General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

Have any of you guys ever managed to compile Noise on Fedora (or centos)?

[QUOTE=PredGD;45764461]does gnome shell suffer from a memory leak? I've been having issues with it for a while, and right now it's using 2GB all on its own. a reboot will take that to around 100MB. I've had it all the way up to 3GB before too[/QUOTE] definitely sounds like a memory leak

Whats that panel that a lot of people have with their tiling WMs that has like, processor usage, mem usage, internet connection stats etc. etc. etc. at the bottom of your screen called, again? I was thinking of installing Gentoo

[QUOTE=esalaka;45770726]Whats that panel that a lot of people have with their tiling WMs that has like, processor usage, mem usage, internet connection stats etc. etc. etc. at the bottom of your screen called, again? I was thinking of installing Gentoo[/QUOTE] Tiling WM... Gentoo... You've been to /g/, haven't you? Also, I use i3bar and i3status in i3wm, works for me. i3bar just basically displays info that you pipe into it, i3status builds up that information and displays it on i3bar.

[QUOTE=nikomo;45771407]You've been to /g/, haven't you?[/QUOTE] [url=https://rms.sexy]Have you heard about our GNU/lord and GNU/savior Richard Stallman?[/url]

[QUOTE=nikomo;45771407]Tiling WM... Gentoo... You've been to /g/, haven't you?[/QUOTE] Never, actually. [QUOTE=nikomo;45771407]Also, I use i3bar and i3status in i3wm, works for me. i3bar just basically displays info that you pipe into it, i3status builds up that information and displays it on i3bar.[/QUOTE] Oh, it's an i3 thing? I've been using awesome but I'd assume they're similar enough for me to get i3 working. I never was that fond of awesome, anyway. Guess I'll try and get that working and post screenshots when I do.

[QUOTE=esalaka;45770726]Whats that panel that a lot of people have with their tiling WMs that has like, processor usage, mem usage, internet connection stats etc. etc. etc. at the bottom of your screen called, again? I was thinking of installing Gentoo[/QUOTE] There are a lot of bars you can use, like i3bar, dzen2, bar (bar-aint-recursive), awesome wiboxs, etc. You are probably thinking of i3bar, the default config is similar to what you're describing.

Aye, I jumped at i3bar since the default config sounds exactly like what was described.

[QUOTE=esalaka;45770726]Whats that panel that a lot of people have with their tiling WMs that has like, processor usage, mem usage, internet connection stats etc. etc. etc. at the bottom of your screen called, again?[/QUOTE] Always seen that panel at the top. As for suggestions for said panels, we have: * [url=https://github.com/LemonBoy/bar]bar[/url] (bar-aint-recursive) or [url=https://github.com/rootcoma/bar/tree/all_features]a fork with features like XBM images and nested actions[/url]. * [url=http://robm.github.io/dzen/]dzen2[/url] * [url=http://conky.sourceforge.net/]Conky[/url] (I will personally make you expire you if you settle with this.) Need help? [url=http://blog.z3bra.org/2014/04/meeting-at-the-bar.html]Read this guy's blog for tidbits[/url]. Like nikomo said with i3bar and i3status, you have to gather and process the data you want to display before piping it to your panel. I myself use that bar fork I mentioned. The most common way to gather and process said data is via shell script. New to the shell? Great learning process. Skilled with the shell? Great learning process anyway. No you can't have my script as it's not done yet. [editline]e[/editline] Trust me this how I became a wizard with bash.

[QUOTE=Stonecycle;45771625]* [url=http://robm.github.io/dzen/]dzen2[/url] * [url=http://conky.sourceforge.net/]Conky[/url] (I will personally make you expire you if you settle with this.)[/QUOTE] Not a huge fan of Conky. Had it for some time, found it absolutely, well... not useless but kind of pointless since it was in the background all the time. [QUOTE=Stonecycle;45771625]Like nikomo said with i3bar and i3status, you have to gather and process the data you want to display before piping it to your panel.[/QUOTE] That's better than having another turing-complete scripting language for the purpose of configuring a panel, at least. [editline]23rd August 2014[/editline] Looking into i3: [quote]To move the focus between the two terminals, you can use the direction keys which you may know from the editor vi. However, in i3, your homerow is used for these keys (in vi, the keys are shifted to the left by one for compatibility with most keyboard layouts).[/quote] Are they trying to imply they don't give a damn about compatibility with other keyboard layouts? I don't have a ; key, I have ö there. Guess I could just change the bindings but damn, what a stupid thing to do.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;45761319]It could be that the wrong driver is being loaded. Try searching around how to set up such a wireless dongle on Linux, and see if they mention anything about blacklisting the rt2x00usb driver.[/QUOTE] Searching reveals nobody else has really had this problem before. Plugging it into my laptop that runs Arch also gives me the same errors. Blacklisting the rt2x00usb driver removes the errors, and lsusb shows the dongle, but the dongle doesn't actually work. After some searching, rt2x00usb supposedly supports it so I have no clue as to why it's giving me errors in the first place :suicide:

