Android Thread V4 - Got money? Samsung Galaxy S II. No money? ZTE Blade. - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=garrynohome;30949377]Rogers version will be Tegra 2, because they take the AT&T version. Must suck when your rival carrier has the AMOLED and Exynos exclusive to themselves. [editline]6th July 2011[/editline] Maybe this will lead to good gpus in HTC devices.[/QUOTE] So wait... the AT&T version of the Galaxy S II won't have the Super AMOLED?!?

[QUOTE=Squad;30950750]So wait... the AT&T version of the Galaxy S II won't have the Super AMOLED?!?[/QUOTE] The device that went through with the AT&T bands was the I9103. That's tegra 2 and LCD. Sucks to be you guys.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;30951064]The device that went through with the AT&T bands was the I9103. That's tegra 2 and LCD. Sucks to be you guys.[/QUOTE] You have to be shitting me. I am beyond pissed. I just want to get a decent phone and of course the one decent phone that I have been waiting for is going to be released as a piece of shit.

IGNhelper was wrong. I9103=Galaxy Z. AT&T bands are the same as the UK bands. I9103 is not the AT&T SGS II. What I imagine you guys will get is the same as everyone else, except with a different shell and more bloatware.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;30951190]IGNhelper was wrong. I9103=Galaxy Z. AT&T bands are the same as the UK bands. I9103 is not the AT&T SGS II. What I imagine you guys will get is the same as everyone else, except with a different shell and more bloatware.[/QUOTE] I just did some research and it says that the i9103 is the Galaxy Z and that the original Galaxy SII (the same they got in Europe) was approved for the AT&T friendly bands... But then the article said it wasn't sure which would be released... I am assuming they would release both and just have a price difference? $199.99 for Galaxy SII and maybe $149.99 for the Galaxy Z. I don't know... All I know is I hope the Galaxy gets to America soon and I hope it is the same as the rest of the world. Also, the text wrapping on the new text boxes sucks. I just did some more reading. Someone is saying, [quote] Unlike last year where each carrier had their own branded Galaxy S device, the rumor is that the same device will go to all three carriers. [/quote] [url]http://thedroidguy.com/2011/07/samsung-breaks-another-galaxy-sii-record-and-its-still-not-in-us/[/url] Meaning, it is more than likely (if this is correct anyways) AT&T will get the correct version of the Samsung Galaxy SII.

If you're on AT&T, can't you just buy an UK phone?

[QUOTE=SilverHedgehog;30951840]If you're on AT&T, can't you just buy an UK phone?[/QUOTE] I'd rather pay $199.99 + monthly fees rather than $899.99 + monthly fees.

[quote]Unlike last year where each carrier had their own branded Galaxy S device, the rumor is that the same device will go to all three carriers.[/quote] So Verizon sprint and t-mobile are building HSPA networks with the 850mhz band just for this device? That's very impressive. Please note that the droid guy has no idea what he's talking about. If they were all getting the same device then we wouldn't already have the carrier specific names.

[QUOTE=Squad;30951857]I'd rather pay $199.99 + monthly fees rather than $899.99 + monthly fees.[/QUOTE] How much do you pay?

[QUOTE=PyroCF;30949182]I'd personally recommend buying it sim free from Amazon or something and grab a SIM only contract. If you want signal go with Vodafone or anything that uses their signal (talk mobile for example).[/QUOTE] Do Vodafone have good 3G speeds? (I'm in Milton Keynes, [B]the[/B] official worst city for 3G so I'm not expecting much) I don't know anyone with them. If they are good then I can just get one of the contracts listed [url=http://www.comparemobiledeals.com/mobile-phones/Samsung/Galaxy-S2?&tab=Pay-Monthly&page=1&term=12&internet=yes]here[/url] (Dialaphone are part of phones4u and onestop are part of cpw)

[QUOTE=garrynohome;30951921]So Verizon sprint and t-mobile are building HSPA networks with the 850mhz band just for this device? That's very impressive. Please note that the droid guy has no idea what he's talking about. If they were all getting the same device then we wouldn't already have the carrier specific names.[/QUOTE] I am not saying he knows what he is talking about, but different names don't mean much. The Galaxy S was a different phone on all carriers, maybe the Galaxy S II will remain unchanged throughout the carriers and just have the different names. I don't see them building 4 new phones like they did with the Galaxy S.

[QUOTE=Squad;30952352]I am not saying he knows what he is talking about, but different names don't mean much. The Galaxy S was a different phone on all carriers, maybe the Galaxy S II will remain unchanged throughout the carriers and just have the different names. I don't see them building 4 new phones like they did with the Galaxy S.[/QUOTE] How? Did you not see me explain that you would need to change the radios? Even if it's just a radio change it's essentially a different device. You won't be able to flash roms onto the CDMA versions without different modem files.

What I mean by the same phone, is same processor, same internal storage, same ram, same screen. The same stuff that people care about. With the Galaxy S, the AT&T version had 16GB internal storage, whereas the Verizon version had like 2GB... Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Verizon was like the first to be out with high-end android smartphones in the U.S., and now they're really falling behind in that department!

