General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=esalaka;46132685]I use Arch and Gentoo shit [editline]2nd October 2014[/editline] I could use a Debian-based distro if apt-get wasn't so awful.[/QUOTE] Why change away? Arch and Gentoo are both fine. Arch I probably wouldn't use on a production server, but beyond that they're both great distributions.

What's wrong with apt-get?

[QUOTE=kaukassus;46131694][t]http://i.imgur.com/VRAziJG.jpg[/t] ? :v:[/QUOTE] I started on Ubuntu, played around a bit with Debian, Crunchbang, Fedora and Linux Mint. Then I jumped on Arch for a bit. Now I'm just running Debian. It checks out.

[QUOTE=nikomo;46133033]I started on Ubuntu, played around a bit with Debian, Crunchbang, Fedora and Linux Mint. Then I jumped on Arch for a bit. Now I'm just running Debian. It checks out.[/QUOTE] I went something like this Kubuntu -> Debian -> Ubuntu -> OpenSUSE -> Fedora -> Linux Mint -> Archlinux -> Gentoo -> CentOS -> Fedora

Arch is great for the way I use computers. I always like to have some tricks which speed up some processes.

Primary distro for me went Knoppix -> Ubuntu -> Slackware -> Ubuntu -> whatever i pulled out of a hat -> Gentoo i've experimented with several other distros on the side since Ubuntu phase 2 though and default to Debian nowadays when I [b]need[/b] binary packages for whatever reason

Two years ago I started with Ubuntu, then switched to Kubuntu fairly soon. Got Crunchbang when I felt like going a bit deeper, and then transitioned through Manjaro to Arch at the beginning of this year. Haven't reinstalled Arch yet on both my laptop and desktop, woo!

since 2006 i have been like suse -> some other distro that breaks -> suse etc.

Im just getting into using Linux, I have only been using it from a VPS though, have been running Debian. I literally have no idea how things work in the grand scheme of things here, I have been following guides for getting certain programs to work, like a MC server, mumble etc.... Are there are any decent resources out there for total newbies? I appreciate I can google this and get something, although everything I come across is either outdated or assumed prior knowledge, I would like something that you guys can recommend. EDIT What I am trying to do at the moment is get a owncloud server running, it sounds really cool and I see it as good challenge to get myself more experienced with command line linux, although I am hitting roadblocks at the moment, does anyone have experience with this?

For me it's been Ubuntu -> Debian -> Whatever gets the job done and makes me productive (Fedora for me)

I've tried every major distro under the sun, except RHEL. I just like Arch the most. It's everything I want, and nothing I don't. That, and they have the best wiki of all time. Even other distros can find useful info there. [editline]2nd October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ThePunisher1;46134619]Are there are any decent resources out there for total newbies? I appreciate I can google this and get something, although everything I come across is either outdated or assumed prior knowledge, I would like something that you guys can recommend. EDIT What I am trying to do at the moment is get a owncloud server running, it sounds really cool and I see it as good challenge to get myself more experienced with command line linux, although I am hitting roadblocks at the moment, does anyone have experience with this?[/QUOTE] Are there any specific problems you're having? It's easier to start with the small stuff.

[QUOTE=rilez;46135779]I've tried every major distro under the sun, except RHEL. I just like Arch the most. It's everything I want, and nothing I don't. That, and they have the best wiki of all time. Even other distros can find useful info there. [editline]2nd October 2014[/editline] Are there any specific problems you're having? It's easier to start with the small stuff.[/QUOTE] Regardless of distribution, I often look up information on the following distro wikis, in descending order: Arch, Gentoo, Funtoo. All of them have useful information, but wiki.archlinux.org is not yet beaten by anything at all, especially for troubleshooting.

After the mess that was celery/rabbitmq on windows for task queuing with python, having it work the first time on mint makes me a bit teary eyed. :smile: Having things like that [I][B]just work[/B] [/I] without any fuss is cathartic.

[QUOTE=Hng;46139518]After the mess that was celery/rabbitmq on windows for task queuing with python, having it work the first time on mint makes me a bit teary eyed. :smile: Having things like that [I][B]just work[/B] [/I] without any fuss is cathartic.[/QUOTE] For every thing that [I]just works[/I] on Linux there's 10 other things that require a ton of fiddling. Such is life.

Is there a working mame/ other emulator frontend avaliable with apt-get on debian?

