General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

The last time I hated on KDE has been a while. Likewise, the last time I tried SuSe Linux I hated Linux more than anything in my life. Then again that was back in the day when SuSe Linux 10.0 was still a thing. So let's try KDE on a live USB with OpenSuSe. edit: still ugly, YaST won't start, sound doesn't work out of the box, it crashed on me several times (sound settings crashed, desktop crashed when I tried to create a ball widget). KDE is definitely not my thing. Also, OpenSuSe doesn't seem to like my PC.

YaST won't start on my laptop either. I'm done with this.

Alright guys, I have a problem. I recently wiped my desktop from Windows Vista and put Ubuntu 13.10 on it because I needed a better OS. booting from the live disk and installing went flawlessly but as soon as I reboot the system, it gets stuck on a purple screen. I left it on overnight to see if it would come back to life but it just stayed there. now if I were to boot from recovery and then boot into Ubuntu, It works fine. I'm pretty sure that its a problem with the graphics card drivers. I have a Nvidia GT 220. Can anyone help me here? Just a quick update. I got in with recovery mode and switched to the Nvidia Proprietary driver. The first time I booted, It didnt shot the Ubuntu splash screen but a loading screen with the words Ubuntu 13.10 but in console font. I rebooted again but tried loading into GRUB by holding shift. Instead of grub, I just booted into Ubuntu. I guess I fixed it? if anyone can explain or even solve the original problem, that would be great

[QUOTE=FPtje;44242036]The last time I hated on KDE has been a while. Likewise, the last time I tried SuSe Linux I hated Linux more than anything in my life. Then again that was back in the day when SuSe Linux 10.0 was still a thing. So let's try KDE on a live USB with OpenSuSe. edit: still ugly, YaST won't start, sound doesn't work out of the box, it crashed on me several times (sound settings crashed, desktop crashed when I tried to create a ball widget). KDE is definitely not my thing. Also, OpenSuSe doesn't seem to like my PC.[/QUOTE] That seems more like a problem with OpenSUSE and not with KDE. KDE has nothing to do with Yast or sound. All the crashes should not occur though. Is your KDE fully updated? As for me then KDE have been one of the most stable DE's I've used with no crashes at all (Ubuntu 13.10 w/ KDE 4.11.5). [editline]15th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Megaman1811;44243176]Alright guys, I have a problem. I recently wiped my desktop from Windows Vista and put Ubuntu 13.10 on it because I needed a better OS. booting from the live disk and installing went flawlessly but as soon as I reboot the system, it gets stuck on a purple screen. I left it on overnight to see if it would come back to life but it just stayed there. now if I were to boot from recovery and then boot into Ubuntu, It works fine. I'm pretty sure that its a problem with the graphics card drivers. I have a Nvidia GT 220. Can anyone help me here? Just a quick update. I got in with recovery mode and switched to the Nvidia Proprietary driver. The first time I booted, It didnt shot the Ubuntu splash screen but a loading screen with the words Ubuntu 13.10 but in console font. I rebooted again but tried loading into GRUB by holding shift. Instead of grub, I just booted into Ubuntu. I guess I fixed it? if anyone can explain or even solve the original problem, that would be great[/QUOTE] Well, the default Nvidia drivers is called Nouveau and is still quite unstable. Most probleary your X session was unable to start with the original drivers and made you stuck on the loading screen (Purple screen).

[QUOTE=Anderen2;44243460]That seems more like a problem with OpenSUSE and not with KDE. KDE has nothing to do with Yast or sound. All the crashes should not occur though. Is your KDE fully updated? As for me then KDE have been one of the most stable DE's I've used with no crashes at all (Ubuntu 13.10 w/ KDE 4.11.5). [/QUOTE] I was trying both OpenSuSe [I]and[/I] KDE in one go. KDE is ugly and crashed a lot, OpenSuSe couldn't get my sound to work. I just downloaded the 13.1 live image and threw it on a 2GB USB stick. I only tried the live version. It was whining about being short on memory as well, even though the iso was just 600MB.

