• Apple and Mac Discussion
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[QUOTE=garychencool;44062049]I understand how fast SSD makes things, booting Windows 7 from 2 minutes to 30 seconds or less is pretty awesome. My future wallet says the price isn't worth it and I'd probably rather get an older MBP or get an new Windows laptop instead for more or less the same specs and still have a decent amount of money left over.[/QUOTE] Well compared to the retina you'll never find a Windows laptop with comparable specs because the biggest selling point is the display. All those 3200x1800 ones like the Yoga 2 Pro are expensive too and they're RG BW panels which doesn't work in mobile and REALLY doesn't work on a desktop panel because stuff like cleartype just goes to hell on a non RGB display. It's actually a terrible experience. Obviously you could get one that meets or exceeds the standard 15" MBP and that probably isn't a terrible idea because the non retina MBP is old. How much are you thinking of paying for a 15" non retina might I ask? The $2000 buy in for a retina 15" is pretty steep I'll admit, and you're Canadian so we pay even more because our dollar is performing so poorly. Refurbs are an option, and so is educational pricing. I still think the old macbook pros are old and deprecated and not worth buying except for a good deal second hand, but that's just my opinion.
[QUOTE=garychencool;44062049]I understand how fast SSD makes things, booting Windows 7 from 2 minutes to 30 seconds or less is pretty awesome. My future wallet says the price isn't worth it and I'd probably rather get an older MBP or get an new Windows laptop instead for more or less the same specs and still have a decent amount of money left over.[/QUOTE] more like 10 seconds or less
[QUOTE=garychencool;44058346]I'm seriously considering a macbook pro this september and by then it should be a lot cheaper because back to school sales. I want a quad-core so it looks like the retina 15 inch MBP is mandatory. I don't really like the SSD, it's just expensive and I know I want tons of storage (because uni/college programs for media/film/tv) so I could look for the non-retina 15inch quad core MBP for a lot less by then. Maybe refirb if Apple does that, plus student pricing.[/QUOTE] Why september? [QUOTE=Killervalon;44055556]Doesn't seem like a Early 2014 model is coming, anyone who has anything to say against buying a 13" rMBP (8gb)? Looking at the roadmap for Intel next mbp might be 2015...[/QUOTE] Also, I bought it last night, Apple says it'll be here tommorow ^_^
[QUOTE=Killervalon;44064602]Why september? [/QUOTE] back-to-school sales and I don't really need it now [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Kaabii;44062562]Well compared to the retina you'll never find a Windows laptop with comparable specs because the biggest selling point is the display. All those 3200x1800 ones like the Yoga 2 Pro are expensive too and they're RG BW panels which doesn't work in mobile and REALLY doesn't work on a desktop panel because stuff like cleartype just goes to hell on a non RGB display. It's actually a terrible experience. Obviously you could get one that meets or exceeds the standard 15" MBP and that probably isn't a terrible idea because the non retina MBP is old. How much are you thinking of paying for a 15" non retina might I ask? The $2000 buy in for a retina 15" is pretty steep I'll admit, and you're Canadian so we pay even more because our dollar is performing so poorly. Refurbs are an option, and so is educational pricing. I still think the old macbook pros are old and deprecated and not worth buying except for a good deal second hand, but that's just my opinion.[/QUOTE] I looked into educational pricing, it's usually around $200 off for what I'm aiming for. I've only ever looked at the retina screens in store, never actually used it on my own because no one has them where I'm at.
Apple's back to school sales on the MBP and iPads are actually inventory clearance sales in disguise because they update their lineups in October. Also, refurbished gives better discounts than educational pricing gets you. The base 15" rMBP is $1739 refurbished, where as the best price you'll get with the education pricing is $1949.
Hey now, the 15" Non-Retina MBP is still a perfectly good laptop if you can get your hands on it at a lower price. The Ivy Bridge i7 and GT 650M still pack a punch, and you can always install your own SSDs at better value. Not to mention that you could have a 2nd drive for mass storage or RAID if you remove the optical drive. Even for an "old" laptop, it's pretty slim, and if you can get a 1680x1050 model it's a very decent display
[QUOTE=Kaabii;44069590]Apple's back to school sales on the MBP and iPads are actually inventory clearance sales in disguise because they update their lineups in October. Also, refurbished gives better discounts than educational pricing gets you. The base 15" rMBP is $1739 refurbished, where as the best price you'll get with the education pricing is $1949.[/QUOTE] I wonder if I can get refurbished and get a student discount on that..
[QUOTE=deano270;44071505]Hey now, the 15" Non-Retina MBP is still a perfectly good laptop if you can get your hands on it at a lower price. The Ivy Bridge i7's and GT 650M still pack a punch, and you can always install your own SSDs at better value. Not to mention that you could have a 2nd drive for mass storage or RAID if you remove the optical drive. Even for an "old" laptop, it's pretty slim, and if you can get a 1680x1050 model it's a very decent display[/QUOTE] I agree that it's hardly a bad laptop, though I still feel like the fact that it uses the old chassis makes it far less desirable than it would be if they'd updated it. Also putting in your own SSD can hardly be said to be better value when you're comparing putting in a SATA drive to Apple's PCI-E SSDs which are in a whole other league with regard to sequential reads and writes. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=garychencool;44071597]I wonder if I can get refurbished and get a student discount on that..[/QUOTE] Doesn't work.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;44069590]Apple's back to school sales on the MBP and iPads are actually inventory clearance sales in disguise because they update their lineups in October. Also, refurbished gives better discounts than educational pricing gets you. The base 15" rMBP is $1739 refurbished, where as the best price you'll get with the education pricing is $1949.[/QUOTE] I would be okay with getting those during the back-to-school sales anyways. Refurbished can work too. Refurbished non-retina MBP could also work...
