• Apple and Mac Discussion
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I hope the battery is great. After a year of daily use my iPhone 5 can barely make it through the day.
[QUOTE=woolio1;45943565]If we're going to be recording 1080p, 60FPS footage from that camera, we're going to need it. EDIT: So, do you guys think someone will end up making a standard watch strap adapter? Something that'll let you use standard watch bands with the Watch, rather than having to rely on Apple's offerings? I've always been a fan of raw leather on watches, and I can buy any number of raw leather NATO straps (including one from a guy here!), but Apple isn't selling one for the Watch. I don't know, that's just something I'd like to see.[/QUOTE] I assume third party bands will become quite a common thing. The locking mechanism seems pretty simple to replicate.
Ditching my Nexus 5 and getting an iPhone 6. I had the phone for 8 months, and I really don't think I'll be missing anything by leaving Android.
[QUOTE=kitthehacker;45945680]I assume third party bands will become quite a common thing. The locking mechanism seems pretty simple to replicate.[/QUOTE] I'm getting emails from our case providers that were saying they are allowing preordering of iphone 6 cases already. They've mentioned that they weren't expecting a watch and are working on the bands now.
[QUOTE=Unreliable;45963359]I'm getting emails from our case providers that were saying they are allowing preordering of iphone 6 cases already. They've mentioned that they weren't expecting a watch and are working on the bands now.[/QUOTE] Based on what though? The Apple watch isn't in the supply chain, there's no parts to use for measurements.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;45964414]Based on what though? The Apple watch isn't in the supply chain, there's no parts to use for measurements.[/QUOTE] The same scenario with the phones. I have preorder options, the iphone 6 isn't out, there were options to preorder it before the announcement and they emailed us the pictures of the case options that included pictures of the phone that was released. Apple watch wasn't announced to anyone, so my only suspect is that since Apple released the watch, they've gotten measurements from Apple and have started working on designs. I mean, all you need is the diameter of the hole and the distance from one point to the other. Frankly, apple would probably give that to sales or brands for early band creation. Also, it's a freaking email. I don't know how much I trust companies words all the times. Except moshi. They're the best company for apple products I've ever worked with.
Planning on queueing at the Sheffield Apple store next Thursday at around 23:30. Do you think ill get one if I queue from then to 8am?
I don't understand the whole battle of Android v iPhone. I had a few android phones, the top of the line, flagship androids- not the shitty ones. And they all ran slow and were laggy. But yet, android fanboys claim "l0l we've had those specs since 2012!!! ask us if u need help with ur device!! xD" Sure, they've had the specs since then but none of their phones run as smooth as an iPhone does and thats what I like about iPhones. They're is no delay, lag, freezing, etc. idek, maybe i'm just rambling v:v:v
[QUOTE=PonceDeLeon;45970048]I don't understand the whole battle of Android v iPhone. I had a few android phones, the top of the line, flagship androids- not the shitty ones. And they all ran slow and were laggy. But yet, android fanboys claim "l0l we've had those specs since 2012!!! ask us if u need help with ur device!! xD" Sure, they've had the specs since then but none of their phones run as smooth as an iPhone does and thats what I like about iPhones. They're is no delay, lag, freezing, etc. idek, maybe i'm just rambling v:v:v[/QUOTE] The funny part is that there's still no Android phone that matches Apple's A7 for CPU performance, and its been over a year now and A7 has been replaced.
[QUOTE=PonceDeLeon;45970048]I don't understand the whole battle of Android v iPhone. I had a few android phones, the top of the line, flagship androids- not the shitty ones. And they all ran slow and were laggy. But yet, android fanboys claim "l0l we've had those specs since 2012!!! ask us if u need help with ur device!! xD" Sure, they've had the specs since then but none of their phones run as smooth as an iPhone does and thats what I like about iPhones. They're is no delay, lag, freezing, etc. idek, maybe i'm just rambling v:v:v[/QUOTE] Basically runs down to justifying their own product, and make other products look inferior. I personally use and enjoy both iOS and Android devices, and I don't bother engaging in any of the useless Apple VS Android shitflinging.
What I can't seem to understand is why the Android community breeds such a vast inferiority complex, and why it's so effective at doing so. If it were a loud minority, that'd be one thing, but even the non-techy people I know that use Android phones are like that. These are people that otherwise don't care about technology, parading their Android phones around like they're the second coming of Ron Ben-Israel. It's bizarre.
[quote]the Android community breeds such a vast [I]inferiority[/I] complex[/quote] Freudian slip?
