General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=nikomo;45896957]--force it and then cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda[/QUOTE] This kills the computer [t]http://i.imgur.com/nWOExXP.png[/t]

[QUOTE=FPtje;45896708]Holy shit pacman corrupted an install [img]http://i.imgur.com/GOzI4M7.png[/img] Not a biggie, but I don't see this happen very often.[/QUOTE] Sometimes files are unowned for some odd purpose - this probably isn't the case, but occasionally programs create files that they subsequently don't own, and a later update to the package contains the file, causing a file conflict. It could also be another package somehow having taken ownership of those files, but I can't see why qjackctl would be in any package except its own.

[QUOTE=esalaka;45899576]Sometimes files are unowned for some odd purpose - this probably isn't the case, but occasionally programs create files that they subsequently don't own, and a later update to the package contains the file, causing a file conflict. It could also be another package somehow having taken ownership of those files, but I can't see why qjackctl would be in any package except its own.[/QUOTE] See that's what's so great about SliTaz, y'know? If a package collides with another package, then FUCK THAT OTHER PACKAGE WE'RE INSTALLING SHIT and suddently your system doesn't even boot because some idiot made linux-headers include a sed'd kernel.

meanwhile gentoo is like "wait what the fuck are these files doing here does something own them" and actually checks itself before it wrecks itself

[QUOTE=lavacano;45901107]meanwhile gentoo is like "wait what the fuck are these files doing here does something own them" and actually checks itself before it wrecks itself[/QUOTE] Which also happens to be the system I am using on my desktop, alongside of Ubuntu. I mean, what else could you possibly need on a system, than Ubuntu and Gentoo? Best of two worlds, one is slow as fucking balls to upgrade, and the other is dumb as shit and eats my harddrive. Life as I love it. However, I recently booted into my Gentoo (actually Funtoo) system, after a few (a lot) of months with no updates or anything, not even a boot, and then it doesn't even work anymore. I booted it up with my previous kernel, no problems. However keyboard input from USB suddently doesn't work there anymore. Strange, I thought, and thus began my journey of recompiling kernels with genkernel, recompiling the entire system only to find everything is broken (again), and now I'm in Ubuntu with a chroot set up for Funtoo with it trying it's hardest not to shit itself, whilst doing just that. I fucking love Linux. [editline]6th September 2014[/editline] (I do though)

What distro do you all prefer for a server? I've always been partial to Ubuntu but I'm starting to think it's bloated and Canonical is replacing really good open-source software with their own, just to say it's theirs. I've also always regarded CentOS as the devil and a complete PITA to set up quickly (installing a bunch of repos to install software that's included with the default repos on Ubuntu, for example)

[QUOTE=Banana Lord.;45907663]What distro do you all prefer for a server? I've always been partial to Ubuntu but I'm starting to think it's bloated and Canonical is replacing really good open-source software with their own, just to say it's theirs. I've also always regarded CentOS as the devil and a complete PITA to set up quickly (installing a bunch of repos to install software that's included with the default repos on Ubuntu, for example)[/QUOTE] Debian minimal or BSD if i'm in a kinky mood

Depends. If it's my own personal shit, I'd deploy Debian. If I'm doing it for a small company, not sure. Large company, license RHEL and let their customer service blow me while they fix something.

[QUOTE=Banana Lord.;45907663]I've also always regarded CentOS as the devil and a complete PITA to set up quickly (installing a bunch of repos to install software that's included with the default repos on Ubuntu, for example)[/QUOTE] I don't see why this is such a bad thing, though. You're running a server. It's not like you're installing new software every day.

[QUOTE=esalaka;45907719]I don't see why this is such a bad thing, though. You're running a server. It's not like you're installing new software every day.[/QUOTE] Because most of the time when I'm setting up a server it's not for anything professional, so I want it deployed and everything set up as quickly as possible [editline]6th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Mega1mpact;45907710]Debian minimal or BSD if i'm in a kinky mood[/QUOTE] I've started using Debian and it seems like the lightweight Ubuntu. BSD is one of those things you have to tinker with, isn't it?

Now definitely my linux installation is crapping out. After doing apt-get dist upgrade, apt-get install bootchart and it fails because of read only file system, and doing the dpkg thing, my PC refuses to boot at all, complaining about /dev/by-uuid/random_number not found. Copying the initrd from boot-repair usb works and setting the grub to 3.8.0-19-generic and the thing boot ups again, but the mouse wouldn't work and needs to unplugged and plugged again, and there is no networking. Doing the update-initramfs -u and setting the grub at that moment reverts me to the unbootable state Is there any way to fix this without reinstalling lubuntu?

Today I learned I should just stop trying to get my nvidia card to work on my laptop. It's hell every time and it never works properly. [editline]7th September 2014[/editline] Also, I'm probably going to get the GTX 750 Ti for my desktop, in case anyone's wondering.

[url]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4MDg[/url] I hope wayland is ready soon.

Wayland is fairly ready, it's everything else that's the problem, AFAIK.

Hey lavacano, you couldn't cook up a binary portage-ready glibc with USE="multilib" for me? I seem to have an issue with a pure64 glibc that won't allow multilib to exist. All I get is [code] #include <gnu/stubs-32.h> file not found [/code] Before that, I couldn't recompile glibc, because appearantly it was built on a 64bit only kernel and rebuilding it for multilib made it produce 32bit binaries that could not be run (despite both kernel and gcc being rebuild to support multilib and IA32 emulation).

