• Goodbye Windows XP ?
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[QUOTE=dropp;17831854]my friend installed XP on his laptop and had a hard time finding sound drivers. few days later he installed windows 7 and he didn't even need to install a sound driver; it was done automatically. he did have problem installing his cellular phone modem though, but he managed to do it with the compatibility mode without any issues whatsoever. XP has been in our hearts for a long time. i think it's safe to say that it's time to move on. also, i don't miss XP, the same way i don't miss windows 98SE which i used a long time ago. sure, they were great for their time but things change and improve.[/QUOTE] That's the thing. Most people try running a setup and if it doesn't work, they give up and never look back. People need to know about: A) Running as administrator B) Compatibility mode which are things that solve your compatibility problems more than 90% of the time.
Im glad that quiet a few of my fellow facepunchers kinda agree, But yeah we do need to move on i suppose...
[QUOTE=GammaFive;17831406]Schools and many stores and companies are still going to use Xp. Amusingly enough, I went into an antique shop and the person was using windows 95 at the cash register.[/QUOTE] I think my city's main train station (Manchester Piccadilly if anyone's interested) uses pre-2000 to control the monitors with the timetables on them. I saw the software had crashed on one of the monitors and the desktop looked like 98 or 95 or something. So considering that 95 is still being used in places, despite slowly dropping off everyone's support ladder XP probably won't die for a long time.
^^ True. I doubt XP will disappear as 7 due to the price of operating systems at the moment.
I hope XP dies... it's just too old now w00t 900th post
[QUOTE=j00g0t0wnd;17831408]In case you didn't notice, not that many people care about UNIX.[/QUOTE] The entire world revolves around UNIX. Cisco routers, mainframes, old computers calculating your payroll (assuming you have a job), webservers, firewalls, embedded devices... A large percentage of those boxes are running some derivation of UNIX. Though, quite frankly, I'm not sure exactly what he meant by his "selling the sources" comment. As for the OP, XP will die when the enterprises move on. And they'll move on when the support contract's end is near.
Vista made XP look like shit, and 7 basically made XP look like outdated, unsecure shit. Despite it being horrid, many people are going to use XP until they get a new computer. Mainly because Vista and 7 don't run so well on older machines.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;17836050]Mainly because Vista and 7 don't run so well on older machines.[/QUOTE] Windows 7 runs very well on my low-powered EEE pc and my other 4 year old laptop so that isn't really an excuse.
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;17831412]XP is the most stable, well-rounded OS I've ever used. When stuff starts to become exclusive to Vista or 7, not because it needs to be but because people want it to be, I will rage. XP works best and I see no reason to not keep supporting it.[/QUOTE] Because it's an outdated piece of shit that's getting less support every day.
[QUOTE=Eleventeen;17831540]It's my [b]opinion[/b].[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but this is the internet.
[QUOTE=gparent;17834046]The entire world revolves around UNIX. Cisco routers, mainframes, old computers calculating your payroll (assuming you have a job), webservers, firewalls, embedded devices... A large percentage of those boxes are running some derivation of UNIX. Though, quite frankly, I'm not sure exactly what he meant by his "selling the sources" comment. As for the OP, XP will die when the enterprises move on. And they'll move on when the support contract's end is near.[/QUOTE] I'm talking about the consumers. If you look at some statistics and priorities, you'll notice that nobody really gives a shit about UNIX. Only hardcore fans of it like you still support it.
[QUOTE=tankkiller;17836970]Because it's an outdated piece of shit that's getting less support every day.[/QUOTE] I don't see why it's a piece of shit. I've rarely had problems with the operating system itself. Almost every error or bluescreen I've had has been the result of a third-party program going wonky.
[QUOTE=j00g0t0wnd;17837953]I'm talking about the consumers. If you look at some statistics and priorities, you'll notice that nobody really gives a shit about UNIX. Only hardcore fans of it like you still support it.[/QUOTE] Even consumers care. Microsoft cares. They even consider it a threat, especially in the netbook market where post-XP can't compete. It's not really an accurate statement. And I don't know what you're talking about; I'm not an hardcore fan, and I don't support UNIX. When I said UNIX (in the revolves around post), I meant UNIX. That includes a lot of proprietary solutions I don't really care about (or "support"). I support some of the better design and features that Linux has, but that's about it.
[QUOTE=j00g0t0wnd;17837953]I'm talking about the consumers. If you look at some statistics and priorities, you'll notice that nobody really gives a shit about UNIX. Only hardcore fans of it like you still support it.[/QUOTE] It's a pretty solid base but. As time goes by Windows is aquiring (the fucking obvious) UNIX princples. It's a slow process, but it's happening. [editline]10:42PM[/editline] Also XP sucks I want my start menu search on my netbook christ
[QUOTE=Dr Egg;17849820][editline]10:42PM[/editline] Also XP sucks I want my start menu search on my netbook christ[/QUOTE] I second that, I cannot stand having to actually find the links to programs when I use XP now. I can't wait to put the RTM version on my EEE pc, if it runs as well as the RC then it is going to be sweet.
[QUOTE=Veers;17836938]Windows 7 runs very well on my low-powered EEE pc and my other 4 year old laptop so that isn't really an excuse.[/QUOTE] But XP would run better. It's a fact.