These days you can pick up a 240GB Samsung 840 EVO for about £130 or so which performs very well. The older chassis is nothing like the rMBP though. Incredible design. I just wish they didn't completely kill the possibility of upgrades with the soldered RAM and custom SSDs.
I found this refurb [url]http://store.apple.com/ca/product/FD103LL/A[/url] and this one [url]http://store.apple.com/ca/product/G0MW5LL/A[/url] this one has more ram, processing power, storage and apparently graphics card memory the third one had an SSD, I kinda wanted more storage and not have to also lug around an external hhd.
carrying an external HDD is hardly 'lugging' these days, chuck it and the small cable in your pocket and go. my 1tb wd passport thing is tiny and light [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] i think it's worth having an ssd. everything essential is so much quicker it's almost unberable to go back
[QUOTE=.Lain;44071860] i think it's worth having an ssd. everything essential is so much quicker it's almost unberable to go back[/QUOTE] must be awesome for video editing, too bad the constant read and writes would pretty much degrade the ssd super fast or is that something in the past?
that still happens to an extent, but far faaar slower than it did when ssd's were a new technology. i doubt you'd notice any degradance in the SSD in a macbook pro during the ~5 years you'd be using it [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] if even 5 years :v. i'll be upgrading every year or two
I need to get an SSD... What's the bare minimum size I can get by with? Do they sell any Superdrive - HDD brackets for the 2012 MBPs?
I'm just going to buy the 1TB SSD model of the rMBP and not have to deal with external hard drives or space management.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;44073056]I'm just going to buy the 1TB SSD model of the rMBP and not have to deal with external hard drives or space management.[/QUOTE] $800 more... That's a lot of money for a lot of storage that's fast..
[QUOTE=garychencool;44073271]$800 more... That's a lot of money for a lot of storage that's fast..[/QUOTE] I got an entry scholarship to university so I'm pretending that's like free money to allocate to other things like a laptop. [editline]28th February 2014[/editline] Also I'd buy a refurb because [url=http://store.apple.com/ca/product/G0PU2LL/A/refurbished-154-inch-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display]the model I want is $500 less when refurbished[/url] which can be put toward either Applecare or in my pocket. Apple refurbs are as good as new anyway, you just don't get the retail box.
Congratulations on the scholarship! In other news I found out that if I customize the base retina MacBook pro to the higher end one that costs $2600, it will cost the same minus the dedicated graphics card.
[QUOTE=garychencool;44073652]Congratulations on the scholarship! In other news I found out that if I customize the base retina MacBook pro to the higher end one that costs $2600, it will cost the same minus the dedicated graphics card.[/QUOTE] Yup that sounds about right. You're definitely paying a premium when you do CTO and so it's not at all surprising that it ends up matching the cost of a superior base model up the chain.
The difference is that I get a dedicated graphics card (for free?) for the same price.
Is there anything wrong with the evasi0n iOS 7 jailbreak at this point? Plan on doing it to my phone tonight if there isn't.
[QUOTE=The freeman;44074153]Is there anything wrong with the evasi0n iOS 7 jailbreak at this point? Plan on doing it to my phone tonight if there isn't.[/QUOTE] This has nothing to do with the jailbreak exploits itself, it has to do with Cydia, but it's worth mentioning that the status bar glitch where it is ever present and has issues changing colors has still not been fixed. Having the status bar hanging out when watching videos or viewing pictures or playing games is quite jarring. Can be fixed by getting StatusBarFix2 from [url]http://repo.pnre.co.vu/[/url] Other than that, no issues. Works up to 7.0.6 and it's definitely the time to JB if you plan to because 7.1 is coming in March.
Also how do I back up the old install in case shit goes wrong?
[QUOTE=The freeman;44074173]Also how do I back up the old install in case shit goes wrong?[/QUOTE] Just use the iTunes backup feature and tell it to backup to your PC.
Does anyone know of an application like Steermouse that is free, or at least is on the Mac App Store?
Does anyone else share my opinion that the iOS 7 music app for iPad is a huge regression? Tim Cook is always like "Android tablets are stretched out phones huehuehue" but the iOS 7 music app is that very same thing on iPad. The old one wasn't heavily skeuomorphic and they could have easily flattened it out and kept the old album view which was really great on the iPad's big display.
I think iOS 7 was just rushed. iOS 7.1 has some UI changes, maybe the music app will look better?
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;44077819]I think iOS 7 was just rushed. iOS 7.1 has some UI changes, maybe the music app will look better?[/QUOTE] Nah it isn't changed beyond the shuffle and repeat buttons. Apple doesn't care about the poor iPad music app because it's not often used.
Honestly, I have no complaints about the iPad music app. It works well enough.
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