General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

The annoying part is that the open drivers for Nvidia cards are absolute ass. And AMD is going to try and get a large portion of their drivers into the kernel, and then keep some stuff that can't be opened in the userland.

If the open drivers don't work, why not just use the closed ones? It's not that hard.

Closed drivers have to compile a kernel module and insert into the kernel. Kernel modules have to be compiled specifically for the kernel you're using, which means you have to stick to old kernel versions that Nvidia and AMD supports. If the new architecture happens with AMD drivers, you can grab the latest mainline kernel if you want, and have drivers.

I recently picked up a wiped Toshiba NB200 netbook for £30. (Intel Atom 280 processor with 2GB RAM) I know the processor is pretty shitty. I initially put Ubuntu 14.04 on it but the the poor netbook was gonna explode. Anyone know of a stripped backed lightweight OS just for Firefox and VLC media player?

[QUOTE=dead60;44841029]I recently picked up a wiped Toshiba NB200 netbook for £30. (Intel Atom 280 processor with 2GB RAM) I know the processor is pretty shitty. I initially put Ubuntu 14.04 on it but the the poor netbook was gonna explode. Anyone know of a stripped backed lightweight OS just for Firefox and VLC media player?[/QUOTE] Lubuntu is very light-weight. Mainly some panel and Openbox. And then there's the usual Arch response in case you want to put the whole thing together with choice cut [del]parts[/del] software.

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So I gave Lubuntu and Crunchbang a go, both with pretty much equal loading times from boot to shutdown. (Boot time is roughly 30seconds) Lubuntu works much better with my shitter processor, and I can actually watch youtube videos now. :v: I was wondering if I could speed up boot times by using USB Linux OS's (such as Slax, damn small linux, porteus etc...) and installing permanently HDD seeing I'll be only using it for internet and media. (I don't know if that would be beneficial or not, I'm an amateur at linux) I'll have a look into Arch, thanks for your suggestions!

There's this: [url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Improve_boot_performance[/url]

[QUOTE=dead60;44843398]So I gave Lubuntu and Crunchbang a go, both with pretty much equal loading times from boot to shutdown. (Boot time is roughly 30seconds) Lubuntu works much better with my shitter processor, and I can actually watch youtube videos now. :v: I was wondering if I could speed up boot times by using USB Linux OS's (such as Slax, damn small linux, porteus etc...) and installing permanently HDD seeing I'll be only using it for internet and media. (I don't know if that would be beneficial or not, I'm an amateur at linux) I'll have a look into Arch, thanks for your suggestions![/QUOTE] I'm not sure if what I did is what you want, but this is what I did: I installed Arch on my dad's laptop (on a ~5 GB partition), but I didn't install any bootloader. I whipped my USB stick out, started Arch off it, and then regenerated the GRUB menu items. This caused it to detect, alongisde the Arch on my stick, the Arch installation on the laptop as well. The only way to start Arch up on the laptop is if you have the key (i.e. USB stick with the specific GRUB menu entry).

[QUOTE=Larikang;44849970]There's this: [url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Improve_boot_performance[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]systemd provides a tool called systemd-analyze that can be used to show timing details about the boot process, including an svg plot showing units waiting for their dependencies. You can see which unit files are causing your boot process to slow down. You can then optimize your system accordingly. [/quote] Why is it that nobody cites things like this when I ask about systemd's advantages over OpenRC? This is an actually interesting thing, instead of "IT HAS PARALLEL BOOTING" and other things OpenRC also has.

