• Couple questions here.
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Dude, you're a cunt. You expect to use GNU/Linux as if it's Windows. If you don't have the time, temper and patience to learn GNU/Linux, leave. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - birkett))[/highlight]
Any time you get something new you have to learn it a little. Kinda like when you get a new cell phone, it takes you days to get used to the interface. It's the same with Linux. Once you're used to the new interface, you'll never want to go back to the old one.
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;21798516]I'd use Chrome/Chromium for the internet browser. Also, if you ever want to use one of those system monitors integrated into the desktop that you see in the desktop threads, use Conky. It's a bitch to set up, but it's so worth it once you're done.[/QUOTE] I scoured google for people's conky setups, and borrowed code of at least 4 different conkyrc files, with [b][i]extensive[/i][/b] modifications made by me configured to my desktop and it's resolution. Eventually, I came to make my own simple clock with date. Simple, small, and gets the job done. [img]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2807/screenshotkcf.jpg[/img]
I thought you were gonna delete Win 7.
[QUOTE=xxncxx;21805215]How do I install those, every time I download something its a tar.gz. Its like they expect me to know C++ programming and Open Source like its easy.[/QUOTE] Sounds like you downloaded source code and were looking at directions for compiling it. That's not the normal way to install things, and nobody expects you to be able to do it right from the start. Installing software on Linux systems works differently from what you're used to in Windows and MacOS. You generally [i]don't[/i] go to the program's website and download it there; instead you use your distribution's package system. You've already seen Synaptic, which is the comprehensive package manager that lists everything Ubuntu has available, but most of the packages you see listed there are components of applications that get installed automatically when they're needed, not things you'd typically want to install directly. What you should do is run the Ubuntu Software Center, which you'll find on the Applications menu. That presents a nicer interface showing just applications that one might want to install. No tar.gz files, no compiling. Just pick an application and click the install button.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;21805468]Actually turb_'s command needs to have sudo at the beginning. It's minor, but most new users wouldn't know that.[/QUOTE] Woops, my bad. The only Linux is use regularly is on my dedi and I always login as root - so never typing sudo is a habit inb4 flames about always running as root [editline]06:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=xxncxx;21805813]brian@brian-laptop:~$ apt-get install chromium-browser qemu gcc nasm gedit mono-2.0-devel E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? brian@brian-laptop:~$ Explain that bullshit now.[/QUOTE] Hmmm... let's see. [quote]E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), [b]are you root?[/b] [/quote] [editline]06:51PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ButtsexV2;21805904]And if you're going to be hostile, you don't need to be on the internet.[/QUOTE] this. [editline]06:51PM[/editline] [QUOTE=CPPNOOB;21805929]Dude, you're a cunt.[/QUOTE] this.
Oh fantastic. The great unwashed roll into the Linux forum and it's OUR fault that Linux isn't free windows. Well it isn't, it's better and if you'd take 30 seconds to realise that instead of whining like a child at your first hurdle, you'd comprehend that. There is so much documentation for getting started with Linux out on the web that it's not even worth me googling it for you. The most base differences you will find: 1. You are not admin by default, but you can masquerade as admin 2. File extensions are none essential and mostly a formality. 3.Everything is case sensitive hello.txt is not the same file as Hello.txt Once you start to acknowledge these (and other) differences may you can start solving your problems instead of beating your head against a wall and crying.
Alright, sorry for the 'cunt' like behavior. I had a rough day. Adding sudo at the beginning of the command posted before worked. Does this mean that the installation is finished? [code]Processing triggers for libc-bin ... ldconfig deferred processing now taking place[/code]
It would go back to the prompt you can type in when it is finished.
Alright its done. These programs are going to be in my applications right? [editline]06:53AM[/editline] Seriously where are they? I can't find them. [editline]06:57AM[/editline] Come on someone reply I can't find these anywhere.
Assuming you're using Ubuntu. They'll probably be in the "applications" menu in the top left hand corner of the screen. Also. As to "Processing triggers for libc-bin" mostly everything with lib in the name is a library. Think of a library as a toolkit of code that multiple applications can dip into.
[QUOTE=Cluckyx;21810078]Assuming you're using Ubuntu. They'll probably be in the "applications" menu in the top left hand corner of the screen. Also. As to "Processing triggers for libc-bin" mostly everything with lib in the name is a library. Think of a library as a toolkit of code that multiple applications can dip into.[/QUOTE] Not if it's [just] indicated it's a package full of binaries. I think that package contains things like catchsegv and friends.