I think I've decided I'm going to run something fairly idiotproof, and easy to run, like Arch or Debian, until Bedrock reaches a point where I can use it.

[QUOTE=nikomo;45917203]Wayland is fairly ready, it's everything else that's the problem, AFAIK.[/QUOTE] Like the fact that you can only use Weston on it and Weston doesn't work?

Wayland is a protocol specification. Wayland is fine. It's literally everything else that's broken. I realize that's a bit like saying the water is fine and functioning to spec, when a dam breaks and a village of 10,000 people suddenly gets instantly crushed and killed by immense amounts of water, but that's how it is.

X11 has working implementations, while Wayland does not, and that is the issue I was describing. Shit, there's even relatively elegant implementations of X11 that sacrifice a bit of standards compatibility for smaller size and other nice things. My phone runs Wayland, tho.

I can't wait until fedora ships with the optional wayland implementation. This should drive things forward.

[QUOTE=kaukassus;45916511][url]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4MDg[/url] I hope wayland is ready soon.[/QUOTE] Oh boy another women's outreach program. Didn't they take notes from GNOME?

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;45922576]Oh boy another women's outreach program. Didn't they take notes from GNOME?[/QUOTE] [quote] assigned female at birth and anyone who identifies as a woman, genderqueer, genderfluid, or genderfree regardless of gender presentation or assigned sex at birth. [/quote] Why is this a thing? I never really checked, but I don't think that a compiler favors code from a specific gender. I suppose it's their way of trying to be relevant again. [editline]8th September 2014[/editline] I know some women in IT that think those kind of outreach programs are very insulting to them, as it implies that they need more help than men.

call it bullshit if you like but affirmative action has been around since the 60s and it works pretty well when you do it right i dunno if x are gonna manage it wrong like gnome did though

[QUOTE=mastersrp;45917369]Hey lavacano, you couldn't cook up a binary portage-ready glibc with USE="multilib" for me? I seem to have an issue with a pure64 glibc that won't allow multilib to exist. All I get is [code] #include <gnu/stubs-32.h> file not found [/code] Before that, I couldn't recompile glibc, because appearantly it was built on a 64bit only kernel and rebuilding it for multilib made it produce 32bit binaries that could not be run (despite both kernel and gcc being rebuild to support multilib and IA32 emulation).[/QUOTE] My glibc is already USE="multilib" so I just made a quickpkg. You'd have it by now, but my upload seems to have taken a nosedive for some reason. If I'm awake when it finishes in a while here, you'll have it soon. [editline]8th September 2014[/editline] [url=http://www.mediafire.com/download/e0l2v2vq06uj31e/glibc-2.19-r1.tbz2]Order up![/url] [code]sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1 was built with the following: USE="(multilib) -debug -gd (-hardened) -nscd -profile (-selinux) -suid -systemtap -vanilla" ABI_X86="64" CFLAGS="-pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing" CXXFLAGS="-pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing" [/code]

[QUOTE=lavacano;45922844]My glibc is already USE="multilib" so I just made a quickpkg. You'd have it by now, but my upload seems to have taken a nosedive for some reason. If I'm awake when it finishes in a while here, you'll have it soon. [editline]8th September 2014[/editline] [url=http://www.mediafire.com/download/e0l2v2vq06uj31e/glibc-2.19-r1.tbz2]Order up![/url] [code]sys-libs/glibc-2.19-r1 was built with the following: USE="(multilib) -debug -gd (-hardened) -nscd -profile (-selinux) -suid -systemtap -vanilla" ABI_X86="64" CFLAGS="-pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing" CXXFLAGS="-pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing" [/code][/QUOTE] Giving it a go as we speak. Attempting to now recompile gcc, and then the rest of the system. Hopefully good things will come from this, but I suppose the worst case is just to back up any changes I made (/etc/portage, maybe the world file too for easy reinstallation, and possibly my kernel .config), and reinstall as needed. Hopefully that won't be required now though, so thanks in advance!

It changed nothing unfortunately. Recompiled gcc with ABI_X86="32 64", and then attemped recompilation of glibc. Result: It dies at "sunrpc/cross-genrpc" which is a 32bit executable. Error: "File not found" Which would suggest that the file could not be run somehow, or that gcc wouldn't generate executable binaries. When attempting to compile a simple hello world C file with -m32, the output results in the same error as with glibc. Any help?

You've definitely enabled 32 bit support in your kernel yes? If so then I have absolutely no idea where to go from here except for "reinstall from stage3", which I'd rather not do if it can be helped.

[QUOTE=lavacano;45925483]You've definitely enabled 32 bit support in your kernel yes? If so then I have absolutely no idea where to go from here except for "reinstall from stage3", which I'd rather not do if it can be helped.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'd rather avoid that too. And yes, my .config file agrees to, and judging from the timestamp of the kernel in /boot, it agrees with that as well. I'm currently in #gentoo (and even #funtoo) trying to get some help, but I'm not really sure where to go from here. I'm slightly reluctant to reinstalling, but we'll see where this leads. I will of course post my results here, and what I ended up doing.

Everything I ever do is shit. Tried installing mint alongside windows 8, it finished installing but I have no options to boot into Linux or any evidence that it exists apart from some new partitions. I don't get it.

[QUOTE=Adamhully;45926372]Everything I ever do is shit. Tried installing mint alongside windows 8, it finished installing but I have no options to boot into Linux or any evidence that it exists apart from some new partitions. I don't get it.[/QUOTE] Did you install Windows after Linux mint?