General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

I get the same issue, Rayjingstorm

[QUOTE=Van-man;40729207][IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Skarmbillede_-_21-05-2013_-_21:03:00.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Garry's Mod beta is a separate app.

[QUOTE=danharibo;40735007]Garry's Mod beta is a separate app.[/QUOTE] How does one access it? Also [url]https://gist.github.com/flibitijibibo/5562395[/url]

[QUOTE=Jookia;40738617]How does one access it? Also [url]https://gist.github.com/flibitijibibo/5562395[/url][/QUOTE] You have to be invited, I don't think Garry has given any keys out for a while but you could try asking him directly.

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;40738306][url]http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.html[/url] I guess he can stop interjecting now.[/QUOTE] I doubt it'll ever get used as much as Linux, but there's a few situations where a modular microkernel approach can provide a bigger benefit than one big do-it-all kernel.

[QUOTE=Jookia;40738617]How does one access it? Also [url]https://gist.github.com/flibitijibibo/5562395[/url][/QUOTE] Have you actually got it running in Linux? I'm not up to the task at present, but I would be happy to know it is at least running [i]somewhere[/i] :v:

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;40739824]It doesn't even have USB support yet, it only just got SATA support last month.[/QUOTE] And it has been under development since 1990. As such, it's literally been developed for longer than Linux and yet it has so few features it's barely usable. That might be a result of the microkernel architecture - but MINIX works, and MINIX was written by one man. In a few years. During the development of Hurd, several versions of MINIX have been released. Basically the FSF people apparently have no idea of how to develop a kernel.

[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;40740050]Have you actually got it running in Linux? I'm not up to the task at present, but I would be happy to know it is at least running [i]somewhere[/i] :v:[/QUOTE] Yes and no. I've gotten it up to it crashing without doing all that, by using the -steam flag and some hacks. I think I'd just wait for it to come out on Steam (as long as it works that is). [QUOTE=danharibo;40739670]You have to be invited, I don't think Garry has given any keys out for a while but you could try asking him directly.[/QUOTE] [b]¯\_(ツ)_/¯[/b]

Gmod beta on steam: ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) Gmod beta on steam doesn't work: （╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] Wait, how could there be capitalization naming errors in the svn? Is garry actually able to run it on linux?

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;40738306][url]http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/news/2013-05-debian_gnu_hurd_2013.html[/url] I guess he can stop interjecting now.[/QUOTE] [quote=http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/advantages.html]The Hurd is built in a very modular fashion. Other Unix-like kernels (Linux, for example) are also modular in that they allow loading (and unloading) some components as kernel modules, but the Hurd goes one step further in that most of the components that constitute the whole kernel are running as separate user-space processes and are thus using different address spaces that are isolated from each other. This is a multi-server design based on a microkernel. [b]It is not possible that a faulty memory dereference inside the TCP/IP stack can bring down the whole kernel[/b], and thus the whole system, which is a real problem in a monolothic Unix kernel architecture.[/quote] alright i have to admit that's fucking cool even if i've never had that problem with the Linux kernel, I still have to admit I like that idea.

[QUOTE=lavacano;40741154]alright i have to admit that's fucking cool even if i've never had that problem with the Linux kernel, I still have to admit I like that idea.[/QUOTE] The only problem is that apparently there can be significant performance losses when large portions of the kernel are modular. If they ever get anywhere near done it might be nice though :v:

How do I run programs as root through x11 forwarding without having to [code]sudo cp ~/.Xauthority ~root/[/code] each time? It's so fucking annoying.

Is it a good idea to use the windows installer(wubi)? I just want to get a feel for linux and see if i like it, not really trying to become a full blown user yet.

[QUOTE=CeeLapse;40743982]Is it a good idea to use the windows installer(wubi)? I just want to get a feel for linux and see if i like it, not really trying to become a full blown user yet.[/QUOTE] Either virtualbox or just livecd

[QUOTE=CeeLapse;40743982]Is it a good idea to use the windows installer(wubi)? I just want to get a feel for linux and see if i like it, not really trying to become a full blown user yet.[/QUOTE] a live cd will do the trick and you can use it to install if you decide to keep it.

Garry's Mod Beta uploaded, but it's complaining that some "client library" could not be found..

[URL="http://www.pidora.ca/"]Fedora 18[/URL] for the raspberry pi is out. I've never used Fedora before, but the install went smoothly and it has a no frills xfce desktop that runs at a reasonable pace. I'm not interested in using it regularly, but I thought someone else might be.

Maybe I should get a Raspberry Pi, but I don't have a use for it other then "I want one."

