General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

I like where this is heading.

Speaking of which I should probably upgrade my Debian install to unstable. When I installed it originally, I never really realized how out of date stable was until I noticed Iceweasel was version 17. :v: I've read its as simple as changing your repositories though. So that shouldn't be too bad.

[QUOTE=nikomo;43909876]Ubuntu is switching to Systemd, top lel. [url]http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316[/url] Now there's like what, Gentoo and Slackware or something that don't have Systemd by default, since they don't have defaults.[/QUOTE] Actually our default is OpenRC. We do have the ability to switch to systemd though if we wanted to.

[QUOTE=lavacano;43911547]Actually our default is OpenRC. We do have the ability to switch to systemd though if we wanted to.[/QUOTE] Indeed, although I rather prefer OpenRC to progress. It's very simple, gets the job done rather fast, and is really easy to maintain and use. Sure there's not dumb configuration, but I'd rather have scripts than ini files. The only lacking area is parallel starting of services, which seems to be experimental still. I didn't have any issues when I used it though, but I'll wait until it's production ready.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;43913380]Indeed, although I rather prefer OpenRC to progress. It's very simple, gets the job done rather fast, and is really easy to maintain and use. Sure there's not dumb configuration, but I'd rather have scripts than ini files. The only lacking area is parallel starting of services, which seems to be experimental still. I didn't have any issues when I used it though, but I'll wait until it's production ready.[/QUOTE] Honestly I'm not sure the concurrency is a big issue, unless you reboot often. That's not to say speed doesn't mean anything (Windows boot times after any system use are unbearable), but as long as it is reasonably quick (on the order of seconds, not minutes) then concurrency is really just a novelty anyway.

[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;43913935]Honestly I'm not sure the concurrency is a big issue, unless you reboot often. That's not to say speed doesn't mean anything (Windows boot times after any system use are unbearable), but as long as it is reasonably quick (on the order of seconds, not minutes) then concurrency is really just a novelty anyway.[/QUOTE] concurrency is a no-brainer for services that don't depend on each other; combined with socket activation it's crazy fast to bring a system up.

[QUOTE=danharibo;43914785]concurrency is a no-brainer for services that don't depend on each other; combined with socket activation it's crazy fast to bring a system up.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying concurrency is wrong, it is most certainly the only reasonable design for init system at present, I'm only saying it isn't a make-or-break feature. Systemd was a complete redux of the init system, so it could do things The Right Way from the ground up in its design (like exploiting multi-core systems being the norm). SysV, and thus OpenRC somewhat by default, share a legacy in a time where concurrency wasn't as feasible or important. Even though its the right thing to do, those extra tens of seconds (if that), that you save by starting independent processes concurrently isn't the criterion you should base your choose of init system on.

[QUOTE=kaukassus;43909794]rainbows[/QUOTE] [url]http://akaros.cs.berkeley.edu/akaros-web/news.php[/url] Is going to use code from it, sounds interesting except the glibc part. Now i'll go figure out how to compile and run plan 9 on real hardware instead of a VM.

Does anyone know if it's possible to use Intel integrated graphics as a pass thru with a VM? I've been reading posts about virtualization with two discrete cards. I want to use the integrated graphics with free drivers to render the Linux desktop, and my Nvidia card to run the VM exclusively. I would much rather have a working VM than a dual boot or wine set up. Anyone know how to do this?

[QUOTE=rilez;43919512]Does anyone know if it's possible to use Intel integrated graphics as a pass thru with a VM? I've been reading posts about virtualization with two discrete cards. I want to use the integrated graphics with free drivers to render the Linux desktop, and my Nvidia card to run the VM exclusively. I would much rather have a working VM than a dual boot or wine set up. Anyone know how to do this?[/QUOTE] Never tried it myself, but you could read up on it: XEN: [url]http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_VGA_Passthrough[/url] KVM: [url]https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162768[/url]

[IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/K6WfcOG.png[/IMG_THUMB] My desktop and my server/HTPC.

