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I'm looking to upgrade my PC right now. I've just bought a new card and I'm getting bottlenecked hard. So I figured I'd go ahead and upgrade the rest of the PC. I have a Asus P8Z68-V PRO with an overclocked I5 2500k, I've had it for several years now and I'm definitely starting to feel it all. I have a 850 watt PSU with a brand new 1080 to go with it. I was looking to pick up a AMD Ryzen 5 2600 with one of the MSI boards on Amazon along with some 16 gig DDR4 for about 400ish. Is this the right way to go? Any recommendations?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CBKRF61/?coliid=I10ZCQ7V0O67BO I was looking at these ones. I was trying to figure how which one would be the best performance for price.
https://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-3000MHz-Channel-PV48G300C6K/dp/B0157UPYZ8/ Would this be good?
I dunno if it's a proper place to talk about this, but apparantly The Verge started copyright striking channels that made fun of their terrible PC building video. What a bunch of sour cunts.
Can anyone recommend a good PC from Amazon? Preferably around the 50-80 mark.
Hi guys, I’m buying a new desktop PC for the first time in close to 7 years and was wondering if any of you had any advice. I’m open to building it but know that these days it is often cheaper to buy premade because of the economy of scale a lot of these bigger companies have. Budget is £800, though I can go as far as £1200. I’m aiming to not need to upgrade for at least a couple of years, put a premium on fast processing speed and will want modern games to run decently. If I was to build it, this is my working list; AMD Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-core MSI- B450 Gaming Pro ATX AM4 32 GB Corsair DDR4-3200 Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB NITRO+ I’m currently hamstrung over whether to plump for an Intel/nvidia system. My last tower was an AMD/Radeon and I never had any trouble but I do know people say that Intel/nvidia are better (just pricier- though I think I’d go for one of the cheaper i7s + a 1070). What do do you guys think?
Thanks so much! There wasnt any particular reasoning behind wanting 32gb, would you recommend cost cutting there for benefits elsewhere? I’m also likely going to go for an SSD, would you recommend a HDD as well? I’d probably use the SSD as a boot drive in that case.
Add in a 550w Corsair PSU and a cheap case and that’s the exact build I’m going to go for. Thanks so much for your help! It really is appreciated
I haven't kept up as much as I should be on SSDs. Is it really advisable to purchase other brands of SSD finally? Last I looked you basically bought Samsung or faced some pretty bad odds at the hardware lottery for lemons and failure. Like, I see people recommending the Crucial ones now pretty often, are they just being cheap or are the parts actual quality?
My general advice is between the MX500 and 860 EVO, go for whichever is cheaper, biased slightly towards the 860. They're both great buys for the price.
to add to this the mp510 is a good choice if you want a NVMe drive imo 1TB is loads of space, just dont keep shit you dont play installed
The BX series are cheap for a reason (lower quality flash, no DRAM) - still adequate for stuff like low-end laptops or your parents' web browsing machine. The MX series tend to be really good bang for your buck and are just overall a solid choice. I'm very happy with my MX100, been using it for ~4 years now as my main drive. Like others have said, you might want to look into Samsungs as well, but the choice really comes down to price.
i've just installed my new mobo and 9700k. i chucked my old Corsair Hydro H75 on it that i had used for my 6600k, which never went above 40. but i'm watching my 9700k get up to like 70+ degrees under load. it probably doesn't help that i never enabled turbo on the 6600k but have on the new one. what's the recommended aio cpu cooler these days? a kraken?
I don't think I can fit 280mm in a micro atx, most I can get away with is 240 I think.
Sinch that fucker down till you're afraid, if it's not making good contact with the CPU, it can actually cause it to heat up and not dissipate the heat properly, I had it happen once and I thought I destroyed something. My 7700k stays in the 30C's range, with spikes as high as 60C when random processes are using the CPU, with a constant core speed of 4.6ghz. Only other thing I can think of is make sure there is good air flow over the radiators.
I thought I had it pretty tight but that behaviour sounds like what's happening with mine. I'll double check it
I love my NH-D14, bought it back when they were new. Fans lasted 8 long years of being ran at 100% speed before making a slight noise so I bought Noctua Redux 140mm's for both positions since I was out of the 6-7 year warranty period. Noctua will continue using Secufirm and I can always contact them to get brackets for any new sockets that come out for free. The mounting system also ensures consistent contact every time, just tighten it down until it bottoms out. BeQuiet is also very good, and offers more conventional colors. It also performs similarly to a 240mm AIO and can never physically fail. I don't see myself ever needing to buy another cooler ever again. If I have clearance issues, I can always mount it vertically which in many cases performs better and stick a single fan in the middle.
