PC Building Thread V6 - "running six RGB controller utilities at once" edition
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Imma post this here cuz it seems a more appropriate place to post it on.
So, recently on Black Friday I bought a laptop that was on sale and so far I'm happy with it, tho the only downside is that it has a normal 1TB HDD.
Now, i've checked it's manual and it has a PCIe M.2 Slot for another SSD drive, and I opened it and checked and I've seen its there.
So, i've been looking for a 500GB SSD and, i've got two options:
XPG SX8200 480 GB 3D NAND NVMe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 Solid State Drive (ASX8200NP-480GT-C)
or
Western Digital Black 500GB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (WDS500G2X0C)
I've checked on various sites and they seem pretty similar, both with small advantages and disadvantages over each other.
Even tho, it seems the XPG one seems better, but I also seem to see the Western Digital one has better support or something? Which one should I get?
Both are great drives, I'd buy whichever is the better deal at the time.
Since it's going into a laptop though, Anandtech suggests the WD Black might be more power efficient than the Adata.
The ADATA XPG SX8200 & GAMMIX S11 NVMe SSD Review
Thank you very much!
Have my coins kind sir
Picked up that Rakuten ADATA 3D NAND 1TB SSD for $99 shipped. Was waiting for a sub-$100 SSD and this seems like a good choice. Storage prices will probably continue to fall throughout this year but I could really use the space now.
Just for the record, what's wrong with a splitter cable? My graphics card came with a cable like that.
In theory, the thickness of cables that typically come with PSUs is overkill enough to carry double the current if they have to, but standards exist for a reason. If your cable comes with a certain number of connectors, and you only use those as-is, not exceeding the current draw as defined by the spec, you have peace of mind knowing that there's pretty much nothing that can go wrong. You even have a decent amount of headroom available to exceed spec if you're into overclocking or stuff like that.
If your PSU cable is already daisy-chained with all the connectors in use, I'd say adding additional splitters to it would be pretty sketchy in that situation. On the other hand, if the cable is designed in a dumb way and only has an 8-pin connector when all you really need is two 6-pins, then you should be perfectly fine using a splitter. The max current draw will stay the same, it's just a different configuration of the connectors.
Incoming silly question: Do the MHz speeds of graphics card determine their actual speed? I found some good prices for a 1070 and 1070 Ti, and there's a $100 price difference. I'm leaning towards the 1070 Ti because it seems to run everything at 10fps more in youtube demos.
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The 1070 has a quicker boost - does that mean I'll get similar or better performance than the Ti? Doesn't seem right.
thank you!
My two-years-old graphics card went and shit the bed so I figure I might as well take this opportunity to upgrade.
Right now I'm using an R9 380 and I'm thinking of jumping up to an RX 580 - since I don't play in 4K or anything I don't really need an ubercharged card. Any recommendations for brands or types? I was considering this one (because it matches my gaudy case) or this one (because it's in-stock locally so I won't have to go PC-less over the long weekend).
Only thing is that neither my monitors nor my tablet use DisplayPort so I'll have to nab some adapters.
My computer died yesterday. Decided on going Ryzen 7 2700x - Mobo/CPU that died was an i7 4770k from 2013(Haswell).
Pretty excited about upgrade, and that AMD has a good speed CPU for nice prices.
I figured that since all my games were fine on that old processor that this should be a nice upgrade (though not noticeable on most cases since GPU survived)
I completely forgot about this - the salesman just told me to get a 2060 instead of a 1070. Hell, it’s cheaper and performs better.
is there any downside to grabbing a 2060? What’s up with the 10 series pricing being so high?
That's the only catch? I play in 1080p. Not looking to do VR or 4k or anything. I mainly play CS:GO and Rust. (Rust on my current 1050ti is pain)
Looks like I'll be picking up a 2060! Another silly question: Does the brand matter much? I'm picking out of the options here.
Might not be able to get the EVGA due to backorder, but my local store has the Zotac, Gigabyte, and Asus in-stock.
In my exp brand doesn't matter too much, they only differ in slight variations of clock speeds, so just get the one thats cheapest as the perf between them are pretty much the same.
Decided on the Gigabyte one, it was the only one in stock other than the Zotac. Guess I lucked out, it’s got the highest clock speed out of all of em. Time for some Rust raids in 60fps😎
Thanks for your help guys!
