PC Building Thread V6 - "running six RGB controller utilities at once" edition
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This idea is almost impossible now because Asetek stopped making that 92mm AIO cooler. You can find them still on ebay for twice as much as they're sold.
I use a RVZ01 for my computer and bring it between home and uni. It's ML07 based, which is an older version of the ML08 mentioned above. I had both available to me and chose the ML07-based one since it supported a 3.5" drive and fans over the GPU. I mounted noctuas on all the slots and a Noctua L9i on the CPU, and it runs pretty cool for its size. It's slightly bigger, though. I'd probably recommend Fractal Design's Node 202 over the ML08 if you want something smaller. Probably a l9x65 instead, too.
These don't fit in a backpack, but they fit in small luggage cases. I usually bring it to LANs in one, and bring it home on the plane. I brought headset, keyboard and mouse with me until i got spares, and left spare monitors at home. If you're only travelling between certain spots and you can leave monitors there, you're much better off with a small PC imo, as you won't be getting much out of the laptop's portability. I'm pretty sure you could double up on screens and end up on the same specs as an equivalent laptop, with better reusability due to desktop parts.
waiting for benchmarks to be sure about performance but imo 1080TI levels at $700 is overpriced especially with its TDP. id love an upgrade but it needs to be more competitively priced a 2080 cost less and has more features (DXR, DLSS, variable rate shading) those features might to be very popular atm but as they get wider adoption they push the RTX range further and further ahead
Rumor is each graphics card costs $750 for them to make anyway, they literally have no margin on this part.
As I've said, AMD needs a new Uarch for GPUs, the limitations of 4 "pipelines" is hurting them, and they've failed to get DSBR and TBR working.
Navi is going to compete with the 2070 on performance, so don't expect a 2080 Ti killer. Ever.
i5 3570k reaching 65°c max temp under load, if I add another fan will it be safe for me to overclock a bit higher?
If the fan keeps the temperature low, sure. Anything below 70 is fine.
I think the max "safe" temp is 105C, so you have nothing to worry about. Once it reaches that point, your cpu will automatically start throttling to protect itself.
However high temperatures also reduce stability, the higher the temperature, the more voltage you'll need to run stable. Unfortunately, increasing the voltage means even higher temperatures, so if you have insufficient cooling, you can reach a point where you hit a thermal wall and overclocking any higher basically isn't worth it/possible. The general rule of thumb is to keep it under 80 or so, but don't worry about going a bit higher in torture tests like prime95. You'll never reach that kind of temps in practical situations anyway unless you have some specific heavy workload that will be pushing your cpu to 100% all the time.
Nope, more voltage will make it overclock higher. Unless you're going below ambient which will when you go far enough begin to affect resistance/voltage loss, ect. You're not going to generally see meaningfully increased overclock headroom from a little extra cooling unless you're overheating already. 65c is pretty cold for Intel stuff, which is pretty much designed to smack 100c with a pile of shit stock cooler and endlessly throttle back to maintain 100c.
Now if that was like an old Phenom II I'd tell you it's time to stop going any higher and begin working on stability since 65c is actually where those specific AMD cpus are considered to be overheating and can sometimes even die if they get to 80+.
I generally try to shoot for about 85c under a synthetic like Prime95 until adding significant extra voltage doesn't help increase the overclock. I usually end up hitting the limits of a cpu before it overheats, so simply giving it everything until it's no longer stable and then focusing on trying to make that overclock stable is what I have always done.
Thank you for this - it’s given me a lot to think about. Node 202 case does look pretty sleek and portable,, and after watching hours of YouTube videos on itx pcs and cases, the urge of building one is very tempting. I think I just need to cost things up at the weekend and work out how much I could save if I did it myself as opposed to buying a laptop. I actually haven’t ruled out an all in one pc which I find oddly amusing. They’re like the bastard child of the computing world.
I found one that fits exactly what I want: IPS, low response, and 144hz w/ freesync. If it wasn't 27 inches then I would have already bought two.
They're all TN except for one IPS that's $1500.
Anyone got any experience building Ryzen rackmount servers? I was looking at building some custom machines to fit into our TV trucks. I think someone was asking about using ECC with Ryzen around here once.
I build a Ryzen 2U server, though I'm not using ECC in it.
I'm still running a 6600K on an Asus B150M-A D3. Am I able to upgrade that CPU to a 9th gen with that setup, or does it requite a newer motherboard/ddr4 ram? I upgrade every once in a while and then fall behind on what's what in the years after it.
