So I finally managed to afford a Macbook Pro, makes every other laptop seem like ass.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;46040505]No we don't because people's time is more valuable than that. His arguments are cyclical and there's no point continuing further. One thing though
I laughed.
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Glitchability
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Yeah, I've had that happen on my Touch, touch inputs going haywire. It might be just me but the music player also seems a tad slow.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;46041949]Yeah, I've had that happen on my Touch, touch inputs going haywire. It might be just me but the music player also seems a tad slow.[/QUOTE]
The music player team broke the app in iOS 8. Not kept at 60fps sometimes, and it seems to just happen whenever it wants.
i bought myself a 6 plus
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After reading the past 20 pages in this thread, I've come to one conclusion, everyone is as bad as everyone else. But, Xanoxis, you're really in the wrong place. If you like "tech" just read about it, don't come in here to talk about how you don't like it. I hate Apple(The Company) as much as the next man, but you're ruining this thread.
[QUOTE=.Lain;46042043]i bought myself a 6 plus
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it's too fucking big :v:
[QUOTE=garychencool;46042355]it's too fucking big :v:[/QUOTE]
the six is big enough for me! I got my gf to hold my spot in line when i was getting the six so i could go double check the sizes, shits huge.
I think I may have already asked this question before, but I forgot what was said about it. So I have an iPad Mini, an early 2013 model with the non-Retina screen and specs equivalent to an iPad 2 somewhat. It's still on iOS6, but should I upgrade to iOS7? I'm worried about performance and battery life, both of which are still pretty good on 6. I'm okay with iOS7 itself as I have it on my 5C, I'm just worried about performance and battery life is all.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;46043744]I think I may have already asked this question before, but I forgot what was said about it. So I have an iPad Mini, an early 2013 model with the non-Retina screen and specs equivalent to an iPad 2 somewhat. It's still on iOS6, but should I upgrade to iOS7? I'm worried about performance and battery life, both of which are still pretty good on 6. I'm okay with iOS7 itself as I have it on my 5C, I'm just worried about performance and battery life is all.[/QUOTE]
You can't upgrade to iOS 7. iOS 8 is out and the signing window for 7 is closed.
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I have really high standards for performance and I actually sold my OG mini the day iOS 7 came out because I was horrified by how it was compared to iOS 6. 7.1 was a good improvement but then there's a regression going to 8. Don't expect the same performance, that's for sure.
[QUOTE=Xanoxis;46040196]Really? From what you counted, I only dont care about design. How could I not care about software, efficiency or DISPLAY!? Are you nuts? Good monitor is important in gaming and else. 60hz, 120hz, 144hz or other, good colors, speed, resolution, maybe 3D. Color is not as important in gaming as in doing art "stuff" but still is.
Software is important in efficiency, drivers too. Sometimes Linux is better (L4D2 for example), most of the time, Windows. To use Mantle or Dx? Or OpenGl?
What you said about buying gtx970 says how much you know about making good,efficient, cheap and powerfull pc. Its not about buying the best of the best and calling it a day, its about buying something that will be the best option for as low cost as it is possible, and will be future proof, with options to upgrade easly. That means good motherboard, CPU, but also not the best of the best GPU, because they are not worth it, for so much money. You dont buy Titans if you will not use it properly (4k, 120hz). Its better to buy top-end gpu but not the most expensive.
If we talk in car examples, pc gaming is not about look of the car, but it is about cost of the gas per mile, and speed and how it works. And getting it for as low cost as possible. Youre going to drive it to work, not look at it.[/QUOTE]
We're at opposite ends of the spectrum, dude.
My gaming PC is a beast and I was into gaming in high school, but when college rolled around, using my PC for papers, research and that stuff turned into a nightmare. I had an i7 950, 8GB of ram, a 500gb drive, and a fancy 4870 at the time, now a 6970. I'd get blue screens in word, chrome would crash occasionally, steam would freeze now and then... it's the small things that got to me. i didn't even have drive failure and the only system tray things installed were steam, microsoft security essentials, amd control center, etc. I kept good care of that machine, software and hardware, but it still couldn't do what I needed.
If you're using car examples, pc gaming being cost of gas per mile, speed, how it works = a modifiable car that is fast as fuck, turns heads, and is has one loud ass exhaust :rock:
If you've got the extra cash laying around, why spend all of the money upgrading a car when you could buy a tesla and be set on looks, gettin the babes, fuckin bitches, driving fast, havin all that shit for a single cost. now you don't have to worry about the car and swapping parts, rather worry about stuff that's more important. if you're into that, then that's dope, but I would rather be learning jazz, programming, or configuring old ass windows games to run in wine.
it's all perspective, bro. as I said. We're different.