I have a laptop here, an Acer 5750G, it've been running some debian based distros (mint, and currently crunchbang). When I 'poweroff' - [U]sometimes[/U] it just hangs. Hangs (halts) at the system log with a message like [%uptime%] Power off and then I have to hold the power off button to finally end this. What it might be? I have no idea, especially when it's not that always it can't shutdown properly.

I have a question about Arch. I've been running Funtoo on my desktop for about a year or three now, and my netbook is running Arch Linux (simpler and easier and faster to get fully set up), but somehow the root partition on Arch takes up 11G after having cleaned up a lot, and on my desktop the Funtoo root partition is only a mere 5.3G (not counting portage distfiles and such). My netbook only has Firefox, Skype, and some other stuff like nitrogen for background image setting and thunar for file manager, using the Awesome-WM as WM, where as my desktop has a full blown XFCE desktop installed with all of the aforementioned installed, along with some additional packages for animation and modelling and design. [editline]15th February 2014[/editline] Oh, the question being: does anyone know why?

It shouldn't be that big, do a 'du -xhd1 /' and try to find what's using all that space.

Well it seems that most of the space is taken by /usr (7.9G), and I ran the command inside that directory as well and both share and lib seems to be taking up insane amounts. I guess something is installed that shouldn't be, because a share directory of 2.9G and a lib directory of 3.6G seems insane.

[code]pacman -Qi|awk '/^Installed Size/{print int($4), name} /^Name/{name=$3}'|sort -nr[/code] That will list packages installed with the installed size in KB.

[QUOTE=ben1066;43921234][IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/K6WfcOG.png[/IMG_THUMB] My desktop and my server/HTPC.[/QUOTE] Why are you running such an old kernel? That kernel came out like 2 weeks ago.

kernel-2.6.32-431.el6 Masterrace

[QUOTE=kaukassus;43925047]kernel-2.6.32-431.el6 Masterrace[/QUOTE] I think my Gingerbread Android phone is running a 2.6 based kernel.

I'm still on 3.11 on my desktop. If I upgrade it breaks fglrx.

linus branch mustard race on my laptop.

[QUOTE=nikomo;43925008]Why are you running such an old kernel? That kernel came out like 2 weeks ago.[/QUOTE] I'm far too lazy to run with the testing repo and potentially break things.

Just installed my first Java program on this installation, the dependency list made my heart skip a beat or two.

Why does Firefox suck on Windows. It lags to hell when I have smooth scrolling enabled and looks awful. Yet IE works perfectly. Conspiracy???

[QUOTE=rilez;43929110]Why does Firefox suck on Windows. It lags to hell when I have smooth scrolling enabled and looks awful. Yet IE works perfectly. Conspiracy???[/QUOTE] I just don't use smooth scrolling. I don't like the effect and never looks right. Unless you use IE, but then again, they've had perfect smooth scrolling since your average PC had a Pentium II.

I think it looks great on Linux, especially if you force HTML5 embedded videos. I never notice stuttering there. I don't really mind using IE. Once you remove the default MSN/Bing stuff, it works well. I just can't for the life of me figure out why Firefox performs so differently. It's not a leak or extra CPU usage or anything, and I've tried it with hardware acceleration off. Not even safe mode fixes it.

Floating windows in a tiling WM are awesome, I'm surfing the web with VLC floating, in a very compact form, playing back a podcast. [t]http://i.imgur.com/R55nZK0.jpg[/t]

I eventually went AMD FK 3.5GHz*8 and ATI Radeon HD7770 for my new build. It is confirmed to support three monitors simultaneously on open source drivers. Hell yeah motherfucker

[QUOTE=nikomo;43929472]Floating windows in a tiling WM are awesome, I'm surfing the web with VLC floating, in a very compact form, playing back a podcast. [t]http://i.imgur.com/R55nZK0.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Never quite got the hardon for tiling WMs. Especially if you're just going to float panels over the windows anyway :v Might was well just use a floating WM and get shit laid out nicely.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;43934469]Never quite got the hardon for tiling WMs. Especially if you're just going to float panels over the windows anyway :v Might was well just use a floating WM and get shit laid out nicely.[/QUOTE] I like tiling WM's, because they make the most use of your screen space.