[QUOTE=Kaabii;45972857]Freudian slip?[/QUOTE] No, that's what I meant to say. And I've got a pretty good reason for it. What other group constantly has to justify their purchase to themselves and others? Has to consistently insult users of other platforms, and discredit those platforms themselves? Has to always make it known that everyone else is shit-tier compared to them, and lord it above everyone else? That, my friend, is an inferiority complex. They're not confident in themselves or their purchase at all, so they overcompensate. Which is odd, because Android is honestly a fairly even platform comparatively. I have to wonder if it isn't caused by some deep-seated jealousy in the group.
[quote]What other group constantly has to justify their purchase to themselves and others? Has to consistently insult users of other platforms, and discredit those platforms themselves? Has to always make it known that everyone else is shit-tier compared to them, and lord it above everyone else?[/quote] But those are also what define a superiority complex, so it seems like both terms are describing a very similar, if not the same thing. Also, the term inferiority complex stems from Freudian psychology/psychoanalysis so it's not really a real thing as far as conditions defined by real psychology. It seems like both terms really define the same thing which is creating an attitude of superiority to compensate for inner (possibly subconscious) feelings of inferiority. Also I don't think Android users feel inferior. I think it's just all based in purchase justification which is more related to the fact that nobody wants to admit that there is a possibility they wasted money or spent it less effectively than they could have.
I like my phone and it works perfectly for me and am completely satisfied, therefore I can justify the purchase. Why can other people not be like this?
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;45974578]I like my phone and it works perfectly for me and am completely satisfied, therefore I can justify the purchase. Why can other people not be like this?[/QUOTE] Are you saying people are allowed to like things that you don't like? That's simply unacceptable.
[QUOTE=JakeAM;45969124]Planning on queueing at the Sheffield Apple store next Thursday at around 23:30. Do you think ill get one if I queue from then to 8am?[/QUOTE] I stood in line for a 5S (for my friend) last year. I got there at 8am, the line was maybe 20 people long, I got a phone, no worries. Camping out overnight is usually unnecessary, but its fun if you are into it! [editline]14th September 2014[/editline] idk how crazy about apple they are in sheffield though
I can't believe people saying that flagship android lags, because I had low end and high end phone, like now OnePlus One and there is no lag whatsoever. Some people might say that it is not perfect or design in apps is more consistent on iOS, but that does not justify for me x3,14 higher price (comparing 6+ 64 GB to 1+1 64GB). Thats crazy high price, at least for me.
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;45978645]I stood in line for a 5S (for my friend) last year. I got there at 8am, the line was maybe 20 people long, I got a phone, no worries. Camping out overnight is usually unnecessary, but its fun if you are into it! [editline]14th September 2014[/editline] idk how crazy about apple they are in sheffield though[/QUOTE]Apple stores are few an far between outside of London so theres a good chance it will have a longer line.
[QUOTE=Xanoxis;45978800]I can't believe people saying that flagship android lags, because I had low end and high end phone, like now OnePlus One and there is no lag whatsoever. Some people might say that it is not perfect or design in apps is more consistent on iOS, but that does not justify for me x3,14 higher price (comparing 6+ 64 GB to 1+1 64GB). Thats crazy high price, at least for me.[/QUOTE] your Oneplus One isn't an android flagship, though it's also hard to obtain (i know from experience because i'm trying to get an invite for one at the moment)
[QUOTE=Xanoxis;45978800]I can't believe people saying that flagship android lags, because I had low end and high end phone, like now OnePlus One and there is no lag whatsoever.[/QUOTE] Compared to iOS devices they do lag. I have a OPO and Nexus 7, they both lag. Just go to Play store and scroll the front page for example, it's going to drop a bunch of frames when it's loading the pictures for example. iOS is just butter smooth almost all the time. In Android scrolling in a lot of apps has more or less stutter. But this should finally be mostly fixed in Android L.
[QUOTE=Xanoxis;45978800]I can't believe people saying that flagship android lags, because I had low end and high end phone, like now OnePlus One and there is no lag whatsoever. Some people might say that it is not perfect or design in apps is more consistent on iOS, but that does not justify for me x3,14 higher price (comparing 6+ 64 GB to 1+1 64GB). Thats crazy high price, at least for me.[/QUOTE] I had a lot of bad laggy experiences on my Nexus 5, it really let me down when I went on vacation this summer. Often I just ended up using my girlfriend's 4S to get transit directions. [editline]14th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=RautaPalli;45978904]Compared to iOS devices they do lag. I have a OPO and Nexus 7, they both lag. Just go to Play store and scroll the front page for example, it's going to drop a bunch of frames when it's loading the pictures for example. iOS is just butter smooth almost all the time. In Android scrolling in a lot of apps has more or less stutter. But this should finally be mostly fixed in Android L.[/QUOTE] I remember when they said that Butter in Jelly Bean would fix all the lag, it really didn't for me.