[QUOTE=IpHa;40758609]Maybe I should get a Raspberry Pi, but I don't have a use for it other then "I want one."[/QUOTE] I had no use for it when I got it, but my school decided to let us use "Personal Electronic Devices" so I took all of my notes on it for the second semester, and it worked seamlessly.

What distros do you people recommend for daily use? I've tried Ubuntu and Mint so far, but it feels meh. Thinking of trying Arch, but heard that it's really hard to set up properly. Fedora looks beautiful so might try that. Other than that, is Arch really that hard to set up properly? And what thoughts do you people have on Fedora? Anything else which might suit for daily use? Photo edting, browsing the web obviously, music listening etc.

[QUOTE=PredGD;40760483]What distros do you people recommend for daily use? I've tried Ubuntu and Mint so far, but it feels meh. Thinking of trying Arch, but heard that it's really hard to set up properly. Fedora looks beautiful so might try that. Other than that, is Arch really that hard to set up properly? And what thoughts do you people have on Fedora? Anything else which might suit for daily use? Photo edting, browsing the web obviously, music listening etc.[/QUOTE] Arch is nothing like Fedora or Ubuntu and Mint. Ubuntu and the default Mint both use GNOME/Unity which are quite similar, it might be better to try a more interesting DE like KDE (which has every feature anybody would conceivably need) or a lightweight one like XFCE. Depending on what you want to do would change my recommendation. Though if you're looking to waste an evening, installing Arch Linux is [i]always[/i] fun. [editline]24th May 2013[/editline] As for software, I've heard people say Digikam is quite nice (and it has a K in it so it must be good). Web browsing is tolerable anywhere. I'm currently using Clementine for music and I must say it's pretty solid (Much better than Spotify which I was previously).

[QUOTE=danharibo;40760547]Arch is nothing like Fedora or Ubuntu and Mint. Ubuntu and the default Mint both use GNOME/Unity which are quite similar, it might be better to try a more interesting DE like KDE (which has every feature anybody would conceivably need) or a lightweight one like XFCE. Depending on what you want to do would change my recommendation. Though if you're looking to waste an evening, installing Arch Linux is [i]always[/i] fun.[/QUOTE] I love messing around with Linux, so wouldn't have anything against spending my evening on installing Arch. Don't really care that Arch is nothing like the others which I stated above. That's only a plus in my book. Kinda want to try something else so I thought that Arch could be suitable. I'm too afraid of installing it due to horror stories of people having to wipe their HDD because they messed up the bootloader and such. Is it really that easy to mess up though? I'm going to use it mainly for browsing the web really. Some photo editing here and there, perhaps some video editing as well. Music is really important, but Spotify handles that part. [editline]24th May 2013[/editline] Clementine? Is that a streaming service?

arch is great and there's a really good user guide for you to get it up and running on the wiki

Quick google and wow, looks like the dream music player. Streaming, radio, local, etc. Might give that a try.

[QUOTE=PredGD;40760600] Don't really care that Arch is nothing like the others which I stated above. That's only a plus in my book. Kinda want to try something else so I thought that Arch could be suitable. I'm too afraid of installing it due to horror stories of people having to wipe their HDD because they messed up the bootloader and such. Is it really that easy to mess up though? [/quote]Not if you follow the installation guide well. [QUOTE=PredGD;40760600] Clementine? Is that a streaming service?[/QUOTE] No, it's a music player with a bunch of plugins for stuff like online radio / spotify / grooveshark etc.

my automerge [editline]24th May 2013[/editline] again [editline]24th May 2013[/editline] Is there anything special I should know about Arch before installing it? I've heard that it really differs from all the other distros, but in what way? The customization options?

[QUOTE=PredGD;40760629]my automerge [editline]24th May 2013[/editline] again [editline]24th May 2013[/editline] Is there anything special I should know about Arch before installing it? I've heard that it really differs from all the other distros, but in what way? The customization options?[/QUOTE]Basically you start from the ground up, no desktop environment/window manager. Install what you want with it.

Sounds like I'm gonna have a lot of fun later. Too bad it's 4:27 AM here. I already want to install Arch but I just can't because I should sleep.

[QUOTE=IpHa;40758609]Maybe I should get a Raspberry Pi, but I don't have a use for it other then "I want one."[/QUOTE] Ordered a Raspberry Pi yesterday. I'm going to use it as a backup computer at work, replacing my old pentium3 full tower. this is going to be so awesome.

[QUOTE=kaukassus;40762432]Ordered a Raspberry Pi yesterday. I'm going to use it as a backup computer at work, replacing my old pentium3 full tower. this is going to be so awesome.[/QUOTE] Have you seen the video of Wayland running on the RPi (with some special backend for it's GPU), it was so smooth.