When you install a new application, its name generally becomes the command to run it. So you installed gEdit. Type in gedit to a terminal and it will open it up.
They'll come up in the applications menu in the top left, but really I don't know why anybody suggested you should use the terminal in the first place, use the software center it's the easiest way to get applications in Ubuntu. (as mentioned by Wyzard a few posts up). And don't keep ammending worthless crap to your posts xxncxx, we can see your post not everybody is sitting at their computer waiting to help you 24/7. If you want more immediate help you might want to check #ubuntu on freenode, but once again, these people are all helping in their spare time, they don't owe you anything, patience and common courtesy go a long way towards getting help. Also CPPNOOB take your worthless superior attitude somewhere else, it's obvious you're only here because you read articles about how much windows sucks and how Microsoft is bad (see: uses 'GNU/Linux' and is generally against Mono although I highly doubt you have any idea of the issues behind either of these). [editline]01:42AM[/editline] [QUOTE=redonkulous;21810836]When you install a new application, its name generally becomes the command to run it. So you installed gEdit. Type in gedit to a terminal and it will open it up.[/QUOTE] Why are you suggesting this. Would you tell a user new to windows that they should open up the command prompt and run their newly installed applications? There is a perfectly serviceable menu. Well actually the default gnome menu is pretty crappy for doing things smoothly and fast, but it's fine for the majority of users.
[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;21813301]They'll come up in the applications menu in the top left, but really I don't know why anybody suggested you should use the terminal in the first place, use the software center it's the easiest way to get applications in Ubuntu. (as mentioned by Wyzard a few posts up). And don't keep ammending worthless crap to your posts xxncxx, we can see your post not everybody is sitting at their computer waiting to help you 24/7. If you want more immediate help you might want to check #ubuntu on freenode, but once again, these people are all helping in their spare time, they don't owe you anything, patience and common courtesy go a long way towards getting help. Also CPPNOOB take your worthless superior attitude somewhere else, it's obvious you're only here because you read articles about how much windows sucks and how Microsoft is bad (see: uses 'GNU/Linux' and is generally against Mono although I highly doubt you have any idea of the issues behind either of these). [editline]01:42AM[/editline] Why are you suggesting this. Would you tell a user new to windows that they should open up the command prompt and run their newly installed applications? There is a perfectly serviceable menu. Well actually the default gnome menu is pretty crappy for doing things smoothly and fast, but it's fine for the majority of users.[/QUOTE] Thats the problem, they aren't showing up in my applications folder after I installed them through terminal. Is that the problem? If I install it through terminal, Can I only activate it through terminal?
[QUOTE=xxncxx;21813822]Thats the problem, they aren't showing up in my applications folder after I installed them through terminal. Is that the problem? If I install it through terminal, Can I only activate it through terminal?[/QUOTE] Try reinstalling them trough Ubuntu Software Center
try rebooting first
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;21814573]try rebooting first[/QUOTE] This isn't windows.
[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;21813301] Why are you suggesting this. Would you tell a user new to windows that they should open up the command prompt and run their newly installed applications? There is a perfectly serviceable menu. Well actually the default gnome menu is pretty crappy for doing things smoothly and fast, but it's fine for the majority of users.[/QUOTE] He couldn't get them in applications, so I gave him another way to try. Terminal really isn't that hard. If you are going to stick with Linux you will need to be all kinds of familiar with it. I guess you don't need to, but it makes life so much easier.
[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;21814843]This isn't windows.[/QUOTE] it's not so much the restarting the computer that helps, it's restarting X and Gnome.
[QUOTE=Van-man;21813957]Try reinstalling them trough Ubuntu Software Center[/QUOTE] I did do that with Chromium, but even when I get QEMU it doesn't show up, so I downloaded AQEMU, is that the same? gEdit is already installed. I can't find NASM or Mono. Also, how exactly do I use QEMU?
