[QUOTE=K1ngo64;46102566]A lot of people have been saying the current EVGA cards are actually really low quality compared to the rest this time round[/QUOTE] ehh, well i'll judge it when I get it.
their warranties and support are amazing regardless.
and my current 570 is EVGA and still churning 3yrs later.
[QUOTE=ClaBrendon;46102538]so sad really
and yeah get an EVGA
im STILL waiting for mine to ship, come on Amazon.[/QUOTE]
If you didn't see in sipwicket, I just grabbed a GTX 285. The most powerful nVidia GPU XFX ever put out... hopefully it still works. I remember dreaming of that card when I got my XFX GTS 250.
Definitely gonna replace my 670 ASAP, now just to pick between the 980 and 970...
970, performance for price is wayyy better than the 980
[QUOTE=ClaBrendon;46103072]970, performance for price is wayyy better than the 980[/QUOTE]
Yeah I ordered a 970 purely because it is pretty much half the cost with similar performance. Had to get the ASUS Strix model thought because it is shorter than others which wouldn't have fit in my case.
What about MSI? Anything wrong with it?
I'm thinking of using this one for my first build, so I'm going to replace XFX R9 290 to this, since it's cheaper.
[editline]29th September 2014[/editline]
I'm getting 970 here.
MSI is fine. Nothing wrong with their 970s.
I dunno whether I should get a 980 or just go with a 970. I mean, I know the 970 has better performance to price ratio but I just want to feel comfortable with having the top end hardware for once.
[QUOTE=MasterFen006;46105715]I dunno whether I should get a 980 or just go with a 970. I mean, I know the 970 has better performance to price ratio but I just want to feel comfortable with having the top end hardware for once.[/QUOTE]
Don't do it!
I did that with the 780 when it had been out for a week weeks, cost me £510, like 2 months later when the TI came out it got dropped to £400, now the 780Ti goes less for that and the 980 is only £20 quid more than £400.
Unless you are a big spender and can back it up, the 970 is a much better deal for the price. Never buy top end hardware just to have top end hardware, it won't last long and it'l just feel sour. Buy for the performance you need.
[QUOTE=rhx123;46106070]Don't do it!
I did that with the 780 when it had been out for a week weeks, cost me £510, like 2 months later when the TI came out it got dropped to £400, now the 780Ti goes less for that and the 980 is only £20 quid more than £400.
Unless you are a big spender and can back it up, the 970 is a much better deal for the price. Never buy top end hardware just to have top end hardware, it won't last long and it'l just feel sour. Buy for the performance you need.[/QUOTE]
Guess I can get a 970 and overclock it closer to 980 specs, is the Twin Frozr card the best for cooling and acoustics or is there something better?
I just put in the MSI twin frozr, yep the fans aren't running at all on idle. Can't do any other testing right now, but definitely 100% quieter than the evga at idle since the evga doesn't stop spinning when it is idle.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/QAnEGNq.png[/t]
Also the MSI came with a fairly large mouse pad as well, which I didn't know about. The mousepad is pretty nice, but my mouse literally hates every mouse pad ever.
also the mousepad smells really bad
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;46103059]Definitely gonna replace my 670 ASAP, now just to pick between the 980 and 970...[/QUOTE]
Get the 970, save a little more and go Sli if you need more performance. I upgraded to a Zotac 970 from a 670FTW and it was a very good boost. Games play a minimum of 40fps at 1080p with everything (including AA) maxed. you can max everything with like 2xMSAA and be happy at >60fps though, at least I am. Around 4x you'll probably hover at 60, and only playing maxed out at 8xAA will you get occasional framedrops.
[QUOTE=MasterFen006;46105715]I dunno whether I should get a 980 or just go with a 970. I mean, I know the 970 has better performance to price ratio but I just want to feel comfortable with having the top end hardware for once.[/QUOTE]
The 980 is definitely nice but the 970 is no slouch and $200 cheaper. Up to you whether $200 right now is worth saving.
Has anyone compared their GTX 970/980's VRAM usage to their previous cards'? I've been hearing that Maxwell's colour compression significantly lowers the VRAM usage.
There are a few [URL="http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/09/18/nvidia_maxwell_gpu_geforce_gtx_980_video_card_review/4#.VCnA4PmSyaU"]article[/URL]s floating around that go deep in how this actually works. Unfortunately, none of them seems to be comparing [I]actual[/I] results.
GameGPU usually does these VRAM usage benchmarks, perhaps with Shadow of Mordor we'll find out soon enough.
I've read that too but sadly I never monitored my 6950's VRAM usage.
Does the compression actually compress textures and stuff? Is it making games look worse?
But more importantly does this mean I can run shadow of mordor on ultra ("6gb vram required") due to compression?
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;46108926]I've read that too but sadly I never monitored my 6950's VRAM usage.
Does the compression actually compress textures and stuff? Is it making games look worse?
But more importantly does this mean I can run shadow of mordor on ultra ("6gb vram required") due to compression?[/QUOTE]
The compression is lossless, the image quality won't be degraded. Pretty amazing, to say the least.