[QUOTE=Anderen2;44243460] Well, the default Nvidia drivers is called Nouveau and is still quite unstable. Most probleary your X session was unable to start with the original drivers and made you stuck on the loading screen (Purple screen).[/QUOTE] Well as I said before, I'm now able to get to the desktop with the 319 driver from Nvidia so I should be good for now

Can someone tell me how I can start a Gmod server with screen? This is my current startscript and I just wanna modify it so, that it starts with screen: [code]./srcds_run -srcds_run -game garrysmod +maxplayers 32 +map ttt_minecraft_b5 +host_workshop_collection 222194437 -authkey CENSORED[/code]

[QUOTE=FPtje;44243949]KDE is ugly and crashed a lot[/QUOTE] Like he said though, KDE shouldn't be crashing that much. Sounds like SuSE is just a terrible distro in general if they can't even set up their default environment correctly. [editline]15th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Tezou;44244670]Can someone tell me how I can start a Gmod server with screen? This is my current startscript and I just wanna modify it so, that it starts with screen: [code]./srcds_run -srcds_run -game garrysmod +maxplayers 32 +map ttt_minecraft_b5 +host_workshop_collection 222194437 -authkey CENSORED[/code][/QUOTE] Why not tmux? [code]tmux new-session -d -s "garrysmod" "./srcds_run -srcds_run -game garrysmod +maxplayers 32 +map ttt_minecraft_b5 +host_workshop_collection 222194437 -authkey CENSORED"[/code] It will start detached, and you can reattach it if necessary with: [code]tmux attach -t garrysmod[/code]

[QUOTE=lavacano;44244687]Like he said though, KDE shouldn't be crashing that much. Sounds like SuSE is just a terrible distro in general if they can't even set up their default environment correctly. Why not tmux? [code]tmux new-session -d -s "garrysmod" "./srcds_run -srcds_run -game garrysmod +maxplayers 32 +map ttt_minecraft_b5 +host_workshop_collection 222194437 -authkey CENSORED"[/code] It will start detached, and you can reattach it if necessary with: [code]tmux attach -t garrysmod[/code][/QUOTE] Sure tmux is also fine. Is it normal, that everything behind "garrysmod" is kinda grey? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DnijNaW.png[/IMG]

That's syntax highlighting. "..." is a string and will usually have a grey/green/different color when syntax highlighting is on. [editline]15th March 2014[/editline] Why tmux for something as simple as a server console, tho? screen should work just fine. tmux is for when you need more than one terminal imo.

Yeah I would also prefer screen, can you tell me what I should add, so it starts with screen, please?

[code]screen -dmS name "command to run"[/code] so that would be: [code]screen -dmS garrysmod "./srcds_run -srcds_run -game garrysmod +maxplayers 32 +map ttt_minecraft_b5 +host_workshop_collection 222194437 -authkey CENSORED"[/code] to attach: [code]screen -xS garrysmod[/code] to detach, press ^A (ctrl+a) followed by d

[QUOTE=Tezou;44244904]Yeah I would also prefer screen, can you tell me what I should add, so it starts with screen, please?[/QUOTE] What have you tried? Have read the screen manual? Have you tried Googling it (try "GNU screen" since just "screen" will bring up junk)?

[QUOTE=Darkwater124;44245010][code]screen -dmS name "command to run"[/code] so that would be: [code]screen -dmS garrysmod "./srcds_run -srcds_run -game garrysmod +maxplayers 32 +map ttt_minecraft_b5 +host_workshop_collection 222194437 -authkey CENSORED"[/code] to attach: [code]screen -xS garrysmod[/code] to detach, press ^A (ctrl+a) followed by d[/QUOTE] Okay I copied your text over my startscript and inserted the authkey and when I start the script Ubuntu says nothing (no errors) But when I run then [code]screen -ls[/code] it says no sockets found. Did I forget anything?!

[QUOTE=Tezou;44245099]Okay I copied your text over my startscript and inserted the authkey and when I start the script Ubuntu says nothing (no errors) But when I run then [code]screen -ls[/code] it says no sockets found. Did I forget anything?![/QUOTE] Try running it with -S instead of -dmS and see if it will show anything useful. (-dm will start the screen without attaching to it)

Okay now I get this shortly showing up, I made a fast screenshot: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/z2wkndx.png[/IMG] I am totally sure that it got rights to execute, because I used it several times before without any errors, but without screen.

Try using an absolute directory like /home/tezou/srcds/srcds_run rather than ./srcds_run.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;44245315]Try using an absolute directory like /home/tezou/srcds/srcds_run rather than ./srcds_run.[/QUOTE] Did this, but it didn't changed anything, still the same error. :/

I never had success when using screen together with commands that has long arguments. Try putting the command into an file, chmod +x it, and then try "screen filename".

