TD2) - but I don't think 144Hz in most games "regularly" with a 2600X and GTX 1660 is something that can be expected. That's my experience with a fairly powerful system at least.
Absolutely, it mostly becomes a CPU limit when you try to reach for those massive framerates. The 2600x is good but it doesn't have the frequency to get anywhere near 144 fps in the most demanding games.
Huh, Insurgency Sandstorm, Jurassic World Evolution, Wolfenstein 2, PUBG, and Metro 2033/Last Light Reduxes are able to get to and sometimes keep 144hz with my 2600x and 1080ti.
I use a GTX 1080 for 1080p144 and it works quite well so a 2070 should work great.
i think you could pretty easily get a 2600 and 1660ti for that kind of money. maybe even a reference vega 56 if you reuse your old hard drive
I'm having a lot of trouble building a PC, or at least deciding on what to get. My budget isn't really a major issue but I don't want to be silly with it and spend more than I need to. All the info I have: Happy to run the same components for a few years. I had a gtx 970 and an i5 from when around 4 years ago and it was enough for that whole time. I really loved my old SilverStone ML07, not into the RGB's really. Since it's small though I know there's limits on parts but I'm reasonably flexible. I want to use it for game dev/music production and might dabble in some 3d again(not planning on doing Avatar CGI or AAA games or anything). I would like it to run newer games reasonably well e.g Cyberpunk 2077 but I'm not concerned about 4K gaming. I'm also not in a rush to build it. So if any products are releasing in the near future then I can wait for those. I have family vising from the US who can bring me parts for a little cheaper too. I don't have any brand preference or anything really. I've got a decent 1080p monitor but might upgrade to a faster refresh rate or something like that in the future. I have all the other peripherals I'd need too (mouse, keyboard) I know this is a weird ask for help but any tips you guys can give on narrowing down what I should look at would be appreciated.
computex is in a couple weeks. amd is putting out some big stuff that will either be real compelling or drop the prices on existing stuff.
AMD Radeon RX 640 listed in latest Adrenalin driver. Looks like Polaris won't be dead just yet either, though I question whether it'll be worth bothering unless it's for an exceptionally low cost compared to Navi. On another note, I know I've asked before but are the stock Ryzen 7 coolers sufficient for boost clocks?
wraith spire or wraith prism? the prism is pretty good, the spire not so much
So are CM storm products good now? Because I have this havoc mouse and one of the switches is dying and keeps double clicking when I single click. It's not a PC issue, it happens regardless of what I plug the mouse into. I really liked the Havoc, just don't know what to replace it with. It was a decent mouse, didn't have more buttons than my keyboard, wasn't so aggressively designed that I had to store it in the knife block on the kitchen counter, had adjustable DPI and the RGB was actually functionally implemented to tell what DPI setting I was on instead of just being ugly gamer swag. Felt good in the ol' long hands claw grip too.
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