Intel "Light Peak" renamed to "Thunderbolt", first implementation in MacBook Pro. - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=thatguyinthecorner;28276122]um its about the same size as a usb port [editline]25th February 2011[/editline] yeah sure not only is there no technology out for it, only about 5% of people know about it. and maybe .5% are apple owners aka its not gonna get used atm[/QUOTE] And that's beside the fact that even though apple implemented it first it isn't an apple exclusive.

[QUOTE=Xera;28275944]Bolt can also be used to mean move quickly etc[/QUOTE] I guess so, but you would automatically assume lightning bolt when combined with the word "thunder", or at least I did

[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;28269681]Well Apple landed themselves quite the exclusive here.[/QUOTE] Sony's rumoured to put it in their laptops, in not so lon gtime.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;28276448]Sony's rumoured to put it in their laptops, in not so lon gtime.[/QUOTE] I just bought a new sony laptop. Those bastards. [editline]25th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=jlj1;28275888]I don't think it should be called light peak if it doesn't use fibre optics anymore[/QUOTE] By that logic, it transfers data based on sound now?

[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;28269681]Well Apple landed themselves quite the exclusive here.[/QUOTE] I doubt it's exclusive. And if it is, it will most likely become relatively useless. External HDD manufacturers and others won't make thunderbolt ports if it will only cater to 5 or 10% or customers. If everyone has access, then it would be much more profitable.

I think it's up to motherboard manufacturers and device makers weather or not this new port will take off and replace USB, but I think USB 3.0's release was a flop to begin with, giving users only 2 3.0 ports instead of 3.0 ports all over the boards. Not only that, but USB 3.0 didn't get the attention it deserved upon launch... and now this much better port kind of feels like it's stealing USB 3.0's thunder (no pun intended, really).

[QUOTE=Rusty99;28278386]I think it's up to motherboard manufacturers and device makers weather or not this new port will take off and replace USB, but I think USB 3.0's release was a flop to begin with, giving users only 2 3.0 ports instead of 3.0 ports all over the boards. Not only that, but USB 3.0 didn't get the attention it deserved upon launch... and now this much better port kind of feels like it's stealing USB 3.0's thunder (no pun intended, really).[/QUOTE] I have only 4 USB 2.0 ports on my computer - the rest are USB 1. That is how old it is. USB 3 should be more popular because people know what a USB is but not what a Thunderbolt is.

Why do they always put it in Gb it's misleading.

[QUOTE=MTMod;28279772]Why do they always put it in Gb it's misleading.[/QUOTE] Because transfer rate is measured in bits per second instead of bytes. We're measuring the amount of individual bits instead of groups of 8. Not entirely sure why it's still done as line speeds are so high but it doesn't really matter and gives you a nice relative gauge between for example this and your internet connection.

[QUOTE=ManningQB18;28278217]I doubt it's exclusive. And if it is, it will most likely become relatively useless. External HDD manufacturers and others won't make thunderbolt ports if it will only cater to 5 or 10% or customers. If everyone has access, then it would be much more profitable.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/intel-refutes-apple-exclusivity-for-thunderbolt-i-o-lacie-and-p/[/url]

As a film major in college this gives me a hard on. [url]http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/intel-thunderbolt-a-closer-look/[/url] God dam hardware porn. :flashfap:

[QUOTE=Wiggles;28257684]Hopefully AMD can license this soon so we start seeing devices that actually use it.[/QUOTE] I read on Engadget that it's a separate chip. No need to licence it unless AMD is going to put it on their chipsets. My favourite thing about this has to be that it's using the DisplayPort connection. Instead of slapping on ports that you might not use, they reuse something useful. In one on Intel's demos, I saw them daisy-chaining a PC to an SSD array, the SSD array to a TV and then they have this docking station for something. The DisplayPort video signal from the laptop went through the SSD array and into the TV. That would be awesome for cable management. Apparently, due to the way they designed it, PCI-Express hardware will require few modifications to run on Thunderbolt. 10 Gbps is a lot, enough to run an external graphics card. Imagine this: You bring your fairly lightweight laptop with excellent battery life with you for various tasks (Using the Sandybridge GPU, which isn't that bad). You come home and walk over to your desk and insert one small cable into your laptop. The laptop then has access to your RAID array and the three monitors attached to a powerful graphics card in an external case. Needless to say, I'm pumped.

USB 3.0 isn't even entirely mainstream yet.

Sadly it does not support a master/slave system like USB but on the other hand supports direct-memory-access (DMA) like FireWire and is therefore very insecure. There do already exist Firewire devices which can infect a PC or read out the whole memory even if the workstation is locked. And Intel didn't learn anything from that so they created a new interface which suffers from the same leak. [editline]25th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mobon1;28283715]USB 3.0 isn't even entirely mainstream yet.[/QUOTE] But since "USB" is known everywhere by it's name and has some security-advantages over Firewire or Thunderbolt, it will be the new mainstream universal interface for PCs in the near future. Popularity is everything.

[QUOTE=Rusty99;28257746]I'm betting intel will charge AMD an assload to license it. That, and they should make their own inventions to compete, not just adopt intel's innovations.[/QUOTE] It's already in the MacBook Pro, it's made by Intel, you can't really compete at this point. Plus, making an alternative to a likely future standard is a fallacy...

[QUOTE=garrynohome;28276170]And that's beside the fact that even though apple implemented it first it isn't an apple exclusive.[/QUOTE] I dunno my dad read something and mentioned that it's Apple exclusive for 2011.

[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;28291554]I dunno my dad read something and mentioned that it's Apple exclusive for 2011.[/QUOTE] Good job Intel, good job. :bravo:

USB 2.0 - 480 Mb/second Firewire 800 - 800 Mb/second USB 3.0 - 4.8 Gb/second Thunderbolt copper - 10 Gb/second Thunderbolt fibre optic - 100 Gb/second Theres better yet to come!

Cool but nothing right now can really reach those limits yet.

[QUOTE=benjgvps;28283408]Apparently, due to the way they designed it, PCI-Express hardware will require few modifications to run on Thunderbolt. 10 Gbps is a lot, enough to run an external graphics card. Imagine this: You bring your fairly lightweight laptop with excellent battery life with you for various tasks (Using the Sandybridge GPU, which isn't that bad). You come home and walk over to your desk and insert one small cable into your laptop. The laptop then has access to your RAID array and the three monitors attached to a powerful graphics card in an external case. [/QUOTE] Reading that gave me a nerd boner :awesome: [QUOTE=MacTrekkie;28291554]I dunno my dad read something and mentioned that it's Apple exclusive for 2011.[/QUOTE] So it'll only become useful in 2012, and MAYBE finally fairly priced in 2013.

[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;28291554]I dunno my dad read something and mentioned that it's Apple exclusive for 2011.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/intel-refutes-apple-exclusivity-for-thunderbolt-i-o-lacie-and-p/]no not really[/url] [editline]25th February 2011[/editline] it's really just more that nobody else is on board just yet

[QUOTE=M_B;28292688][url=http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/intel-refutes-apple-exclusivity-for-thunderbolt-i-o-lacie-and-p/]no not really[/url] [editline]25th February 2011[/editline] it's really just more that nobody else is on board just yet[/QUOTE] Okay, didn't know, just something my dad read-said.

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