[QUOTE=lavacano;44851926]Why is it that nobody cites things like this when I ask about systemd's advantages over OpenRC? This is an actually interesting thing, instead of "IT HAS PARALLEL BOOTING" and other things OpenRC also has.[/QUOTE] systemd-analyze plot is way cooler. [url]http://nikomo.fi/systemd-analyze.svg[/url] [code] nikomo@Iris:~ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 10.765s (kernel) + 7.591s (userspace) = 18.356s [/code] [code] nikomo@Iris:~ systemd-analyze blame 4.503s dkms.service 2.867s plymouth-quit-wait.service 1.567s NetworkManager.service 1.338s plymouth-start.service 1.148s ModemManager.service 650ms tlp.service 597ms polkit.service 478ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service 407ms lightdm-plymouth.service 394ms alsa-restore.service 394ms user@620.service 387ms systemd-logind.service 352ms systemd-modules-load.service 214ms systemd-remount-fs.service 190ms systemd-binfmt.service 188ms systemd-udev-trigger.service 150ms tmp.mount 128ms systemd-sysctl.service 128ms kmod-static-nodes.service 126ms sys-kernel-debug.mount 124ms accounts-daemon.service 124ms dev-mqueue.mount 122ms dev-hugepages.mount 114ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-4afbcece\x2d2aee\x2d47d7\x2da8e0\x2d3bc8faa129db.service 87ms boot.mount 78ms udisks2.service 49ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount 48ms user@1000.service 41ms systemd-udevd.service 39ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service 36ms plymouth-read-write.service 36ms systemd-readahead-collect.service 33ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service 32ms systemd-readahead-replay.service 32ms systemd-journal-flush.service 32ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill1.service 28ms rtkit-daemon.service 26ms wpa_supplicant.service 26ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill2.service 22ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service 16ms systemd-user-sessions.service 16ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount 15ms systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service 11ms systemd-readahead-done.service 9ms sys-kernel-config.mount 7ms systemd-update-utmp.service 6ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill0.service 6ms systemd-random-seed.service 4ms systemd-backlight@backlight:radeon_bl0.service [/code]

[code] 40.874s systemd-fsck@dev-mapper-fedora\x2dhome.service 4.555s systemd-udev-settle.service 2.304s plymouth-quit-wait.service 2.261s lvm2-monitor.service 1.940s dmraid-activation.service 1.867s systemd-fsck-root.service 1.789s proc-fs-nfsd.mount 1.761s var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount 1.571s systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service 1.354s systemd-binfmt.service 1.295s boot.mount 1.226s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service 1.092s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-c237e4db\x2d1efb\x2d488b\x2dba 995ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount 756ms plymouth-start.service 734ms firewalld.service 670ms fedora-readonly.service 657ms fedora-import-state.service 649ms systemd-random-seed.service 475ms dev-mqueue.mount 475ms sys-kernel-debug.mount 475ms dev-hugepages.mount 470ms lvm2-pvscan@8:3.service 464ms systemd-sysctl.service 463ms accounts-daemon.service 462ms tmp.mount 436ms rtkit-daemon.service 421ms systemd-readahead-replay.service 390ms kmod-static-nodes.service 358ms avahi-daemon.service 347ms chronyd.service 323ms libvirtd.service 317ms ModemManager.service 302ms nfs-lock.service 294ms systemd-logind.service 237ms colord.service 231ms dnf-makecache.service 211ms livesys.service 202ms systemd-user-sessions.service 197ms teamviewerd.service 165ms dev-mapper-fedora\x2dswap.swap 157ms udisks2.service 156ms rpcbind.service 146ms mcelog.service [/code] I have no clue what that top one does but I honestly don't care since I never turn off my desktop

fsck = file system check It's running it @dev-mapper-fedora, and you have lvm2 services enabled, so I'm guessing you're using LVM2, and since there's an actual fsck happening, I'm guessing you're using ext4 or 3. btrfs doesn't do fsck, it handles that stuff the same way ZFS does, so fsck can be skipped on boot. Also, since fsck actually ran, I'm guessing you either held the power button down, or shut the machine down from the PSU, so the filesystem wasn't unmounted cleanly.

[QUOTE=nikomo;44852762]Also, since fsck actually ran, I'm guessing you either held the power button down, or shut the machine down from the PSU, so the filesystem wasn't unmounted cleanly.[/QUOTE] Or things could be configured to run fsck every 30 mounts/x days. My last Gentoo install was like that.

fsck is so 1999 I still keep an ext partition for /boot though, and I have fsck in my initramfs because of that. Might remove it though, maybe it would boot a bit faster, but it's already quite fast enough.

To me, Fedora always seems to take longer to boot than other distros.

I'm getting a Lenovo Y510p soon. How does sli work with Arch. I can remove 1 gpu as an option. Also, what's the best ways to save battery life. The average y510p charge is 4 hours.

[quote][t]http://farmpolice.com/content/images/748781ec.png[/t][/quote] Crazy how advertisements are more aware of Linux than some companies.

