• PC Overhaul
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[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37671223]SATA III support on those motherboards is hard to come by, as is USB 3, but you can get it.[/QUOTE] I remember reading something about this. I heard that SATA III allows for 6gb/s of transfer rate while SATA II only allows for 3gb/s. Nor are there are no hdds besides SSDs that can hit either of those caps rendering sata III an upgrade ahead of its time nor can anyone reasonably afford an all sata III build. I may be remembering things wrong, but this is the gist of what I took from it. On another note. Any advice on the case? Keep the HAF 932 or go with a smaller mid-size?
I don't honestly think it matters. If the case works, it works. You are right that only SSDs can really hit Sata III speeds. Your dvd drive isn't going to, that's for sure. I've found USB 3 to be the more important of the two since I haven't really run with SSDs yet due to my paranoia concerning hard drive failures. I do have a couple USB 3 flash drives, and the gain there is actually noticeable. However, this varies based on your personal usage. Long story short I know 3 people running [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-115-202]this (I think)[/url], and they all OCed them out of the box, and eventually went to water cooling to crank the last 150-250 MHz out of the chips. These chips have been running daily, often for 100 hours at a clip under full load, at 4 Ghz + for 3 years without a single problem. One of them wanted to grab some SSDs for work reasons, and it was a real pain finding a motherboard that supported his feature requirements, and wasn't absurdly overpriced. At the moment, I think there are only 6 or 8 1366 boards on newegg. It was worth it to hang onto the processor and go with a board while he waits for something beyond ivy, probably haswell, but not by much. He has his processor at a staggering 4.7 or 4.8 GHz, and that's essentially the only reason why it wasn't worth the extra cost of switching to the 1155 socket for an ivy bridge. For everyone else, they are quite content to sit on SATA II for at least another year. As I said, some of the bloomfields were absolute behemoths.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37672449]Long story short I know 3 people running [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-115-202]this (I think)[/url], and they all OCed them out of the box, and eventually went to water cooling to crank the last 150-250 MHz out of the chips. These chips have been running daily, often for 100 hours at a clip under full load, at 4 Ghz + for 3 years without a single problem. One of them wanted to grab some SSDs for work reasons, and it was a real pain finding a motherboard that supported his feature requirements, and wasn't absurdly overpriced. At the moment, I think there are only 6 or 8 1366 boards on newegg. It was worth it to hang onto the processor and go with a board while he waits for something beyond ivy, probably haswell, but not by much. He has his processor at a staggering 4.7 or 4.8 GHz, and that's essentially the only reason why it wasn't worth the extra cost of switching to the 1155 socket for an ivy bridge. For everyone else, they are quite content to sit on SATA II for at least another year. As I said, some of the bloomfields were absolute behemoths.[/QUOTE] Those are some awesome setups they have then. Did they mention what they were doing with such impressive hardware? Also, I love my Bloomfield and while I would love to re-use it the mobo failed which is plenty expensive to replace. Not to mention, I could never really get a good overclock out of it because of, wait for it, the Hyper 212+ I was using didn't absorb enough heat to really allow a clock of more than 3.8ghz. These chips ran hot to be fair, but I am kind of against overclocking on one again because it did not live up to the recommendations I got about it before I bought it.
Just messaged him and he said it was just shy of 4.7, so I exaggerated slightly. I've never seen anyone get over 4.5 with those chips besides him. The other two were running in the 4.3 range, and all have some flavor of custom looped water cooling because at the time it was the cheapest performance booster. The extremes apparently didn't OC nearly as well, a fact that I find quite peculiar. Also, bear in mind that these were bought in some 3 or 4 pack discount literally the [I]day[/I] that they came out. Future batches were apparently a fair bit less forgiving. Bear in mind they've been in air conditioned rooms at no more than 70 degrees the entire time that they've been running. I have no doubt that a hot summer day would kill them if they weren't dropped by 100-200Mhz. As to what they were doing? Graphic design. They pooled resources and took advantage of some volume discounts on a lot of stuff they got from god knows where. The machines started off being almost identical and evolved from there as their course loads shifted. [QUOTE=Evilan;37672569]I could never really get a good overclock out of it because of, wait for it, the Hyper 212+ I was using didn't absorb enough heat to really allow a clock of more than 3.8ghz.[/QUOTE] I wish there was an irony rating. You are right though about the heat output. 130 watts isn't insignificant. I remember two of them shared a dorm room and they ended up acquiring a humidifier from some dumpster on campus because the machines put out so much heat that the AC ended up sucking all the moisture out of the air and they were having problems with dry skin, though their GPUs probably contributed to that as well. Two machines drawing 500+ watts continously for 2 weeks straight is a fuck ton of heat.
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