[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992637]I have a 1KW unit, but it's rated for like 95% efficiency for most of the curve, and I go up to maybe 65-70% usage.
So i'm wasting plenty of heat, just trying to sound correct and smug.[/QUOTE]
I know. Conceptually, smace is correct. He is not correct in saying the difference in efficiency is staggering between the 550W unit and the 750W unit. When you look at the numbers it's not really a big deal, it's just down to "Well how much money do I want to spend on a PSU? Will I be CF/SLIing in the future?" So on and so forth.
[QUOTE=ijyt;35992413]Also what did I mess up in regards to the v-sync explanation?[/QUOTE]
Tearing is when a frame is pushed to the monitor in the while the monitor is in the middle of drawing another. It's not simply when the framerate is higher than the refresh rate.
That's what I was point out.
[QUOTE=smace;35992619]Dunno, even if I post the correct information and someone else disagrees with me by a marginal level wingless and the same other dudes will just dumb spam. Kind of feels like it, [b]I don't understand how some people can get so enraged in a argument about power supplies and GPU's.[/b][/QUOTE]
Not everyone fist mashes their keyboard then they're in an argument, I don't think it's a good idea speaking such absolutes, text doesn't translate these things well.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;35992662]I know. Conceptually, smace is correct. He is not correct in saying the difference in efficiency is staggering between the 550W unit and the 750W unit. When you look at the numbers it's not really a big deal, it's just down to "Well how much money do I want to spend on a PSU? Will I be CF/SLIing in the future?" So on and so forth.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not a big difference at all.
I don't think it's anything to worry about infact. :v:
[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992668]Tearing is when a frame is pushed to the monitor in the while the monitor is in the middle of drawing another. It's not simply when the framerate is higher than the refresh rate.
That's what I was point out.[/QUOTE]
But it's related to the FPS output by the card, or am I wrong in that regard too?
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I don't want to get it wrong next time round.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992678]No, it's not a big difference at all.
I don't think it's anything to worry about infact. :v:[/QUOTE]
That's the argument I was making :P
I just thought that smace going "OH GOD THE DIFFERENCE IN WATTAGE, THINK OF THE EFFICIENCY" was... not the brightest statement.
meh I'm a hippy when it comes to energy. I fold so I try to balance my power supply with my system usage.
[QUOTE=ijyt;35992682]But it's related to the FPS output by the card, or am I wrong in that regard too?
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I don't want to get it wrong next time round.[/QUOTE]
It's more correct to say that it's related to the timing of when the frames are outputting, not so much the amount of frames. You can't fit more than 60 frames per second in 60hz, so you're effectively guaranteed to get tearing at higher-than-refresh-rate-fps, however, having a FPS higher than the refresh rate is not the reason the screen tears, it is simply the root cause in that case.
Play a game at 30fps and turn off Vsync, it will still tear because the frames being sent to the screen aren't being sent when the screen is ready to refresh the panel.
It's a timing issue.
[QUOTE=smace;35992707]meh I'm a hippy when it comes to energy. I fold so I try to balance my power supply with my system usage.[/QUOTE]
Why not just set up things like automatic hibernation and whatnot. Sure, folding is good but it's still using power, just hibernate or even sleep when you're not using your PC would make a world of difference.
Guys, I think my boss is snoring. I hear what sounds like snoring.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992726]It's more correct to say that it's related to the timing of when the frames are outputting, not so much the amount of frames. You can't fit more than 60 frames per second in 60hz, so you're effectively guaranteed to get tearing at higher-than-refresh-rate-fps, however, having a FPS higher than the refresh rate is not the reason the screen tears, it is simply the root cause in that case.
Play a game at 30fps and turn off Vsync, it will still tear because the frames being sent to the screen aren't being sent when the screen is ready to refresh the panel.
It's a timing issue.[/QUOTE]
Would this mean monitors with lower response times would tear more or less?
