General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=PredGD;43796123][url]http://tny.cz/e624bbf0[/url] got it! apparently it doesn't like long passwords in SFTP [editline]5th February 2014[/editline] yeah, but why does it keep crashing? it's been happening a lot frequently[/QUOTE] Googling the error, the first few results are related to OpenJDK. Double check which version of Java you're using, Minecraft only supports Oracle's JVM.

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;43799668]I have a question about which distro to use for my purpose. I have a friend on WinXP, he has an AMD XP 2500 Barton and 1.5gb ram. He uses this computer for office work and cruising online mostly, listening to music too. He isn't interested in buying Win7/8 for this computer. My idea is to set him up with Linux, and show him Libreoffice. I have a 4gb USB stick I'd like to use instead of a CD/DVD. I've made a bootable stick with Pendrive and Mint 16. Now I know I need to use that 'persistent' option to make and keep changes to my Linus drive but how large? If I have 3.xgb free on the USB stick do I use all of it for the persistent thing? Or do I need to reserve some of that drive for other things. It's formatted for FAT32 btw. Or is Mint too big of a distro to use for this purpose. I'd like to show him how Linux can play music and video, so I figured Mint was the way to go. I'm willing to go with another flavor and add the parts I need if that'll work better.[/QUOTE] Using the rest of the flash drive for persistence is generally a good idea. If constantly burning *.ISOs to flash drives taught me anything, a decent [url=http://www.linuxliveusb.com/]USB creator[/url] will generally set the maximum persistence size to whatever's left after the *.ISO size is calculated. And if Mint isn't satisfying to him, try Kubuntu.

[QUOTE=kaukassus;43796210] Also, My private "cloud" containing all my important services (proxy, owncloud, mediawiki, gitlab, etc...) is secured with a 8192 bit RSA certificate, so I might seem a bit paranoid.[/QUOTE] I got so hard thinking about setting up a "private cloud" that I sat down one day and did it. The only time I've connected to it was to set it up. What a waste. :v:

[QUOTE=jetboy;43800910]I got so hard thinking about setting up a "private cloud" that I sat down one day and did it. The only time I've connected to it was to set it up. What a waste. :v:[/QUOTE] I generally use it for school work. And also to host my password manager, So I can access my 50 char passwords from everywhere.

[t]http://i.imgur.com/gvBZZUa.png[/t] Spent all night setting up Arch. Got everything working (got all the way to GNOME desktop!) and then I fucked it with a driver update. So I installed Antergos instead. I really like Arch so far. Pacman seems faster than apt, and the AUR is really cool.

[QUOTE=rilez;43802532]Spent all night setting up Arch. Got everything working (got all the way to GNOME desktop!) and then I fucked it with a driver update. So I installed Antergos instead.[/QUOTE] This confuses me. How do you install a driver so badly that you need to start over from scratch?

[QUOTE=rilez;43802532][t]http://i.imgur.com/gvBZZUa.png[/t] Spent all night setting up Arch. Got everything working (got all the way to GNOME desktop!) and then I fucked it with a driver update. So I installed Antergos instead. I really like Arch so far. Pacman seems faster than apt, and the AUR is really cool.[/QUOTE] Welcome to Arch, remember: if you want lock/sleep related features you'll have to install and use GDM with Gnome, and if you want a nice, simple, dark, gtk theme check out numix-themes in community. [editline]asdf[/editline] Oh yeah and make sure you have the NetworkManager (case-sensitive) service enabled for gnome's networking integration.

I didn't really need to start from scratch. I broke the DM screwing with Plymouth and the NVIDIA proprietary drivers. I found Antergos randomly while looking up a fix, figured I might as well try it. I hadn't set up anything besides GNOME, while Antergos comes with stuff pre-installed. It ended up saving me some time. So now I'm just messing about with that and Manjaro, trying to decide which I like more.

[QUOTE=Larikang;43804653]This confuses me. How do you install a driver so badly that you need to start over from scratch?[/QUOTE] I used to start from scratch with Arch a few times in the beginning because I didn't know how to revert or fix things :v:

I'm really digging this Manjaro Cinnamon release. This is a pretty tough choice. Not as bleeding edge as Arch, but damn it's a lot more convinient. And I can still use AUR/pacman. It also has up to date Nvidia drivers installed, that's not something I was expecting whaddy'all think?

[QUOTE=rilez;43802532]I really like Arch so far. Pacman seems faster than apt, and the AUR is really cool.[/QUOTE] I admit, as much as I hate Arch, in a different distro pacman would be a damn nice package manager.

[QUOTE=lavacano;43805671]I admit, as much as I hate Arch, in a different distro pacman would be a damn nice package manager.[/QUOTE] just out of curiousity, why do you hate Arch?

[url]http://askubuntu.com/questions/406531/cant-reach-wi-fi-signal-on-ubuntu-but-can-do-it-on-other-os-devices[/url] I'm so goddamned happy! These steps fixed my wifi and now I can use Ubuntu again at my university! I don't totally understand exactly what the steps mean. So happy though!

[QUOTE=PredGD;43805938]just out of curiousity, why do you hate Arch?[/QUOTE] Their management makes some poor decisions (the most infamous being the whole /lib thing, which definitely didn't have blatant enough warning and iirc required manual intervention). Also, I have a passionate dislike for systemd.

I'm probably going to build a PC soon. I won't use it for gaming a whole lot, but I will have two monitors running (and some day, I'll have three). Should I go ATI or nVidia for three monitor general productivity (not gaming) in Linux? Can open source drivers support it, on one card?