[QUOTE=Anderen2;44245633]I never had success when using screen together with commands that has long arguments. Try putting the command into an file, chmod +x it, and then try "screen filename".[/QUOTE] Okay that seems to work now. Many thanks. Another question: I just detached it with CRTL+A+D, but how do I attach it again? EDIT: Just found it out. It's with screen -ls and screen -rx SCREENNAME. But the screenname is quite long and not easy to recognize as gmod, it's name is "28337.pts-5.Ubuntu-1204-precise-64-minimal ". Is there a way to rename it?

[QUOTE=Tezou;44245723]Okay that seems to work now. Many thanks. Another question: I just detached it with CRTL+A+D, but how do I attach it again? EDIT: Just found it out. It's with screen -ls and screen -rx SCREENNAME. But the screenname is quite long and not easy to recognize as gmod, it's name is "28337.pts-5.Ubuntu-1204-precise-64-minimal ". Is there a way to rename it?[/QUOTE] Well, the easiest is if you only have one screen session, if so you do not need to write anything after "screen -x". You can however name the session with "screen -dmS Name Filename". Also, screen -x also works if you just write the first unique letters of the id or name, ex. "screen -x 28" or "screen -x pt" to attach to the session you typed above.

Thanks. Yeah I will only have one screen session. I extra made a new user for every server. Many thanks again.

[QUOTE=Dog;44220785]don't. assuming you are completely new to Linux, you'd be better off with an Ubuntu derivative like Xubuntu or Kubuntu. Ubuntu would do but the interface is pretty crap and the themeing can get fucked if you install other desktop environments. you can check the performance of games on [URL="http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=category&iId=2&sAction=view&sTitle=Browse+Applications"]WineHQ[/URL]. you might also want to take a look at [URL="http://www.playonlinux.com/en/"]playonlinux[/URL] which is based on WINE.[/QUOTE] Sorry for the late reply but why would you just assume that I am new to Linux? [editline]16th March 2014[/editline] Anyway I had issues installing arch, my ISP has a web portal and arch being text based I have no way to log in. I tried w3m but I Think it needs javascript for the login. I guess I could throw X/openbox/browser packages on a flash drive and install them but I can't be bothered. I've already used most of my data cap trying to install on to a physical disk from virtualbox with no luck. Maybe next month.

[QUOTE=FPtje;44242036]The last time I hated on KDE has been a while. Likewise, the last time I tried SuSe Linux I hated Linux more than anything in my life. Then again that was back in the day when SuSe Linux 10.0 was still a thing. So let's try KDE on a live USB with OpenSuSe. edit: still ugly, YaST won't start, sound doesn't work out of the box, it crashed on me several times (sound settings crashed, desktop crashed when I tried to create a ball widget). KDE is definitely not my thing. Also, OpenSuSe doesn't seem to like my PC.[/QUOTE] I had the same kind of shit when I installed it on my laptop even though it worked fine on my desktop. Adding the kernel head repo and updating to the latest kernel stopped everything from crashing though. As for the KDE thing, I don't know why they persist with it as their default desktop environment when their xfce implementation works so much more smoothly.

[QUOTE=reevezy67;44250240]Sorry for the late reply but why would you just assume that I am new to Linux? [editline]16th March 2014[/editline] Anyway I had issues installing arch, my ISP has a web portal and arch being text based I have no way to log in. I tried w3m but I Think it needs javascript for the login. I guess I could throw X/openbox/browser packages on a flash drive and install them but I can't be bothered. I've already used most of my data cap trying to install on to a physical disk from virtualbox with no luck. Maybe next month.[/QUOTE] You can use [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archiso"]Archiso[/URL] to create live media that has a GUI or whatever you need to set up internet, though that assumes that you already have a working Arch install... that is a tricky situation you are in.

I'm fine with installing Arch manually, I'll just find somewhere to store some packages to give myself a browser offline.

Get Archbang.

Why use arch if you aren't going to set it up yourself(half joking).

Well, it has firefox and openbox in it, so you can setup the internet. Afterwards you can remove all the shit it comes with.

[QUOTE=ichiman94;44252937]Well, it has firefox and openbox in it, so you can setup the internet. Afterwards you can remove all the shit it comes with.[/QUOTE] that's really true with any distribution, except for the openbox part.