I figured out that since I had the bios set to XMP II, the CPU was massively over volted. like 1.5v. The problem is when I use XMP I, my ram isn't running at it's correct speeds. II has my ram at correct speeds but clearly the CPU gets way too much juice. Is there a way I can set XMP to I and then manually configure the ram? (Without breaking anything because I don't know what I'm doing?)
Damn, 1.5V is actually really high, I'm surprised you weren't hitting max temps and thermal throttling at that point. Also is that turbo frequency under all-core load? Cause the 4.9 is supposed to be only the single core max turbo, with heavier loads it's normal for it to run slower. Unless you overclock or use one of those auto enhancement options that raises it higher (i guess that's what XMP II in your bios does?). If the auto OC is doing that badly, you'd be better off just manually tuning the frequency and voltage, I'm sure you can do much better.
I was running far cry new dawn all day like this without noticing, woops. but hey at least the game never dipped below 100fps! I'll stick with XMP 1 for now as performance seems mostly the same, the extra few frames doesn't seem worth my cpu having a conniption
Another thing, were you looking at the VID voltage or the actual Vcore measurement? It's not that weird for the cpu to request a suspiciously high voltage, but it'd be pretty stupid if your mobo actually went that overkill and supplied 1.5V for such a mild OC.
I was going off what cpu-z said for core voltage.
Alright then, that one takes the actual sensor readings and tends to be reasonably accurate. Damn, it's kind of nuts how mobo manufacturers include these safe looking one-click toggles that drive the voltage up that high.
Yeah, I'm new to this shit and had no idea that a motherboard profile that could destroy my system. I didn't even know what voltages were safe and what weren't until I googled it - imagine if I hadn't. Going to be reading a lot of manual guides and what is and isn't okay now for sure. When I googled different between XMP I and XMP II there wasn't a lot of information, most people either didn't know or only knew that one didn't work for them. I found some people saying XMP II caused their system to be extremely unstable or not work at all, and yeah shit, no fucking wonder! The more I look into it the more I think it's crazy my PC was working fine* *other than crazy temps
Okay so a follow up, I've ordered a X5675 and it should be here in a few days from now and I've been wondering. For gaming and mild productivity should I use the X5675 as my main rig or stick with the I5 4670k I have? The motherboard for the i5 isnt great and I can only reach a 4ghz overclock for reference.
Yeah you shouldn't be playing with OC settings if you haven't done your research. Glad you took the time to do said research before you fried something expensive.
Single threaded performance is going to be higher with the i5 but you're going to have 12 threads instead of 4. Provided you aren't wanting to do AVX or very poorly multithreaded tasks, the X5675 is going to excel in properly multithreaded games and perform similarly in most others. 4 core, 4 thread cpu's are quickly becoming a bottleneck in many games. There's definitely games out there which just seem to like the newer Intel platforms though. It will also use significantly more power and generate significantly more heat than your i5 Haswell if that's a concern, LGA1366 is exclusively soldered so getting the heat out of the cpu isn't nearly as much as an issue as with Intel's junk TIM which they use on all the newer stuff. It's kind of rough to give you a straight answer since I would compare an overclocked Westmere somewhere around to Ivy Bridge/Haswell gaming performance overall but with more cores and more threads. Your graphics card is what is going to hold you back the most pretty much no matter what though, I'd recommend at least a GTX 970, RX 580 or 1060 6GB to get the most out of your hardware. I'd love to hear what your personal experience is after trying both setups with your best graphics card. What X58 motherboard do you have?
One last question on this - is the CPU supposed to be running at the turbo clocks all the time? Mine's 4.6 constantly even not doing anything.
Well my main rig has a 3gb gtx 1060 (it's all I could afford during the mining craze) and I have an Asus P6X580-E for the 1366 with a fucking enormous air cooler slapped on but heat and power consumption aren't really a concern overall.
It got up to 80 in Far Cry New Dawn, but it never went above 65 in Metro Exodus. Both times only under 35-50% load (GPU was hittin them 100c temps but that's normal for the VII)
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