I'm using conky for my lockscreen. [t]http://novaember.com/s/632986004.png[/t]

I finally figured out (with a lot of help from the Arch forums) how to leave my headphones plugged in and switch between speakers and headphones with console commands. I kinda figured it would be impossible, but it feels so good to finally get something like that working.

[QUOTE=Excalibuurr;45782291]So I want to try using Linux, mostly because I like to try new things and there's not much that that's holding me back. I mostly use the computer for a few video games now and to watch videos and stuff. I'm on a laptop, so I'm wondering how is the support for laptops, as well as what distro should I get. I was thinking between lint, ubuntu, and fedora but I'm not sure what are the key aspects that set them apart.[/QUOTE] support for hardware is passable across the board from my experience. you may experience issues, and you may not. AMD is most likely going to be a hitch if you have that, but shouldn't be too major if anything happens at all. if you're a complete beginner, I think you should try Ubuntu first just to get used to the terminal and how the system is structured etc. this includes Mint, ElementaryOS and Ubuntu + any of its flavors. biggest changes between these are the desktop environments, so it's kinda up to what you like the most when choosing.

what kind of eye-candy things do you guys use? im not really using a lot, just xfce with a few things changed here and there, im looking for something to spice this up

[QUOTE=Bumrang;45782642]what kind of eye-candy things do you guys use? im not really using a lot, just xfce with a few things changed here and there, im looking for something to spice this up[/QUOTE] if you haven't already, I'd look into a new compositor that offers more eye-candy than what xfce already comes with. first one that springs to mind is the Cairo Composite Manager docks (not just a panel with big icons) can make stuff look a lot nicer in my opinion I'm sure you've thought of it already, but conky can help make the desktop feel more "full" and functional, even if you're barely going to see it. I don't really use conky though because I never see it anyway you could always look into a different DE that offers more animations, fancy effects, etc as well then there's the experimentation with themes. if I'm not happy with the looks of my desktop and no matter what I try to be happy about it, I just change style completely and go hog wild with experimentation. it works, most of the time. small changes like adding/removing/re-organizing stuff on the xfce panel is also a great way to blow some new life into the desktop in my opinion

[QUOTE=Excalibuurr;45783813]Alrighty now, on new spiffy ElementaryOS. I'm going to go watch a video or something now. :v: So is there a way to run windows games on linux without performance hit yet? [editline]24th August 2014[/editline] woops, broke the os by using the update manager, had to reinstall. guess i'll avoid that huh.[/QUOTE] There's no way to run Windows games on Windows without a performance hit. If you're running something in compatability mode, you'll have a performance hit, regardless of platform. However, currently most Windows games *can* run on Linux, with a performance hit being taken. How bad depends on your Wine version and Linux distribution. All in all, it's going to get a lot better when Gallium Nine gets merged and Wine gets support for it, allowing you to skip the OpenGL translation layer for DX9 games. It would help stating what games you intend to run though. [editline]24th August 2014[/editline] It's also worth noting that ElementaryOS is not out of beta yet, so if you want a smooth and problem free experience, it isn't it. I'd still say try Ubuntu if you're new.

Gallium Nine coming, radeonsi is getting better and better, reclocking finally happening for nouveau. AMD and Nvidia, BTFO.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;45784146]There's no way to run Windows games on Windows without a performance hit. If you're running something in compatability mode, you'll have a performance hit, regardless of platform. However, currently most Windows games *can* run on Linux, with a performance hit being taken. How bad depends on your Wine version and Linux distribution. All in all, it's going to get a lot better when Gallium Nine gets merged and Wine gets support for it, allowing you to skip the OpenGL translation layer for DX9 games. It would help stating what games you intend to run though. [editline]24th August 2014[/editline] It's also worth noting that ElementaryOS is not out of beta yet, so if you want a smooth and problem free experience, it isn't it. I'd still say try Ubuntu if you're new.[/QUOTE] elementaryOS is out of beta, they just have a new version (Freya) in beta, but you can still use their old version (Luna)

[QUOTE=tW4r;45786335]elementaryOS is out of beta, they just have a new version (Freya) in beta, but you can still use their old version (Luna)[/QUOTE] Well, maybe officially so, but I would never refer to any current release of elementaryOS ("beta" or not) to anything but beta, considering the stability of it and the lack of functionality. I have had too many issues even getting elementaryOS Luna working for it to be a stable release to me. Ubuntu 14.04 however, is the most stable rock besides debian that I've had the pleasure of using.