[QUOTE=Xanoxis;45978800]I can't believe people saying that flagship android lags, because I had low end and high end phone, like now OnePlus One and there is no lag whatsoever. Some people might say that it is not perfect or design in apps is more consistent on iOS, but that does not justify for me x3,14 higher price (comparing 6+ 64 GB to 1+1 64GB). Thats crazy high price, at least for me.[/QUOTE] I work for a site that does phone reviews and if your Android phone "doesn't lag" it's because you're just not conditioned to notice it. Someone who's used to everything being at 60fps will notice. If Android were perfectly smooth Google wouldn't keep putting out Android updates that tout how it makes Android less janky. Android L wouldn't need the new ART runtime because Dalvik was already perfect and kept everything at 60fps.
Onetime stutter when loading images is not worth that much money, at least for me. I get it that some people prefer that everything is clean and fast, but if you know how to do everything by yourself, Android is great. And we will see how Android L will do. [editline]14th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Kaabii;45979509]I work for a site that does phone reviews and if your Android phone doesn't lag it's because you're just not conditioned to notice it. If Android were perfectly smooth Google wouldn't keep putting out Android updates that tout how it makes Android less janky.[/QUOTE] Nothing is never perfect, it is just good enough to not go mad. I know the difference and saw it.
Android L and ART is pretty good, it's what Google should have done 2 or 3 years ago. I have a Nexus 5 running the dev preview and I like it. The trick is owning a phone that will get it.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;45979542]Android L and ART is pretty good, it's what Google should have done 2 or 3 years ago. I have a Nexus 5 running the dev preview and I like it. The trick is owning a phone that will get it.[/QUOTE] And this is a big deal, because so many Android phones don't get software upgrades to the next major version, if at all. At least with Apple, you're guaranteed to get three or four software updates before they drop support. People always talk about Apple's forced obsolescence, but most Android phones don't even get the next software upgrade after the one they ship with.
[QUOTE=woolio1;45980462]And this is a big deal, because so many Android phones don't get software upgrades to the next major version, if at all. At least with Apple, you're guaranteed to get three or four software updates before they drop support. People always talk about Apple's forced obsolescence, but most Android phones don't even get the next software upgrade after the one they ship with.[/QUOTE] I think the issue with Android flagships may not be that it doesn't get an update, but the time that it may take to get that update. For example, Android 4.4 is now hitting 25% adoption across Google's MAUs. That's pretty great by Android's standards; it has certainly been worse in the past. The issue is how long it took to get there. Android 4.4 is going to be replaced by Android L in the very near future.
[QUOTE=woolio1;45980462]And this is a big deal, because so many Android phones don't get software upgrades to the next major version, if at all. At least with Apple, you're guaranteed to get three or four software updates before they drop support. People always talk about Apple's forced obsolescence, but most Android phones don't even get the next software upgrade after the one they ship with.[/QUOTE] Anyway, if someone wants, he can get the update by custom roms. There is always some CyanogenMod ROM for each phone, ported or not. Yes, it is kind of not for average joe, but hey, you actually can do that. [editline]14th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Kaabii;45980488]I think the issue with Android flagships may not be that it doesn't get an update, but the time that it may take to get that update. For example, Android 4.4 is now hitting 25% adoption across Google's MAUs. That's pretty great by Android's standards; it has certainly been worse in the past. The issue is how long it took to get there. Android 4.4 is going to be replaced by Android L in the very near future.[/QUOTE] That number is going to grow really fast, because Android One. Cheap phones for masses that are forced to use clean Android and Google take care of updates.
[quote]That number is going to grow really fast, because Android One. Cheap phones for masses that are forced to use clean Android and Google take care of updates.[/quote] Yeah but those sorts of phones are slow devices that developers don't care about. You frequently run into [URL="http://gameovenstudios.com/bounden-on-android-delayed/"]hardware fragmentation[/URL] with cheaper devices, which is an even bigger issue with Android than software fragmentation because it's not just confined to the low end.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;45970085]The funny part is that there's still no Android phone that matches Apple's A7 for CPU performance, and its been over a year now and A7 has been replaced.[/QUOTE] there are lots of phones that have faster CPUs than the A7 in multicore performance, the A7 is only good at single threaded applications. do cell phones still use single threaded applications?
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