You can't use 8000 or 9000 series CPUs on Skylake chipsets. You need a new motherboard
Well I'll be back in here at some point asking for motherboard and ram help because I feel like I've botched that decision every time in the past. thank ya for the info
So, I really want to water cool the 1080TI in my latest build, the only issue is space. I think I could squeeze a 120mm to 140mm radiator in the front, but I can't put a fan in front as a push fan, though I already have a 140mm radiator with a pull fan that would be behind it, would this be enough?
I dunno how that MSI board fairs, but with my Z270 Gaming Plus, I really like it because of the 6 4-pin fan connectors and BIOS control for them, it makes an excellant pairing with air and liquid cooled setups.
Could this be retrofitted to fit the AM4 Socket? It looks like a regular Asetek circular pump.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precision-T7910-H2C-Liquid-Cooled-Heatsink-TMJK2-0TMJK2-/223356327688?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7xAAAOSwjthcUh~e/s-l1600.jpg
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-ZUAAOSwSn1cUh~V/s-l1600.jpg
Anyone need a RX 570? 4GB's are $99.99 on Amazon and 8GB's are $119.99, you probably don't get the AMD free games promo though unless Amazon is part of it.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MCDNQX2/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MJLZXTH/
I'd like to get rid of that bottleneck, and ideally future proof my PC a little bit for the years to come.
Currently I'm rocking a motherboard that doesn't allow overclocking, 16gb of shitty 1866MHz ddr3 ram, and the 6600k.
How does this look in terms of 'I don't want to spend any more money for the next 5 years but also don't want to go broke now'
https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/909707/moboupgrade9thgen
It would be running with a Radeon VII.
Any motherboards that are micro atx that are just as good?
Speaking of, I got the big boy today.
I'll run a lotta benchmarks tonight and compare it to other peoples scores to see just how bad the bottleneck is. It sucks that 3 cpu generations is enough to cause a bottleneck.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/227099/74167cc9-59c5-4063-a2c3-c2e3aa4cffe6/IMG_20190211_101156__01.jpg
DDR5 is not going to happen before 2021 so enjoy the wait. It might see 2020 release, but it'll be expensive as shit and no one will support it because the next big architecture release is probably 2021 or very late 2020.
DDR5 isn't going to have enough performance to justify its cost for the first couple years of its existence, if the life cycle of DDR4 is anything to go by. For quite a while it had no actual advantages over DDR3 but was pricier.
So I ran into something... Interesting, while laptop shopping for a coworker. Been a good while since I've seen a computer with so many "who the fuck thinks of this" features, but even on a device with an E-ink keyboard, this specific gimmick takes the cake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qPXtumW-60
Anything that's not a 8700k/9700k/9900k is a """""""bottleneck""""""", unless you have 240hz monitors to drive, VR and don't mind shelling out for the most expensive Intel hardware then yeah there's no substitute.
I'd personally just wait for the next gen 10nm/7nm products instead of buying more 14nm stuff, there's just not that much improvement overall other than some binning/optimizations and expansion of the die pushing cost way up and performance all the way up to the limit of the silicon. The more resolution you push, the less your cpu should hold you back.
The reason you have a bottleneck is because Intel went from stacking single cores on LGA775 to compete with AMD's dual cores to quickly making fully hyperthreaded quad cores just a few years later for the consumer market. Since then they simply been optimizing that design for the last 10 years while the high end/server market that should drive innovation has just moved into a reality where 64 cores and 128 threads is a thing. 4c/4t should have died in the higher end line up with DDR3, instead AMD flopped Bulldozer/Piledriver and didn't push Intel to improve at all until Ryzen.
You know, I guess I might as well ask for some input here too. The coworker I mentioned in the above post, I have a few ideas for what laptops to recommend, but just in case I'm a bit biased, what would you guys recommend?
$1200 budget, somewhat flexible
Fairly average "daily driver" needs, gaming hardware is unnecessary, but good iGPU or modest dGPU might be appreciated
That being said, wants specs that will hold up well, is willing to pay for extra responsiveness and longevity
Wants high build quality and good looks, doesn't care about color
Somewhat flexible on screen size, no smaller than 13 inches, apathetic to touch but might be willing to try it
Wants at least one "forward-thinking" port, like Thunderbolt 3 or a dock adapter of some sort
Absolutely positively does not want an Acer or HP product, or anything openly Chinese aside from Lenovo
I think I found the solution in EKWB's Phoenix AIO.
https://www.ekwb.com/solutions/all-in-one/
Those quick disconnect fittings aren't cheap, I tried finding some for my 5 gallon aquarium that has a canister filter and a set was more than as I paid for the mini canister filter.
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