Arch has been more stable than Debian, for me. Both are fine, though.

I've been installing Gentoo since Friday. It's 15 past midnight on Monday. Finally wifi works and I can start actually doing things with it.

... A weekend well spent, I suppose. Need to do that myself, at one point.

Right so Lattice Diamond is a closed source piece of software for FPGA development, and for the life of me I cannot make it work on Arch. I think it's supported on RHEL, so am I right in thinking I could use Docker with a CentOS base image and somehow make X and USB work? I haven't really used docker in the past.

Is there a vnstat like program out there that will give me a breakdown by destination/source subnet? I want to be able to have a separate count for internet and local traffic.

[QUOTE=Excalibuurr;45790436]As man, broke my Ubuntu install by using the software update thing. There goes a days worth of work. :suicide:[/QUOTE] sure you're doing it the right way? :v: [editline]25th August 2014[/editline] what exactly happens when you update and whats broken? [editline]25th August 2014[/editline] is there any reason to choose nouveau over nvidia's drivers? only reason I can see would be to use the KMS by the linux kernel than nvidia's inbuilt solution, but the only thing missing is high resolution consoles so that's not really a good enough reason for me at least.

[QUOTE=Excalibuurr;45788545]CSS and Team Fortress 2 works fine though, using nouveau drivers.[/QUOTE] Really? Last time I tried Nouveau I got terrible 3D performance. What card are you using? Are we talking 30fps on low settings? 60fps on highest settings?

I'm poking my head into linux, and its not my first time. What would be a distro that I could really learn linux with? I tried lubuntu, its very light and I like the interface, but it would appear there's not much to it other than clicking around like windows. I tried backtrack, which I'd assume is an ubuntu variant, its interesting using console commands, but I'm pretty sure there's more to it than just "sudo apt-get install xyz hotdogs". I tried debian. I like debian. You download 3 dvd's, and if you want to install something, you don't download it, you just pop in a cd. I have very shitty internet, and I like this whole 1 time download until it updates thing. It's not very light though, and is somewhat sluggish on my old computer. I looked into Red Hat Enterprise because I knew the name. It costs money though :( Any input here?

[QUOTE=aPanzerIV;45798143]I'm poking my head into linux, and its not my first time. What would be a distro that I could really learn linux with? I tried lubuntu, its very light and I like the interface, but it would appear there's not much to it other than clicking around like windows. I tried backtrack, which I'd assume is an ubuntu variant, its interesting using console commands, but I'm pretty sure there's more to it than just "sudo apt-get install xyz hotdogs". I tried debian. I like debian. You download 3 dvd's, and if you want to install something, you don't download it, you just pop in a cd. I have very shitty internet, and I like this whole 1 time download until it updates thing. It's not very light though, and is somewhat sluggish on my old computer. I looked into Red Hat Enterprise because I knew the name. It costs money though :( Any input here?[/QUOTE] Debian is actually very light by itself, it just depends on what packages you install like any barebones OS. After all, I used it realistically on a Pentium II with LXDE and it worked fine...until you use Firefox :v:. CentOS is what your looking for if your looking at Red Hat. Its essentially the same thing, but not paid and lacking paid features in Red Hat.

So I tried to install Ubuntu on my desktop PC and it installed and booted up just fine however after about five minutes or so it just froze on me and eventually spitted out a message about my GPU locking up. So I downloaded the ISO again and reinstalled Ubuntu using a different USB-stick and it froze again. Finally I booted up and installed the proprietary Nvidia drivers successfully yet Ubuntu still froze. Eventually I decided to try out Kubuntu instead and it seemed to run fine enough with no crashes. Installed the proprietary Nvidia drivers again and decided to Install the Ubuntu Software Center to use instead of Kubuntus default software center. So I launched the Ubuntu Software Center and while browsing through the different software available Kubuntu froze ans spat out a message about my GPU locking up just like when I ran vanilla Ubuntu. Anyone have any Idea what the problem might be? My current graphics card is an MSI GTX 580 and it works just fine on Windows.