• Trying to fix high CPU on certain games.
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I have been bottle necking on my CPU for few games like R6 Siege, Miscreated, Dragon Dogma Online, Hunt Showdown and FarCry 5 an few more sometimes. I have done my windows updates, cleaned my PC, did a reformat. Only other thing I haven't poked at yet was going to my device manager and telling my computer to check for updates for my CPU. I did a test and said my ram wasn't running well an below performance so I was going to try to get new ram an see if that if it wasnt fully compatible an the new one changes it could fix it maybe?? I am on I5 7600k , Asus Prime z270-a, GTX 970, 16gb of G skill RAM on Windows 10. Any help or insight would be appreciated please!
How bad is it, is your CPU causing you to drop below 60 fps in those games?
If it caps at 100% CPU Usage, it causes my game to studder or drop heavy fps. GPU is fine some games cap the GPU Usage as well but it doesnt cause my game FPS to drop frames unlike my CPU. I look at Task manager and Speccy when it happens.
Have you checked your CPU temperatures when this happens? It could be thermal throttling.
I can check again, it pretty much stays under 60c at all times.
I recommend getting MSI afterburner so you can get graphs of your frequencies, CPU usage, and temps over time.r
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/222253/d7cd7643-e006-4f84-8efc-f4b73fa2a5e4/geheh.png Inlobby to Ingame then to out of game.
The only significant solution you really have is to either overclock to get a little more headroom in terms of speed, or upgrade to an i7/Ryzen (Destiny 2 went from 100% cpu to hanging around 60% from a 6600k to a 7700k for me) 4c/4t cpus aren't really up to par for some games today. And this coming from me refusing to upgrade from my 6600k and dealing with frame drops, stutters, etc. because of hard headedness. It helped make the stuttering in some games either go away completely, or averaged it out making it less noticeable. For example, just in the case of Destiny 2 since it is extremely cpu heavy, I would drop from 120 fps in interiors in a heavy area to 40-80 stuttering. When I installed the i7, it remedied this by averaging out to 80-100 with rare dips in the 60s during heavy scenes. Upgrade your ram if you want, you will not see a significant performance increase on intel processors, Maybe a slight improvement in frametime which helps with stuttering. But jumping from 16gb ddr4 2400 to 3200 I did not notice much improvement Heres a chart from a linus video to make your own decision on RAM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Yt4vSZKVk https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/739/9e64e720-5a1a-4a91-85bc-8bfe3e035b89/image.png
I had honestly thought just buying a new Mobo and CPU, I cant really get much of a bigger upgrade with this set of hardware I got now.
I'd keep an eye out for ebay auctions, i managed to snag my 7700k for $100 off which was really nice but be aware that it could be used which means it could be damaged, covered in paste, this, that, or the other. I would highly suggest moving up to the higher end if stuttering is a problem the new i9 is the current king for the absolute maximum performance, but keeping it around i7's / ryzen is fine for now. If you go Ryzen, everyone is saying wait until Gen 3 is revealed properly. Otherwise the 8700k is still one of the best performing chips out there today.
Yeah Ive had my sights on the i7-8700k as my next to go cpu.
Is it running at the right frequency?
How can I tell?
aw shit , I start feeling that going from a i3 6100 to a R5 1600x was not really the future proofing my build needed. not that I had the budget for anything better though.
MSI afterburner can monitor it. Dunno if its monitored by default, check CPU clock in settings > monitoring in afterburner.
Intel constantly locking away hyperthreading with a $100+ price tag is an absolute tragedy. Even a 8 year old 32nm Westmere server cpu which isn't even new enough to have AVX support manages to not bottleneck like crazy in games. Here's my craigslist special $25 X5675 at 4.6ghz with a GTX 1080 and 1600mhz DDR3 at 1440p. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/144519/e8a2a216-0a98-45f1-b37c-ae128fb88d1f/bottleneck.png
Oh the clock speed I had was 4.18 GHz
So Im not looking for the most expensive stuff here but, I put together a list of what I am getting here, any suggestions or advice? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wLYWTB
An H60 is going to struggle hard to keep up with a 8700K. It's also kind of a waste in a full tower case, you would probably get better temps with a basic air cooler. Are you buying all of these parts new or?
Id rather buy new so I got a warranty, an I can change the h60. Id rather Do Full tower case because I hate how cramped the mid tower cases can get.
This 280 rad is pretty good value: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/d2fmP6/evga-clc-280-1135-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-400-hy-cl28-v1 Or pick this if you want to go with an air cooler: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15
I'd probably go with the major brand EVGA than the air cooler. Given though Ive never used any type of liquid cooling in any form.
Noctua is a highly regarded brand. They make the best fans in the industry. I'm just gonna list the benefits of each cooler: Noctua NH-D15: More durable (High quality fans and no pump that can fail) Quieter Cheaper Evga CLC: Higher thermal mass, it basically means that it will take longer for your temperate to change, but you will still reach similar temperatures from a sustained load. This will keep your peak temperature a bit lower in scenarious where the heat output fluctuates a lot (Like gaming) Looks better A bit easier to work with Also I think the motherboard you picked is pretty bad, but I have no idea which Z370 or z390 boards are even worth getting right now. I suggest asking in the PC building thread.
Erf, Alright I guess Ill poke around for a better mobo an ask PC building then.~
I have had a good experience with EVGA boards for Intel CPUs. Bit on the pricey side though.
I don't mean to give this a bump, but uh. So uh...I noticed my mobo allows OC for ram to 2666. My ram is 2666, the standard to be used without OC is 2133. Could that effect anything negatively if I didnt OC it?
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