I'm running a GTX980... with a 4k monitor.
I'm getting fustrated at the frame rate and having to drop down my video quality.
What should I upgrade to, or is it worth waiting for the NEXT Nvidia release at the end of this year?
RTX 2080 looks nice... so does the Ti... but jeebus monies. I can afford it, but is it really worth it if something better is around the corner from AMD or NVidia?
Maybe wait as long as the Radeon VII release but no longer than that. Nvidia won't release anything before Q4 2019.
Did a little more digging today and no I'm looking at these two:
MSI Radeon RX570 ARMOR
XFX Radeon RX 570 RS BLACK EDITION
They look pretty similar, at but I'm leaning towards the MSI - partially because of the brand name, partially because of the ports. Plus from what I'm reading the difference between the 570 and 580 is negligible at 1080p.
Any thoughts?
Radeon 7 not having AiB partner cards is unconfirmed, though depending on total yield (etc, etc) I could see AMD basically soft-discontinuing the product and AiBs never get the chance.
I said the same thing about Vega (it being soft-discontinued) but those are still selling on Newegg, even a new listing for a LC version from PowerColor recently.
Hmm, I think I'll hold out and make my decision the week before Cyberpunk 2077 comes out... I can probibly hold out til' then.
What's the deal with western digital's color tier thing? I want to buy a new HDD, the 4TB "blue" ones seem to be affordable, but is there some reason to watch out for them?
You'll be fine with Blue. Black is the "high performance" drive but as far as I know it's mainly just better for high endurance use than for pure speed.
Things changed since the 1-2TB days.
WD Blue drives larger than 1TB are always 5400 RPM. Green is a dead product line.
Reds are also 5400, but have specializations for NAS conditions.
Blacks and Golds are the 7200 drives, I prefer Golds because they're burn-in tested and have a longer warranty, but whatever ends up being cheaper is fine.
Buy only from authorized sellers if you 100% want your warranty honored (this means check who you're actually buying from on Amazon) and IMHO never buy refurb drives unless they're dirt cheap, and you're putting them in a highly redundant array.
Update: This 2060 is AWESOME. I'm running Rust at 80~90 fps in firefights with buildings in the background. Can't believe this was cheaper than a 1070.
P.S. I shouldn't be too worried about this, right? I haven't seen it hit 80°C yet.
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woah my knowledge is way out of date...
It's not particularly advertised on the drives, you have to dig down into the spec sheets to see the figures, that's also the primary difference between Red and Red Pros, is the RPM.
There's also design and parts reuse that differentiates the series (Gold, Black, Red Pro, all appear to share majority of components).
I have returned to the land of working computers!
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Will a R3 2200G bottleneck a GTX 970? A friend is offering me his 2 year old GPU for $150, which in here its a pretty good deal since 1050 ti's are slighty more expensive
It might bottleneck, but not enough to matter. Even if your GPU experiences a bottleneck, that upgrade is well worth the price. It's over triple the performance in synthetic benches.
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"Bottlenecking" is overall a very misleading term that gets in the way of people buying meaningful upgrades to their system. I really, really dislike the use of that term.
Depends on how much you value framerate over resolution/visual quality. It's probably good enough to reach 60fps in most games, except maybe newer ones that make really good use of >4 cores.
Also that's a bit of a steep price for a gpu of that tier that's been used for years. How much does a new rx570 4GB go for where you live? Also check what the prices in general are like on the used market, the mining crash really brought them down a notch.
Hey I'm looking to replace my Motherboard with something hopefully more stable and reliable. I'm running an ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA1155 Mobo and although it works for the most part, my biggest glaring issue is that my RAM slots are not all functional. I'm able to use Slot 3 and 4 together but Slot 1 and 2 are both defunct. Using them causes some serious issues that basically result in crashes. I'm not even remotely able to fix this issue myself so I'm looking into a replacement that can support components I already have (I'm not looking to upgrade anything right now).
My parts are as follows:
PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yc9ffH
CPU: Intel - Core i7-2600K 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212X Dual Fan 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ PC-Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws X Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($310.38 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Green 3 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($195.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB CERBERUS Video Card ($229.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: NZXT - Phantom 530 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Antec - EarthWatts Green 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
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