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[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992743]Guys, I think my boss is snoring. I hear what sounds like snoring.[/QUOTE]
I remember when I walked out to my lounge room once, my dad was asleep on the couch and I kept hearing snoring. I thought it was him but turns out it was the dog.
Response time is related to the time the pixel takes to change color. The refresh rate is the sync speed of the monitors electronics.
A low response time would simply make the tearing sharper looking.
I gotta stop ROM hopping with my damn phone... I just can never decide on what I want :(
[QUOTE=wingless;35992734]Why not just set up things like automatic hibernation and whatnot. Sure, folding is good but it's still using power, just hibernate or even sleep when you're not using your PC would make a world of difference.[/QUOTE]
I know, but I'm part of a folding team so I must conserve as much as I can but I can't just stop folding. I just can't let my team get beaten by the Chinese... thats low man.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992761]Response time is related to the time the pixel takes to change color. The refresh rate is the sync speed of the monitors electronics.
A low response time would simply make the tearing sharper looking.[/QUOTE]
That would explain why my (awful) BenQ has prettier tearing than my Asus (about the only thing it does better)
[QUOTE=smace;35992765]I know, but I'm part of a folding team so I must conserve as much as I can but I can't just stop folding. I just can't let my team get beaten by the Chinese... thats low man.[/QUOTE]
What're the specs of your folding rig?
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;35992764]I gotta stop ROM hopping with my damn phone... I just can never decide on what I want :([/QUOTE]
Welcome to Android.
I should set up my main PC for folding, its not doing anything right now without a monitor anyway..
[QUOTE=PyroCF;35992786]Welcome to Android.[/QUOTE]
Maemo for life.
YOU ARE FUCKING KIDDING ME
Glad we're all back to loving each other again.
We all love each other until someone gets smace'd in the eyes
[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992816]Glad we're all back to loving each other again.[/QUOTE]
We always love each other
Sometimes there are just... outcasts
[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992816]Glad we're all back to loving each other again.[/QUOTE]
I always love you guys.
[QUOTE=ijyt;35992780]What're the specs of your folding rig?[/QUOTE]
my folding rig has a 8120, which is cheap and okay for folding then I have a dual-sli of 460's with a slight OC.
But I'm setting up another 8120 rig today with a 6870, its all I can afford but aslong as it helps fend off the Chinese... so many chinese with shitty hardware... so many.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992129]We have a bunch of old ATA drives and I'd like to some how use them in my server since my work has no need for them. Can I some how get a IDE backplate like in the Norco chassis I was getting? No need for hotswap I suppose, I can boot down and take them out since IDE hates hotswap.
Basically, I want to use all these old drives until they die. Can I buy SATA logic boards for them and just swap them?[/QUOTE]
Any ideas?
[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992846]Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
You should be able to remove the SATA Backplates on the top row (or whatever row, really) and just stick some IDE cables there, I've never heard of someone switching the controllers to SATA from IDE, though.
I meant more like, I could get a separate drive chassis and throw in old drives then attach it via eSATA or something to the mobo.
I want the main 16 bay chassis to be decent though not brand new SATA drives. Then this separate chassis full of shitty drives that I plan on thrashing.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;35992903]I meant more like, I could get a separate drive chassis and throw in old drives then attach it via eSATA or something to the mobo.
I want the main 16 bay chassis to be decent though not brand new SATA drives. Then this separate chassis full of shitty drives that I plan on thrashing.[/QUOTE]
I'm not gonna say it's impossible to swap the boards over, but it's not worth the trouble. Not easy to get your hands on the raw boards for one, so you'll have to buy new drives anyway, and even if that wasn't an issue, different drives use different types of connections to the R/W heads inside. Too much trouble than it's worth. Best to find a way to make use of IDE.
Figured I could get a bunch of those IDE to SATA adapters, put them in an internal cage and hook them to a SATA card....
Which brings me back to another question I had for awhile... With SAS cards each SAS can expand out to hook many SATA connections right? Can someone link me to a card and the cables I need? I found an INtel card with 4 miniSAS and it says it supports up to 122 devices, but... what
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