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;46043385]the six is big enough for me! I got my gf to hold my spot in line when i was getting the six so i could go double check the sizes, shits huge.[/QUOTE]
My Nexus 5 just feels right in my hand. I'm just waiting for the next OTA to fix the damn touch screen issues. Too bad it's not going to arrive until mid-October before I even bother using the 1+1 as a daily driver and then get used to the size of it.
Hi guys, just a quick post for advice.
A friend of mine is willing to sell me his Macbook Pro (7.1) Mid 2010 for £360, he's kept it in pristine condition so I was initially ecstatic at such an offer.
Researching a bit more now, i'm wondering if it's worth spending the extra £500, to get a new Macbook Pro w/ Retina?
For the sake of future-proofing and ensuring that I can get maximum value out of my purchase which device should i opt for?
[QUOTE=Metroid;46046686]Hi guys, just a quick post for advice.
A friend of mine is willing to sell me his Macbook Pro (7.1) Mid 2010 for £360, he's kept it in pristine condition so I was initially ecstatic at such an offer.
Researching a bit more now, i'm wondering if it's worth spending the extra £500, to get a new Macbook Pro w/ Retina?
For the sake of future-proofing and ensuring that I can get maximum value out of my purchase which device should i opt for?[/QUOTE]
That's one of the core 2 duo unibodies right? I would steer clear of that and buy at least a 2011 years model with the i5 or i7. I bought my 2011 13 inch 2.7 GHz i7 for the equivalent of £500 last year and it's still going strong, even though I'm about to sell it now
I was looking at some of the benchmarks Anandtech just put up today and now I'm wondering whether I will get the 6 plus or not. There was a 3D benchmark test and the plus took a big hit on performance compared to the regular 6.
I was hoping to use the plus as an all-in-one mobile device. My primary use cases are browsing and gaming. I was planning to only have it a year and then sell it in favor of 6S+ with more RAM but now I'm twitchy.
I'm going to a store tonight to mess with some demo models, though the size of the plus was never going to be an issue for me.
My friend was offered a 2010 27" iMac from his friend but not yet a price, how much would you guys say its worth? From what I've read on ebay I'm thinking £600-700?
2.8GHz quad core i5
4GB 1333MHz
1TB hard drive
ATI Radeon HD 5750 Graphics Card
It's in good condition.
[QUOTE=Shaun555;46049464]I was looking at some of the benchmarks Anandtech just put up today and now I'm wondering whether I will get the 6 plus or not. There was a 3D benchmark test and the plus took a big hit on performance compared to the regular 6.
I was hoping to use the plus as an all-in-one mobile device. My primary use cases are browsing and gaming. I was planning to only have it a year and then sell it in favor of 6S+ with more RAM but now I'm twitchy.
I'm going to a store tonight to mess with some demo models, though the size of the plus was never going to be an issue for me.[/QUOTE]
You also have to check for what you are using your phone for. I ordered the 6 but i am going from iPhone 4 to 6 so the difference will be massive anyhow.
What i mainly use my phone for is facetime, whatsapp, Civilization, a bunch of 2D games and several other social media apps. All of them which still work nearly flawlessly on my iPhone 4.
Are you really going to play all these fancy high-end games or do you use your phone for browsing, messaging and calling?
Oh and besides that, the camera was also a big plus, especially the slow motion feature, hnng.
Basically why i stick to iPhone is because i used it since the 4, the camera is always good, iOS is just incredible and i can't get the same feel in Android (got a Nexus 7), Facetime, shit just works.
I upgraded from a 4 to a 6 last week, and man it's an insane improvement. I'm glad your 4 was running well for you but mine was a piece of shit :v: I think mostly because I updated to iOS 7. You're going to be blown away by how every aspect has improved since the 4. The main things for me have been the CPU speed and the camera. They make the phone a joy to use.
Going from a goddamn single core 700 MHz CPU to a dual core 1.5 GHz CPU. The 6 uses the same GPU chip used in the PS Vita :v:
All in all this switch is going to be exciting for me.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;46051079]Going from a goddamn single core 700 MHz CPU to a dual core 1.5 GHz CPU. The 6 uses the same GPU chip used in the PS Vita :v:
All in all this switch is going to be exciting for me.[/QUOTE]
No no. The iPad 3 from 2012 used the same GPU as the Vita. The iPhone 6 is way faster than the Vita for GPU. Like, 3x faster.
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[QUOTE=MisterM;46050042]My friend was offered a 2010 27" iMac from his friend but not yet a price, how much would you guys say its worth? From what I've read on ebay I'm thinking £600-700?