[QUOTE=DanTehMan;30954238]Verizon was like the first to be out with high-end android smartphones in the U.S., and now they're really falling behind in that department![/QUOTE] Because no companies with good hardware want to bother making separate phones with CDMA radios. HTC is really the only company that does. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] In fact, the US is completely behind in anything related to cell phones. Whether it's network quality or device quality, you're behind everyone else. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Squad;30952855]What I mean by the same phone, is same processor, same internal storage, same ram, same screen. The same stuff that people care about. With the Galaxy S, the AT&T version had 16GB internal storage, whereas the Verizon version had like 2GB... Sorry for the misunderstanding.[/QUOTE] Well other than internal storage all the US devices were the same. So you've just restated what I said except for putting in that the verizon version had less storage. But everyone considers the devices different, so if the SGS II's have different shells, they're different phones.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;30954298] In fact, the US is completely behind in anything related to cell phones. Whether it's network quality or device quality, you're behind everyone else. [/QUOTE]You must've never been to Russia then.

How many US/Canada Galaxy variants were there? I know Bell had the Vibrant, Rogers had the Captivate, there was the Epic, Fascinate... Were there any others? I'm glad Bell is just taking the stock Galaxy S2 though. Those devices, even though have pretty much the same internals didn't have the same dev community, did they?

INCREDIBLE S YES. HOORAY.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;30954298] In fact, the US is completely behind in anything related to cell phones. Whether it's network quality or device quality, you're behind everyone else.[/QUOTE]I think that partially has a lot to do with Verizon and Sprint having a LOT invested in CDMA and EVDO. Those two carriers (in my experience) seem to give the best coverage. GSM and such haven't really had the same treatment with AT&T and T-Mobile. I mean, AT&T just launched service in our state a few months ago, since they bought the Alltel equipment.

I'll take a slightly inferior phone for the glorious coverage I get on verizon. Until some major software leaps we're kind of at the point of diminishing returns for hardware advances. Gingerbread on a 1ghz snapdragon is, as far as actual usage, indistinguishable from the same software on a faster dual core. I'd be okay with better battery life too, but I can get up to 36 hours out of my thunderbolt.

[QUOTE=Pandamobile;30955195]How many US/Canada Galaxy variants were there? I know Bell had the Vibrant, Rogers had the Captivate, there was the Epic, Fascinate... Were there any others? I'm glad Bell is just taking the stock Galaxy S2 though. Those devices, even though have pretty much the same internals didn't have the same dev community, did they?[/QUOTE] The Bell vibrant is the i9000. You're thinking of the T-mobile Vibrant which is a custom device. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] Also Qualcomm announced their new krait 28nm based chips with the adreno 320 will launch in Q3 and will do 60hz 1080p. That's great news, except exynos does 1080p stereoscopic 3D at 70hz over HDMI 1.4. [editline]7th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=demonguard;30956040]Gingerbread on a 1ghz snapdragon is, as far as actual usage, indistinguishable from the same software on a faster dual core. I'd be okay with better battery life too, but I can get up to 36 hours out of my thunderbolt.[/QUOTE] I call bullshit on this post. If that were true then the SGS II would not be noticably faster than the SGS running TW4. You can try and justify your thunderbolt all you like and try and downplay advances by saying "slightly inferior" but dual cores are noticeably faster, in fact the lag and app launch times that even my 1.4GHz Hummingbird has are eliminated, and the hummingbird is way ahead of the snapdragon in the thunderbolt. You people claiming that software isn't made to take advantage of dual cores are completely oblivious to the fact that Android gingerbread supports dual cores and multithreaded processing for the OS. It makes a HUGE difference.

[QUOTE=Plectophera;30955365]INCREDIBLE S YES. HOORAY.[/QUOTE]enjoy your locked bootloader !

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;30956625]enjoy your locked bootloader ![/QUOTE] So have you flashed any roms on your SGS II?

[QUOTE=garrynohome;30956454] You people claiming that software isn't made to take advantage of dual cores are completely oblivious to the fact that Android gingerbread supports dual cores and multithreaded processing for the OS. It makes a HUGE difference.[/QUOTE] I quite seriously notice no lag at all in my daily usage, running CM7 and a 1.2 overclock.

Well, the Bionic is finally on the home stretch! [URL]http://thisismynext.com/2011/07/06/exclusive-droid-bionic-verizon-leak/[/URL]

[QUOTE=garrynohome;30956454] You people claiming that software isn't made to take advantage of dual cores are completely oblivious to the fact that Android gingerbread supports dual cores and multithreaded processing for the OS. It makes a HUGE difference.[/QUOTE] Except that my old iPhone 3G still runs smoother than your precious SGSII. You shouldn't have to buy a dual core phone to have things run and look well.

[QUOTE=SilverHedgehog;30959030]Except that my old iPhone 3G still runs smoother than your precious SGSII. You shouldn't have to buy a dual core phone to have things run and look well.[/QUOTE] No, the SGSII runs very smooth.

-snipped because of dumb'ness. Sweden tends to "give" that to people.

what apps can even use dual core processing

I've got a HTC Legend running CM7.0.3 with a Sandisk 16GB Class 4 MicroSD. Once every week or two, half the folders disappear on my SD card including installed apps. Do you guys have any ideas as to the cause of the issue and solutions?