Regarding Shadow of Mordor, I wouldn't know. I'm just as curious to see what additional eye-candy the optional texture pack brings. And whether the new Maxwell cards would be able run the game with ultra textures without any stuttering. Just waiting for the benchmarks, now.
[QUOTE=faizilm10;46112004]The compression is lossless, the image quality won't be degraded. Pretty amazing, to say the least.
Regarding Shadow of Mordor, I wouldn't know. I'm just as curious to see what additional eye-candy the optional texture pack brings. And whether the new Maxwell cards would be able run the game with ultra textures without any stuttering. Just waiting for the benchmarks, now.[/QUOTE]
Well I have the game on steam and when I look under DLC that I have downloaded I don't see ultra quality textures, but if I do have them my benchmark for the game averaged at 72 fps on ALL ultra settings (If you just select the ultra preset it leaves ambient occlusion at high)
Uploaded a shadowplay recording of the in-game benchmark
[hd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhb1bKVmKk8&feature=youtu.be[/hd]
there are spikes down to 20 fps that look kind of like stutters.
I haven't done any overclocking yet
[editline]30th September 2014[/editline]
I assume I probably do not have the ultra texture pack though. Since idk where the hell to get it.
Yeah I had the ultra option as well. My memory use was ~3300 MB on ultra so who knows if it was downloaded.
Here's my results. I never actually saw it hit min or max. It stuck around 70-100. And on my 60 Hz monitor that is fine with me :D
[t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/535124313253924477/6DB2ECFB163CEC2C7673CDFD1681F47CB8D6A3FC/[/t]
[editline]30th September 2014[/editline]
Also that stutter COULD be shadow play. I got stutter a few times with it but that could've been just coincidence.
That or shadowplay is doing some batch writing / encoding during those stutters. I'm probably wrong though.
[editline]30th September 2014[/editline]
After restarting the game it now uses all my VRAM. I also realized Ambient Occulision was on high. High to ultra is a 10 FPS hit in the benchmark (82). Shadowplay was another 8 for 74 fps (not as high as a hit fraps).
Yeah, VRAM is something that will gradually increase over time. Also, the note in the settings say that you must have the ultra HD texture pack installed, otherwise there won't be any difference when going from high to ultra.
[url]http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/09/ShadowOfMordor-2014-09-25-20-55-27-91png[/url]
Not sure what Monolith is waiting for. Anyway, it's surprising to see that there aren't any AA options. SMAA should be a must for all PC games, SSAA is a performance hog.
Also, thrawn, do you have the GTX 970 or the 980?
EDIT: try this for the HD content: steam://install/311670/
980
Amazon gave me a delivery date
Est between Oct 22nd - Nov 5th.
It usually ships in 1-2months says the product page. Well, at least i can earn back the money i technically took out of my budget now.
I'm going to be building my first PC in the next few months and I think I'm going to buy a 980 (Gotta love Student Loans!)
I don't know what brand to go with though, initially I was set on getting a Gigabyte Windforce but then I started reading reviews and they all said the cards were always crashing and support was poor; never fixed the issues.
I really like the look of EVGA cards, more so their SLI Bridge connector - on that topic, would you guys recommend to 960's or a single 980?
So who should I go with? EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS, Zalman?
a single 970, EVGA.
MSI, ASUS and Gig are reputable too.
the 970's price for performance is much better than the 980.
Do the EVGA 970s have decent cooling? I was considering the MSI since they cool passively under idle.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;46112186]Yeah I had the ultra option as well. My memory use was ~3300 MB on ultra so who knows if it was downloaded.
Here's my results. I never actually saw it hit min or max. It stuck around 70-100. And on my 60 Hz monitor that is fine with me :D
[t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/535124313253924477/6DB2ECFB163CEC2C7673CDFD1681F47CB8D6A3FC/[/t]
[editline]30th September 2014[/editline]
Also that stutter COULD be shadow play. I got stutter a few times with it but that could've been just coincidence.
That or shadowplay is doing some batch writing / encoding during those stutters. I'm probably wrong though.
[editline]30th September 2014[/editline]
After restarting the game it now uses all my VRAM. I also realized Ambient Occulision was on high. High to ultra is a 10 FPS hit in the benchmark (82). Shadowplay was another 8 for 74 fps (not as high as a hit fraps).[/QUOTE]
Do you have multi monitor setup? I know that there is/used to be a bug with Shadowplay and multi monitor configs that caused stuttering.
[QUOTE=MasterFen006;46116647]Do the EVGA 970s have decent cooling? I was considering the MSI since they cool passively under idle.[/QUOTE]
I have a superclocked EVGA 970 and it still runs cooler than my 650 did.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;46117130]I have a superclocked EVGA 970 and it still runs cooler than my 650 did.[/QUOTE]
Is it loud?
That I can't really attest to. I normally have two or three fans on in my room anyways so they drown out any sounds my computer makes.
Here's a new video with the HD texture pack installed. I don't see any difference in performance really. Also doesn't look that different either. So it isn't super important at all.
[hd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht4_AZlTrE0&feature=youtu.be[/hd]
Anybody know when the 900 series cards on Amazon are finally gonna get in stock? I've been sitting on "
"Temporarily out of stock" for my order for a while now with no emails updating me on the status
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