[QUOTE=lavacano;43806233] Also, I have a passionate dislike for systemd.[/QUOTE] oh so you're one of THOSE people

I don't know, but for some reason I really like Systemd. [editline]6th February 2014[/editline] Like, it feels really modern and clean.

[QUOTE=lavacano;43806233]Their management makes some poor decisions (the most infamous being the whole /lib thing, which definitely didn't have blatant enough warning and iirc required manual intervention). Also, I have a passionate dislike for systemd.[/QUOTE] I don't get the dislike for systemd. Is it the journal? Is it because things have changed? I like systemd :< Also the dpi scaling on this system I got at my internship is strange. It looks even blurrier then at home. Could just be the screen.

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;43807458]I don't get the dislike for systemd. Is it the journal? Is it because things have changed? I like systemd :< Also the dpi scaling on this system I got at my internship is strange. It looks even blurrier then at home. Could just be the screen.[/QUOTE] Some people did go into rage mode, because their initscripts/Services/Whateverthefuck is not a shell script anymore. And because AFAIK the systemd does not follow the unix principles.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;43804858]Welcome to Arch, remember: if you want lock/sleep related features you'll have to install and use GDM with Gnome[/QUOTE] Works fine without GNOME for me, I do use GDM though. Shit didn't work on Debian when I used that though, I made a little shell script that ran in the background as a service, when I used Debian.

[QUOTE=kaukassus;43807614]Some people did go into rage mode, because their initscripts/Services/Whateverthefuck is not a shell script anymore. And because AFAIK the systemd does not follow the unix principles.[/QUOTE] These are some of the issues that are problematic for some people, but to me personally, I just prefer to run the operating system by itself, not on top of another operating system.

Systemd lets other userland software leverage all the powerful new functionality added into the kernel, not sure why people are against having Linux that actually fucking works. Under sysvinit and Upstart, you just double-fork and oops, suddenly the program's gone the fuck away, and the init can't kill it. Systemd can actually keep track of shit. Not to mention being event-based is just how Linux works nowadays, it's more powerful, more understandable, it's faster, and it works. Not to mention Systemd developer actually give a shit about their users. After Jacob Appelbaum had a talk with one of the developers, the guy went ahead and added in a patch that instantly locks the machine when it detects a forensics mouse "jiggler" being plugged in.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;43808446]These are some of the issues that are problematic for some people, but to me personally, I just prefer to run the operating system by itself, not on top of another operating system.[/QUOTE] I gotta agree with that. Systemd covers many aspects previously done by other applications. There is one thing I certainly like, and thats the logind replacement of consolekit. However, as far as it looks like, systemd does the job, and it does it good. [editline]6th February 2014[/editline] But Still one of my opinion is this: Systemd > Upstart

[QUOTE=nikomo;43808516]Systemd lets other userland software leverage all the powerful new functionality added into the kernel, not sure why people are against having Linux that actually fucking works. Under sysvinit and Upstart, you just double-fork and oops, suddenly the program's gone the fuck away, and the init can't kill it. Systemd can actually keep track of shit. Not to mention being event-based is just how Linux works nowadays, it's more powerful, more understandable, it's faster, and it works. Not to mention Systemd developer actually give a shit about their users. After Jacob Appelbaum had a talk with one of the developers, the guy went ahead and added in a patch that instantly locks the machine when it detects a forensics mouse "jiggler" being plugged in.[/QUOTE] So wait systemd protects against stuff like mouse jiggler. Does it also stop the rubber ducky? Or am I misinterpeting what the mou jiggler is? [editline]6th February 2014[/editline] In other news I've bypassed the firewall block rules for ssh, irc etc at the company I'm doing my internship at :3 [t]http://i.imgur.com/yei6cXv.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;43808544]So wait systemd protects against stuff like mouse jiggler. Does it also stop the rubber ducky? Or am I misinterpeting what the mou jiggler is?[/QUOTE] Mouse jiggler is a HID device, so it simulates a mouse, and just moves the mouse around 1 pixel at a time at an interval. Systemd uses ID-based detection for it, so granted, it's not the most powerful thing in the world, since the manufacturer can just get another manufacturer ID to defeat it, or the attacker can just buy the product from someone that's not on the blacklist yet and it'll work. Won't stop the rubber ducky, it's a much more powerful platform, and I'm fairly sure it's a bad idea to blacklist the ID for that.

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;43808544] In other news I've bypassed the firewall block rules for ssh, irc etc at the company I'm doing my internship at :3 [t]http://i.imgur.com/yei6cXv.png[/t][/QUOTE] SSH was blocked here aswell. Until I assigned a private unfiltered IP-range for myself under the name "IT Maintenance Range". Now I never have to worry about not being able to connect to VNC or SSH. Such is life having access to every piece of hardware at work.

I don't have access to the firewall and from what I've seen it's as complex as the fucking ISS. So I did that instead.

I got around ours at work by forwarding non-standard ports in the 10000 range at home. They aren't being used for anything anyway and it seems to fool it for both RDP and SSH.

Been using mint for about an hour or two and rather liking it so far. Is it possible to change the colour of the toolbar? I'd prefer a black rather than grey.

[QUOTE=Leestons;43812794]Been using mint for about an hour or two and rather liking it so far. Is it possible to change the colour of the toolbar? I'd prefer a black rather than grey.[/QUOTE] I think it's one of the right click options on the toolbar.