[QUOTE=redonkulous;21814863]He couldn't get them in applications, so I gave him another way to try. Terminal really isn't that hard. If you are going to stick with Linux you will need to be all kinds of familiar with it. I guess you don't need to, but it makes life so much easier.[/QUOTE] You don't really need to be familiar with it, and throwing it at new users is pretty bad imo. [editline]03:31AM[/editline] [QUOTE=ButtsexV2;21814936]it's not so much the restarting the computer that helps, it's restarting X and Gnome.[/QUOTE] There is no reason for it not to work as it is. [editline]03:36AM[/editline] [QUOTE=xxncxx;21815115]I did do that with Chromium, but even when I get QEMU it doesn't show up, so I downloaded AQEMU, is that the same? gEdit is already installed. I can't find NASM or Mono. Also, how exactly do I use QEMU?[/QUOTE] What are you looking to do? Are you just installing random applications on a whim or what? There is no need for you to install mono. It's already there. gedit is installed with the system by default, and unless you're developing you don't want to install gcc. (and if you did want to develop you'd want to be installing the 'build-essential' package anyway) Actually here is something you'd probably be interested in. [url]http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/04/ubuntu-1004-post-install-guide-what-to.html[/url]
[QUOTE=xxncxx;21815115]I did do that with Chromium, but even when I get QEMU it doesn't show up, so I downloaded AQEMU, is that the same? gEdit is already installed. I can't find NASM or Mono. Also, how exactly do I use QEMU?[/QUOTE] Qemu you use from the command line, it's a CPU emulator, and is capable of running pretty much any OS. NASM is an assembler that you probably don't need, and mono is .net for linux, and doesn't need to be run directly.
[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;21815435]You don't really need to be familiar with it, and throwing it at new users is pretty bad imo. [editline]03:31AM[/editline] There is no reason for it not to work as it is. [editline]03:36AM[/editline] What are you looking to do? Are you just installing random applications on a whim or what? There is no need for you to install mono. It's already there. gedit is installed with the system by default, and unless you're developing you don't want to install gcc. (and if you did want to develop you'd want to be installing the 'build-essential' package anyway) Actually here is something you'd probably be interested in. [URL]http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/04/ubuntu-1004-post-install-guide-what-to.html[/URL][/QUOTE] Somebody in here gave him a random list of applications like gcc and qemu. Both of which won't show up in the Applications menu because they're command line based. Ah here it is: [QUOTE=turb_;21791593]Chromium, QEMU, GCC, NASM, gEdit, mono. I use them often when I boot into Linux. There's your recommendations[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=xxncxx;21809449]Come on someone reply I can't find these anywhere.[/QUOTE] If you're referring to the "chromium-browser qemu gcc nasm gedit mono-2.0-devel" that you installed: [list] [*]Chromium should be in the Applications menu, under "Internet". [*]QEmu has no icon in the applications menu because it's a command-line tool that should be run from a terminal window. It's for creating and running virtual machines, which you may or may not actually have a use for. If you want a GUI for it, you can install "qemu-launcher", which will show up on the Applications menu under Accessories. [*]gcc is a compiler, a programming tool that you have no use for if you're not interested in programming. It's command-line tool so there's no menu icon. [*]nasm is an assembler, another programming tool that's related to a compiler. Like gcc, it's command-line-based and you probably have no use for it. [*]gedit is a text editor. It should be in the Applications menu as "gedit Text Editor", under Accessories. [*]mono-2.0-devel is a collection of more programming stuff you don't need. [/list] [editline]01:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=xxncxx;21813822]If I install it through terminal, Can I only activate it through terminal?[/QUOTE] No, some programs have menu icons and some don't, but it has nothing to do with whether you installed them via apt-get, synaptic, or the Ubuntu Software Center. The result is the same either way.
[QUOTE=LinuX;21807994]I thought you were gonna delete Win 7.[/QUOTE] I have, it's gone. I still use the free space though. Haven't got around to changing the drive name or icon yet.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;21814936]it's not so much the restarting the computer that helps, it's restarting X and Gnome.[/QUOTE] Control Alt Backspace.
It's always handy to be logged in to a virtual terminal. (CTRL+ALT+F1). That way you can kill apps (killall APPNAME). gnome-session is generally what you want to kill X with.
[QUOTE=CPPNOOB;21824916]It's always handy to be logged in to a virtual terminal. (CTRL+ALT+F1). That way you can kill apps (killall APPNAME). gnome-session is generally what you want to kill X with.[/QUOTE] I just use pkill X
[QUOTE=Baldr;21824339]Control Alt Backspace.[/QUOTE] iirc Ubuntu disables that by default. Or at least it used to.
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