Apple and Mac Discussion - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=woolio1;45352570]Didn't the guy with the scratched screen say his doesn't have the rubber space?[/QUOTE] Every single unibody MacBook comes with one, glossy or matte screen

[QUOTE=sambooo;45358789]I've never seen the point in those rubber keyboard covers either. Seriously, what are they meant to achieve?[/QUOTE] I think they're supposed to prevent dust going under the keycaps, but primarily to personalize it slightly.

[QUOTE=MisterM;45342361]Any of you guys ever work or have worked/friends work in an Apple store? Gonna apply soon and would be great to get a few tips for working as a genius/specialist.[/QUOTE] I'm currently an apple specialist. I can't say anything about the retail stores from Apple. I work in a third party store and I much prefer this job. Boss is cool, I do computer repairs, and when there's free time I spend time reading or learning to program.

[QUOTE=Unreliable;45367904]I'm currently an apple specialist. I can't say anything about the retail stores from Apple. I work in a third party store and I much prefer this job. Boss is cool, I do computer repairs, and when there's free time I spend time reading or learning to program.[/QUOTE] Cool, lots of those around London! Did you know much about hardware before you applied? I built a gaming PC but that's about it, figure I would be more useful as a specialist than a genius.

Oh Wow i found my old iPod Touch 2nd Gen, Dang it's on IOS 4.2.1 :suicide: Anyone know any games that support such an old IOS version ? i already have Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3D.

[QUOTE=MisterM;45369077]Cool, lots of those around London! Did you know much about hardware before you applied? I built a gaming PC but that's about it, figure I would be more useful as a specialist than a genius.[/QUOTE] Apple geniuses do need to understand how Apple software works. By that I don't mean how to use the programs, I mean how to look at crash logs and figure out what processes are being killed by the kernel. I had an iPad suffering from homescreen crashes and the geniuses knew all the iOS processes like backboard and springboard that were involved.

[QUOTE=Kaabii;45369371]Apple geniuses do need to understand how Apple software works. By that I don't mean how to use the programs, I mean how to look at crash logs and figure out what processes are being killed by the kernel. I had an iPad suffering from homescreen crashes and the geniuses knew all the iOS processes like backboard and springboard that were involved.[/QUOTE] That's pretty much why I want to study Mac OS X using the MBP, it'd come in handy for working with Mac and iOS hardware when I go into employment.

[QUOTE=digigamer17;45369446]That's pretty much why I want to study Mac OS using the MBP, it'd come in handy for working with Mac and iOS hardware when I go into employment.[/QUOTE] The first thing to learn is that it's not typically called Mac OS anymore. Apple just brands it as OS X.

[QUOTE=Kaabii;45369794]The first thing to learn is that it's not typically called Mac OS anymore. Apple just brands it as OS X.[/QUOTE] I'm swapping my keyboard out real soon.

[QUOTE=digigamer17;45369799]I'm swapping my keyboard out real soon.[/QUOTE] What's wrong with your keyboard? Is the X key broken on it?

[QUOTE=Kaabii;45369808]What's wrong with your keyboard? Is the X key broken on it?[/QUOTE] It has a habit of some keys not wanting to respond, and it's a cheapy keyboard that's probably not even worth a tenner. Tried it with my other laptops and it still does the same thing so I'm gonna buy something else.

[QUOTE=MisterM;45369077]Cool, lots of those around London! Did you know much about hardware before you applied? I built a gaming PC but that's about it, figure I would be more useful as a specialist than a genius.[/QUOTE] There's some things that even the repair people at work can't wrap their heads around in terms of Hardware & software working together (like how graphics card failure is represented). That's not the best example, but I get shit at work for saying graphical artifacting, so I always bring it up. Or how Library folders and Apps are separated into user specific user library information and system library information for the same app. Maybe how crashlogs for various apps are saved and how to read them. Rereading the console on what the customer did before he kernel panic'd. Understanding that with further diagnostic testing, that kernel panic was due to him spilling water years earlier and that corrosion being noticeable on the logic board right by the CPU. That knowledge of hardware & software is something I can attribute to a few years of studying PCs and wanting to build machines, toying around with linux, and creating mods for games at a very early age. More recently I've been into Terminal and all the functionality of that. If I recover information from a drive with dd or something to one of our store drives, I'll have to dd with /dev/disk0 and /dev/disk1 on our mac pro, all that shit which was really confusing at first. When you put that recovered information on a new drive for the customer, you have to move the recovered information to the Users folders, chmod it if dd didn't catch some of the permissions, and then create the user with the same password. That way, the keychain and all the folders within the Home Folder are accessible to the person. By far setting up apps like iPhoto or Mail are the biggest pain in the ass. My boss is very nice. He's helping my scheduling and attending college, so I'm doing the best I can at work right now. Coworkers are also pretty cool. That's all I have to say about third party stores. It's a relaxed environment. You do work and learn. Today was saturday. I probably had 6 people come in the store over the course of 8 hours. My entire day was spent learning how to make wine host a dedicated server with a mod and then playing the same game natively on my computer connected to that server. I kept getting VM_Create on game failed but ITS RESOLVED!