I just got a second SSD so I decided to dual boot Windows 8 and Debian Jessie. I'm loving Debian so far and have never really used Linux as much as I have been for the past few days. I'm having this weird issue with my sound though when playing Dota 2. It runs completely fine, I'd say even better than Windows, but sometimes I get a high-pitched screeching sound for about 1 second every game. It scares the shit out of me every time. Anyone ever had something like that happen and know how to fix it? [QUOTE=mrgrim333;46144948]Is there a working mame/ other emulator frontend avaliable with apt-get on debian?[/QUOTE] [url]https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/mame[/url] [code]apt-get install mame[/code]

I went from Fedora -> Arch and played around with gentoo in a virtual machine before going back to arch due to the simplicity and power of the package manager and the minimalism of the system.

[QUOTE=BlackAwps;46145439]I just got a second SSD so I decided to dual boot Windows 8 and Debian Jessie. I'm loving Debian so far and have never really used Linux as much as I have been for the past few days. I'm having this weird issue with my sound though when playing Dota 2. It runs completely fine, I'd say even better than Windows, but sometimes I get a high-pitched screeching sound for about 1 second every game. It scares the shit out of me every time. Anyone ever had something like that happen and know how to fix it? [url]https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/mame[/url] [code]apt-get install mame[/code][/QUOTE] Does it happen whenever you get a queue? Dota 2 uses aplay to play the "queue found" sound and tries to display a notification. (Just in case you're alt-tabbed with Dota 2's sound off.) If aplay screws up it could just be playing static. You could also try running Steam with your native runtime, often fixes a few bugs like that: [url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/steam#Using_native_runtime[/url]

I've only had it happen while actually playing and seems to go off randomly when someone uses a spell. I'll try running steam natively and see how that goes.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;46148613]Does it happen whenever you get a queue? Dota 2 uses aplay to play the "queue found" sound and tries to display a notification. (Just in case you're alt-tabbed with Dota 2's sound off.) If aplay screws up it could just be playing static. [b]You could also try running Steam with your native runtime,[/b] often fixes a few bugs like that: [url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/steam#Using_native_runtime[/url][/QUOTE] I do this with a lot of games. Especially Valve ships things like libc++ and other crap, and I usually just mv it to {file}.bak, to force it to use my system library. Especially because it usually expects either no driver or proprietary drivers, when i'm actually using the open source drivers. They run the games just fine (Borderlands 2 which isn't a Valve game, doesn't ship crap, runs great), but only if I've removed any weird shipped files like that. I am using Funtoo as well, so that *could* be related, but whatevs.

I started with some veraion of SuSE, to Puppy and now I usually go between anything Ubuntu based and any semi-rolling distributions

Started with Ubuntu, used Arch for a long time, installed Gentoo, and now I use Fedora/Centos.

Anyone know how up to date Debian Testing is these days? I need to set up a Linux desktop again and I'm sick of the usual instabilities, but I also don't wanna lag behind upstream for ages.

Testing (jessie) is slightly out-of-date (GNOME 3.8 etc.), unstable (sid) is pretty up-to-date (GNOME 3.14, which is the latest release etc.) Also, jessie isn't covered by security updates right now, as far as I know, and sid just gets the new version that package upstream pushes out, which has security fixes, which is good. I have sid + jessie repos enabled on my laptop, it pulls the vast majority of packages from sid, but some packages haven't been updated since jessie was snapshotted, so they're not in sid.

Damn it I just started to like GNOME 3 and now KDE 5 actually looks not awful

[QUOTE=nikomo;46156758]some packages haven't been updated since jessie was snapshotted, so they're not in sid.[/QUOTE] Well that's a fucking mess.

[QUOTE=FPtje;46157021]Well that's a fucking mess.[/QUOTE] "How do we keep several repositories? Let's just branch out and never merge!"

I think they do it in order to keep the amount of storage taken by packages low. I don't recall symlinks being a good idea with the mirror system they have going on, so they'd have to have the same package under both sid and jessie. The only thing it really matters is that now you have to fetch package differentials for both sid and jessie, if you're running sid. Which, you know, muh kilobytes and performance. Whatever, takes like a few seconds of extra time.

sid represents bleeding edge. some packages on testing are more bleeding edge than the packages on bleeding edge. It's not about "muh kilobytes", it's about the principle of it being a mess.

Is anybody here experienced with GDB?