[QUOTE=nikomo;44852762]fsck = file system check It's running it @dev-mapper-fedora, and you have lvm2 services enabled, so I'm guessing you're using LVM2, and since there's an actual fsck happening, I'm guessing you're using ext4 or 3. btrfs doesn't do fsck, it handles that stuff the same way ZFS does, so fsck can be skipped on boot. Also, since fsck actually ran, I'm guessing you either held the power button down, or shut the machine down from the PSU, so the filesystem wasn't unmounted cleanly.[/QUOTE] We had a small power outage because our treadmill is shit and it has a one in three chance of killing the power for some reason when you turn it on. It could also be that long because I have 6 disks in my desktop all with variable health. [editline]20th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Naelstrom;44856296]Crazy how advertisements are more aware of Linux than some companies.[/QUOTE] Download them and see if you get an EXE

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;44856587]Download them and see if you get an EXE[/QUOTE] [quote][t]http://farmpolice.com/content/images/76cb27ae.png[/t][/quote] Damn

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;44856801]Damn[/QUOTE] VM that shit!

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;44856801]Damn[/QUOTE] gimme! I want to decompile it

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[QUOTE=Original User;44855640]I'm getting a Lenovo Y510p soon. How does sli work with Arch. I can remove 1 gpu as an option. Also, what's the best ways to save battery life. The average y510p charge is 4 hours.[/QUOTE] Y410p here, got EFI booting and optimus working quite well, and my 3 hours on Windows averages as 3.5 hours on Linux. I recommend looking into [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/bumblebee"]bumblebee[/URL] and [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tlp"]tlp[/URL] for battery savings. As far as SLI goes, just as long as you get the proprietary drivers set up, according to these guys [URL="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1596235"]it's easier than you would think[/URL]. Be warned, though, that was for an Alienware, could be more/less difficult for the Y510p.

I decided to upgrade my owncloud from owncloud 5 to 6. The problem is that all my files are encrypted (>30GB each with their own encryption key because :tinfoil:) and they all need to be decrypted... It has been 2 hours since I started the process. No end is in sight, no progress indicator and apache is at 100% cpu. It's like poking at a black box and then waiting hours to see if you fucked up bigtime. [editline]20th May 2014[/editline] aannnnnddd.... it fucked up and only decrypted like 5%

[QUOTE=deadeye536;44857214]Y410p here, got EFI booting and optimus working quite well, and my 3 hours on Windows averages as 3.5 hours on Linux. I recommend looking into [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/bumblebee"]bumblebee[/URL] and [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tlp"]tlp[/URL] for battery savings. As far as SLI goes, just as long as you get the proprietary drivers set up, according to these guys [URL="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1596235"]it's easier than you would think[/URL]. Be warned, though, that was for an Alienware, could be more/less difficult for the Y510p.[/QUOTE] What distro do you run? I wanna get great battery life averaging 4 hours. Can is there commands I can use?

[QUOTE=Original User;44864392]What distro do you run? I wanna get great battery life averaging 4 hours. Can is there commands I can use?[/QUOTE] I got the first revision of the y410p which advertised 3.5 hours of battery life, so I'm getting exactly what Lenovo advertised at that time. I got everything working with both Arch and Manjaro, but I gotta say Manjaro did get EFI booting and optimus working well out of the box quite easily, so that may be best for you depending on your experience with Linux. As far as maximizing battery life, read into bumblebee which handles optimus, and tlp which handles just about everything else.

Why are the open source drivers for ATI cards(xf86-video-ati) so chunky with older cards? Runnin' that good ol' Arch and gots me a Radeon 7000 that will only output via VGA and will not acknowledge my DVI or S-video connections. It's quite odd, and I don't like it.

You guys might find this survey interesting [URL="https://brashear.me/blog/2014/05/18/results-of-the-2014-slash-r-slash-linux-distribution-survey/"]here[/URL]; and the LAS home server responses [URL="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FuXck6l1NSc2eG0kfXLHNj5xo_Yjltra_ia3AxadG1Q"]here[/URL]. According to the survey Arch is used a lot more for servers than I thought.

[QUOTE=TheCreeper;44867374]You guys might find this survey interesting [URL="https://brashear.me/blog/2014/05/18/results-of-the-2014-slash-r-slash-linux-distribution-survey/"]here[/URL]; and the LAS home server responses [URL="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FuXck6l1NSc2eG0kfXLHNj5xo_Yjltra_ia3AxadG1Q"]here[/URL]. According to the survey Arch is used a lot more for servers than I thought.[/QUOTE] I think by actual volume its different. Esp with the /r/linux one where you will find a different set of linux users than the standard Linux admin. Sampling a community is only good for profiling that community, Since each community has their own thing that they really like.