I'm going to use XP until I won't be able to anymore (games not being compatable, etc). Why fix something that isn't broken? I'm happy where I am.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;17853427]But XP would run better. It's a fact.[/QUOTE] Except XP is more annoying to use, crashes more, is more vulnerable, less good-looking, and running out of people supporting its old ass. I'd gladly trade a few seconds of my life for the convenience of not having to put up with such shit.
[QUOTE=j00g0t0wnd;17853948]Except XP is more annoying to use, crashes more, is more vulnerable, less good-looking, and running out of people supporting its old ass. I'd gladly trade a few seconds of my life for the convenience of not having to put up with such shit.[/QUOTE] Indeed.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;17853427]But XP would run better. It's a fact.[/QUOTE] There was a benchmark comparing XP/Vista/7 in a recent magazine. Windows 7 either performed a little better than XP or was barely slower (About 5%) on almost everything. I think the 5% loss in speed is well worth everything you gain.
[QUOTE=Veers;17854242]There was a benchmark comparing XP/Vista/7 in a recent magazine. Windows 7 either performed a little better than XP or was barely slower (About 5%) on almost everything. I think the 5% loss in speed is well worth everything you gain.[/QUOTE] Where was this at because last I saw a bench with all 3 Win7 topped everything.
[QUOTE=Panda X;17854277]Where was this at because last I saw a bench with all 3 Win7 topped everything.[/QUOTE] Yeah I was a bit off, decent sized pic below btw. [media]http://www.veers32.net/img/ccf.jpg[/media] Edit: Just saw that they compared 32 bit XP to 64 bit Windows 7 as well. The 32 bit version might be a little slower in some of the test.
[QUOTE=Veers;17854242]There was a benchmark comparing XP/Vista/7 in a recent magazine. Windows 7 either performed a little better than XP or was barely slower (About 5%) on almost everything. I think the 5% loss in speed is well worth everything you gain.[/QUOTE] ... I'm talking about NETBOOKS. Vista runs like shit on anything with a shit video card, which most netbooks have. XP is much better to use on low end machines and netbooks, due to it being created for machines back in 2002, which are in a way similar to netbooks.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;17854604]... I'm talking about NETBOOKS. Vista runs like shit on anything with a shit video card, which most netbooks have. XP is much better to use on low end machines and netbooks, due to it being created for machines back in 2002, which are in a way similar to netbooks.[/QUOTE] And I am talking about comparing XP to Windows 7, which is almost as fast to much faster in almost everything. In any case windows 7 runs very, very well on my EEE pc.
[QUOTE=Veers;17854636]And I am talking about comparing XP to Windows 7, which is almost as fast to much faster in almost everything. In any case windows 7 runs very, very well on my EEE pc.[/QUOTE] I can agree with 7 being fast on a netbook.
I've been using Windows XP since 2002, and Loved the upgrade from Windows 98SE. Plug&Play actually WORKED, where Windows 98SE claimed it was Plug&Play, when it really wasn't. It was more like Plug&FuckWithDrivers. So I generally found driver installation and hardware configurations much easier on XP than 98SE. Also, XP Autoconfiged my network connections, which blew my mind... no more manually entering IP addresses, default gateways, or subnet masks. XP also had a much more colorful appeal to it beyond the typical grey-on-teal theme. The blue Bliss desktop was a nice change. When I moved from XP to Vista, my PC loved the upgrade, but I wasn't so thrilled. (I only upgraded because of stability issues, which Vista fixed for me.) Vista isn't too bad of an Os, but it made my hardware run hotter, and my harddrives were constantly caching when I wanted them to power down and stay idle. Then Vista wouldn't let me open animated GIFs in the picture Viewer anymore... they showed up as a still image. Depressing. They also removed GIF wallpaper support, which I also used. Despite these negative things, Vista seemed more robust, like there was more going on under the hood, and Microsoft did their best to make it transparent to the user.I completely fell in love with DreamScene and the Sidebar. I used the sidebar with my gadgets, so that when I maximized a Firefox window, I could still see my harddrives, my clock, calendar, and the local weather outside. Now Windows 7 is out, and I'm loving the changes made since Vista. SuperFetch isn't such a disk cruncher, and I gained a Gig of RAM back... But I miss my Sidebar. -_- Now if I maximize my window, it covers my gadgets, and it's just wrong. I did however switch to 64-bit, and haven't found a reason to go back to 32-bit at all. Ever again. The new Aero theme rocks, and I use Aero Snap every day for moving files from one folder to another. Overall, I'd have to say that my Windows 7 experience has left me happy. My main gripes are the lack of DreamScene, Vista's Sidebar, and the inconsistent icons. It bugs me that they left so many Vista icons in it... I wanted a fresh and new icon set. PNG icons would have been nice too, but nope... we're still stuck with .ico files forever. Windows 7 added VHD mounting support, but ISO mounting is still not in here. Anyways, I'll wrap this up: 7, You are my true love. Marry me. Give me children and chocolate. :3: Vista, I'm breaking up with you. It's just not working out. (It's not you, it's me.) :colbert: XP, You've been my best friend for years, but it's time to move on. Have a great life my friend, I wish you the best. :angel:
They had a massive update for Windows XP on the 14th. 13 updates. So XP's going nowhere.
How massive?
Lol, he just said 13 updates worth of massive. Did you skip the middle part? :rolleye:
Well it's 'massive' to me. Usually I only see a few updates. Not that many at once.
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