2.8GHz quad core i5
4GB 1333MHz
1TB hard drive
ATI Radeon HD 5750 Graphics Card
It's in good condition.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't pay that much for it. Those BT 2.1 macs basically can't use any of the Yosemite features.
[QUOTE=Kaabii;46051196]No no. The iPad 3 from 2012 used the same GPU as the Vita. The iPhone 6 is way faster than the Vita for GPU. Like, 3x faster.
[editline]22nd September 2014[/editline]
I wouldn't pay that much for it. Those BT 2.1 macs basically can't use any of the Yosemite features.[/QUOTE]
I got a call from my iPhone via my late 08 MacBook, so what's up with that?
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;46051237]I got a call from my iPhone via my late 08 MacBook, so what's up with that?[/QUOTE]
Call relay uses WiFi, and SMS Relay just rides atop the iMessage protocol. That's pretty much the only thing, the rest have to use BT for discovery for security reasons. No Handoff, no shared extensions, no instant hotspot IIRC.
Didn't consider that Kaabii, thanks for your input you always know your stuff!
With that I'd say £500 then, my friend has an iPad and an iPhone so he sure would make use of all those features.
Was browsing Imgur and damn there is a scary high amount of Apple hate around that site.
Also can someone explain how the iPhone 6 being a 1.5 GHz dual core is still coming very close in benchmark results to the Galaxy S5 which is a 2.5 GHz quad core?
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Well at least its number 1 in the Sunspider (browsing) benchmark :v:
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[QUOTE=darth-veger;46054433]Was browsing Imgur and damn there is a scary high amount of Apple hate around that site.
Also can someone explain how the iPhone 6 being a 1.5 GHz dual core is still coming very close in benchmark results to the Galaxy S5 which is a 2.5 GHz quad core?
[editline]23rd September 2014[/editline]
Well at least its number 1 in the Sunspider (browsing) benchmark :v:
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better CPU and software design
[QUOTE=darth-veger;46054433]Was browsing Imgur and damn there is a scary high amount of Apple hate around that site.
Also can someone explain how the iPhone 6 being a 1.5 GHz dual core is still coming very close in benchmark results to the Galaxy S5 which is a 2.5 GHz quad core?
[editline]23rd September 2014[/editline]
Well at least its number 1 in the Sunspider (browsing) benchmark :v:
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Smaller platform so more hardware/software optimalisation.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;46054433]Was browsing Imgur and damn there is a scary high amount of Apple hate around that site.
Also can someone explain how the iPhone 6 being a 1.5 GHz dual core is still coming very close in benchmark results to the Galaxy S5 which is a 2.5 GHz quad core?
[editline]23rd September 2014[/editline]
Well at least its number 1 in the Sunspider (browsing) benchmark :v:
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because throwing cores around randomly does not solve the problem.
quad core processors aren't going to make average smartphone use cases much better at all. faster individual cores makes way more sense with current smartphones
Besides the fact that only a small handful of apps in the Play store actually utilize multiple cores. :v:
[QUOTE=darth-veger;46054433]Was browsing Imgur and damn there is a scary high amount of Apple hate around that site.
Also can someone explain how the iPhone 6 being a 1.5 GHz dual core is still coming very close in benchmark results to the Galaxy S5 which is a 2.5 GHz quad core?[/QUOTE]
It's just how Android works, it uses Linux kernels and runs a Java virtual machine
called Dalvik which turns the app, which is in hex-code into byte-code, in order to run natively. Every time you open the app after force closing, it has redo all of the byte-code. It needs more resources to run the basic things on Android before any other apps are even in use. If an app needs to do something, on Android it may take more lines of code to do than on iOS. The more time required is usually compensated in some way with the faster CPU on Android devices.
If you have any programming history and have used Java, you probably hate it in some way. It's known to be a resource hog and not super efficient sometimes.
Windows Phone devices have similar specs to iPhone's because the apps on iOS and Windows Phone are native and don't require the extra effort and resources required with Android. Which is why Windows Phone and iOS can render so damn smooth while a higher end Android device lags more often.
You could compare it with Windows computers with higher end specs to Android, and iMacs with lower end specs to iOS. Although the iMacs have lower specs, it can perform just as well or faster than the Windows machine with higher end specs, depending on the task.
If anything, the new Android Runtime is going to replace the slow, laggy Dalvik ways by making parts of the app ready for native use, skipping the compiling of byte-code every time you open the app. This generally gives you better battery life and runs apps faster but makes the app itself slightly larger, hence uses a little bit more storage space.
TL;DR: iOS has better optimization, performance and workflow than Android.
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