I just bought an iPad Retina 3G 64 GB (model MD527TY/A) for 279,20 €. Was it a good deal?

Which iPad Retina?

[QUOTE=Kaabii;45377563]Which iPad Retina?[/QUOTE] It's the fourth generation one, it has the Lighting Port. Also, it was new from a store.

[QUOTE=Lomme;45377757]It's the fourth generation one, it has the Lighting Port. Also, it was new from a store.[/QUOTE] Then you got a pretty good deal. Apple sells the base model 16GB WiFi only one for more than that. Also I just realized you put the model in your post and I could have searched it to find out it's a fourth gen, my bad.

Now that I got my Macbook and it's all set up, is it normal for it to have an almost audible sound of HDD activity? I'm aware this thing has an SSD but that doesn't sound right does it?

[QUOTE=digigamer17;45385737]Now that I got my Macbook and it's all set up, is it normal for it to have an almost audible sound of HDD activity? I'm aware this thing has an SSD but that doesn't sound right does it?[/QUOTE] I can sort of hear mine sometimes... How loud is it?

err, you bought the non retina macbook?

My rMBP is silent even when playing games on it. I don't even know if it has fans. Is that the model you have or do you have an older one?

Its the Retina model, but it stopped making that hdd noise that was almost silent. Its fine anyways!

the retina does not have an HDD option [editline]14th July 2014[/editline] the fan is literally the only moving part in the rMBP and it doesn't always run at that

[QUOTE=.Lain;45388659]the retina does not have an HDD option [editline]14th July 2014[/editline] the fan is literally the only moving part in the rMBP and it doesn't always run at that[/QUOTE] Yeah I know, but it's a new machine so I guess some tend to do that when they're turned on for the first time. I love it a lot, it's gonna be a bit tricky getting used to OSX again, as I've been on Windows for 10-11 years and had little time to use Mac OS/OSX and whatnot. It just sounded like an HDD, when I knew it didn't have one so it would've been the fan doing it. Also it came pre-charged at 85% and I used it for over 6 hours today, that's a long time for it to run with decent brightness with WiFi on. And I like how it came with a little suite of it's own of an Office file format capability. It's a lovely piece of kit and it just made my ThinkPad look like a fucking brick, haha.

God almighty, are apps for the Retina really this big? Xcode is like 2GB.

[QUOTE=digigamer17;45395514]God almighty, are apps for the Retina really this big? Xcode is like 2GB.[/QUOTE] I don't think it has anything to do with Retina, and more with Xcode being a fully fledged IDE for developing on Apple environments.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;45396709]I don't think it has anything to do with Retina, and more with Xcode being a fully fledged IDE for developing on Apple environments.[/QUOTE] Oh, I see. Well, kudos to them making it completely free. The only thing I'm looking for is a decent deal on a Thunderbolt hard disk drive, I guess I'll make that wait til my new room is done. Might put it onto the network, too so I can get to it from college. Other than that I'll buy a 2TB USB 3.0 HDD in the mean-time. Shame the USB stick we originally had died after 3 months use, it got hot for no reason and neither of our computers could get it to work.

[QUOTE=Dr McNinja;45387096]My rMBP is silent even when playing games on it. I don't even know if it has fans. Is that the model you have or do you have an older one?[/QUOTE] doesn't flash/webm video like youtube make your fans spin up? it does for me

[QUOTE=digigamer17;45395514]God almighty, are apps for the Retina really this big? Xcode is like 2GB.[/QUOTE] xcode let's you develop iOS apps as well, so there's even emulators in there.

[QUOTE=sambooo;45398684]doesn't flash/webm video like youtube make your fans spin up? it does for me[/QUOTE] I tried loading up a thread full of webms to verify that for you and it didn't make any audible sound at all. The temp also stayed the same throughout. I have my macbook on a vertical stand in clamshell mode with external displays and even when gaming I've never heard it make a sound.

[QUOTE=Dr McNinja;45406632]I tried loading up a thread full of webms to verify that for you and it didn't make any audible sound at all. The temp also stayed the same throughout. I have my macbook on a vertical stand in clamshell mode with external displays and even when gaming I've never heard it make a sound.[/QUOTE] I'm using my Macbook on a table like a normal laptop, and if I use Firefox or Chrome, the fans rev up a little to the point it can be heard. Feels a bit warm, too. It's a 2 or 3 day old machine and it's the Late 2013 model. Least Minecraft runs fine even on battery but the power behavior and the fan behavior is a little odd compared to my old ThinkPad.